Trump is a Clinton shill !?

[Jhhnn]

A recent Gallup study verifies that actual economics (employment/wage) isn't the major driver behind trump support even it if it's self-reported as important, the other main self-reported factor being racial anxiety.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2822059

Previous studies also place ethnic resentment as by far the leading differentiator between support for the two parties. Some I would joke about age, but really politics comes down to race in this country. People don't like to admit it, each for their own reasons; conservatives for the obvious ones, but also many centrists/liberals because it's also in their interest to portray a post-racial society.

The issue isn't to portray a post racial society but rather to achieve one & to lead by example.

 

[agent00f]

I see it more as the socially liberal leaning elite sweeping the undercurrent of racism beneath the rug. Not that it's bad thing for kids to see less racism in public, but it is what is what is.

 

[TeeJay1952]

Walt Kelly had his Pogo character say "We have met the enemy and he is us."

Until we realize that not every opinion is equal, that they must pass a Constitutional vetting in America.

We must hold those ideas that we find repugnant to the light of day.

A wall.
Religious Litmus Test
Secret plans to make America winners (Like we aren't already!)
Change Libel Laws because Trump's feelings are hurt.

Enough!!!!!!!

 

[Jaskalas]

The issue isn't to portray a post racial society but rather to achieve one & to lead by example.

With a history of segregation and ethnic neighborhoods, we face disparities and racial issues. It's not racist for #BLM to want protection from police abuse, but there are violent / racist agitators such as the Dallas shooter. An entire side to a real issue gets painted with a broad brush and slandered as racist. Glossing over the real issues makes it difficult to come together to solve them. And while the issue persists there remains room for further agitators to divide us.

We cannot move forward when real issues languish under the false pretenses of something they're not. For both sides of our political coin.

 

[TheGardener]

I could explore this angle in more depth, but I'll skip to some other fundamentals. Do these "disenfranchised" think that Dubya and Dick did the right thing with the extra war in Iraq? Are they upset at even the suspicion that Dubya was a big mistake? Did they even care whether Halliburton profited from a sole-source contract arising from unwarranted influence by Halliburton?

You raise a valid point. There were a lot of people caught up in the anger resulting from the attack on New York and the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania in 2001. A lot of politicians in both parties went along with Bush. Did they do it because they believed he was right, or because they were afraid of not being reelected or to damage their ambitions of future elections? So Bernie Sanders was one of the few who stood up and said he would not vote to fund the invasion of Iraq. But like many people, almost all politicians publicly backed Bush in the beginning. Hillary Clinton did. John Kerry did. These are facts. In your statement, you are trying to show that the disenfranchised were wrong about Bush. I have to counter that a lot of grassroots people were. With the exception of Sanders, did any politician who opposed Bush get reelected? Maybe, but I didn't follow that. For the record, I was opposed to the invasion for what it is worth.

Thus, they questioned not only his birth-certificate, but his college grades. The assumption: He couldn't have really "earned" his way -- because he's black.

Well you stepped right into here. Go back to 2008. It was Hillary Clinton's campaign that first brought up the 'birther' issue. Yes, conservatives carried the ball afterward. So since you raised the race card, I can only assume from your statement, that you are inferring the Clinton is racist. Well I don't really expect you to double down and admit that. But since you brought up the race card, I'll also remind you that it was Clinton's campaign that released that video of Rev. Wright. Peoples memories are so short, aren't they?

 

[trenchfoot]

IMO, Trump basically hijacked the base of the GOP away from the RNC by turning up the volume, the intensity and the insanity that the RNC was propagandizing them with. That pretty much set up a hotly expanding vortex that sucked in enough of the remainder of the party to give Trump the win over the other Repub runners that were sadly lacking in this regard.

They simply couldn't out-trump the Trump.

Now comes Trump the Usurper, who must somehow keep his converts in tow while convincing those that are diametrically opposed to his gaggle of newly found Tea Party converts to join him in his quest for installing a huge blinking neon lit "Trump" sign over the White House front doors.

Methinks the Teller of Fairy Tales wings are losing feathers much faster than he can grow new ones.

I'm now waiting to see how Trump learns to fly while flapping his arms on his way down from the heavens.

 

[TheGardener]

Trump didn't hijack anything. Grassroots were looking for a candidate to represent their issues and concerns. Clearly with all the votes Trump received, the people didn't find what they were looking for in Cruz, Rubio or Bush.

 

[BrainEater]

It's a nice plot for a satire....

And it's sad that this election cycle at first glance looks just like like a satire movie plot....

We are on the same page.
The whole thing looks like a bad movie plot , 100%

I'm seriously just waiting for the shitty twist !

eeeep.

 

[ivwshane]

You raise a valid point. There were a lot of people caught up in the anger resulting from the attack on New York and the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania in 2001. A lot of politicians in both parties went along with Bush. Did they do it because they believed he was right, or because they were afraid of not being reelected or to damage their ambitions of future elections? So Bernie Sanders was one of the few who stood up and said he would not vote to fund the invasion of Iraq. But like many people, almost all politicians publicly backed Bush in the beginning. Hillary Clinton did. John Kerry did. These are facts. In your statement, you are trying to show that the disenfranchised were wrong about Bush. I have to counter that a lot of grassroots people were. With the exception of Sanders, did any politician who opposed Bush get reelected? Maybe, but I didn't follow that. For the record, I was opposed to the invasion for what it is worth.


Well you stepped right into here. Go back to 2008. It was Hillary Clinton's campaign that first brought up the 'birther' issue. Yes, conservatives carried the ball afterward. So since you raised the race card, I can only assume from your statement, that you are inferring the Clinton is racist. Well I don't really expect you to double down and admit that. But since you brought up the race card, I'll also remind you that it was Clinton's campaign that released that video of Rev. Wright. Peoples memories are so short, aren't they?

I'm not aware of the video you are talking about but you are wrong about the birther claim. It wasn't Clinton's campaign that started that.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

 

[ivwshane]

A recent Gallup study verifies that actual economics (employment/wage) isn't the major driver behind trump support even it if it's self-reported as important, the other main self-reported factor being racial anxiety.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2822059

Previous studies also place ethnic resentment as by far the leading differentiator between support for the two parties. Some I would joke about age, but really politics comes down to race in this country. People don't like to admit it, each for their own reasons; conservatives for the obvious ones, but also many centrists/liberals because it's also in their interest to portray a post-racial society.

So white victimhood.

This hashtag describes trump and his supporters to a tee.
#whineylittlebitch

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I'm not aware of the video you are talking about but you are wrong about the birther claim. It wasn't Clinton's campaign that started that.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

drumpf lie? get the fuck out of town!!! That's unpossible, he's got the best brain, uses the best words. and many people are saying....

 

[agent00f]

Trump didn't hijack anything. Grassroots were looking for a candidate to represent their issues and concerns. Clearly with all the votes Trump received, the people didn't find what they were looking for in Cruz, Rubio or Bush.

Yes, to put it succinctly trump basically kicked over a rock and these were the people living under it all this time. Their issues/concerns are racial resentment and the corresponding idea that minorities/foreigners took all the good jobs.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump didn't hijack anything. Grassroots were looking for a candidate to represent their issues and concerns. Clearly with all the votes Trump received, the people didn't find what they were looking for in Cruz, Rubio or Bush.

They were looking for a way to spit in the eye of their own leadership & the rest of America as well.

 

[BrainEater]

I still think I'm correct sorta ....I'm really not sure who is playing who at this point.
This can't be real.
I think maybe the shill is all of us.

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Listen.

I heard a voice last night.
It told me that Earth is going to be decimated by Alien invaders in 5 years .
I Think all the 1 % 'ers , should build spaceships and flee.Get out while you can.

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haha

 

[Jhhnn]

It was Hillary Clinton's campaign that first brought up the 'birther' issue.

False. Birtherism first came up in a post at... get ready for it... Free Republic. Some of Hillary's supporters circulated an email to that effect but the campaign apparently had nothing to do with it.

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-started-birther-movement/