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UglyCasanova

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Anyone watching? Thoughts?

I just tuned in a bit ago, his response on torture seemed stupid and not the direction the US should be taking but when asking what keeps him up at night I like his response on the economy as the common man. So bizarre that a billionaire from New York is the candidate that genuinely seems to care about the common man but these are crazy times. I don't believe him on a lot of things but I do think he cares about the economic struggles of everyday Americans.
 
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UglyCasanova said:
Anyone watching? Thoughts?

I just tuned in a bit ago, his response on torture seemed stupid and not the direction the US should be taking but when asking what keeps him up at night I like his response on the economy as the common man. So bizarre that a billionaire from New York is the candidate that genuinely seems to care about the common man but these are crazy times. I don't believe him on a lot of things but I do think he cares about the economic struggles of everyday Americans.
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Unless he owes the common man money... Then... Not so much.
 
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LoL, I was going to say. He doesn't even want to pay people that do work for him.
 
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I get the critique but I think he does care. Whether he does more good than harm remains to be seen but his run for presidency at least to me seemed to be a genuine desire to do good for the country, I got the same feeling from Rand Paul and Bernie. Wish to god Paul was the one in the Oval Office but this is life.
 
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Wow, I thought I was watching SNL but it's really Trump talking like Alec Baldwin. It's sad and hilarious at the same time.
 
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I like Paul and Bernie as well but it's mind boggling to me how anyone can think Trump is in that category. He's so full of shit it's bubbling up through his skin and turning it orange. Trump doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself and if he cared about the country he wouldn't be wasting your and my tax dollars investigating nonexistent voter fraud in a pathetic attempt to satisfy his ego. He also wouldn't be a lying scumbag singlehandedly reducing America's standing in the world.

The guy is like a dumber and more fragile version of that evil bastard from V for Vendetta.
 
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UglyCasanova said:
I get the critique but I think he does care. Whether he does more good than harm remains to be seen but his run for presidency at least to me seemed to be a genuine desire to do good for the country, I got the same feeling from Rand Paul and Bernie. Wish to god Paul was the one in the Oval Office but this is life.
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When asked about the 1 million+ women that showed up why cant he just say 'Listen, let it be known that I apologize for not making it clear that I am going to hold it down for all the women. I hear you, and you will be protected.'

Or some shit lol if I was his adviser that whole day would have went different. He could have turned a huge L into a huge W by just going out there and saying something like that. Then order papa johns.com. It would have been great.
 
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repoman0 said:
I like Paul and Bernie as well but it's mind boggling to me how anyone can think Trump is in that category. He's so full of shit it's bubbling up through his skin and turning it orange. Trump doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself and if he cared about the country he wouldn't be wasting your and my tax dollars investigating nonexistent voter fraud in a pathetic attempt to satisfy his ego. He also wouldn't be a lying scumbag singlehandedly reducing America's standing in the world.

The guy is like a dumber and more fragile version of that evil bastard from V for Vendetta.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. He's a very unconventional president that's for damned sure, but that's what the country was craving. Clinton was the paradigm of establishment and more of the same which voters soundly rejected. I wish him the best and hope he succeeds both in draining the swamp and more importantly making America great (again).
 
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UglyCasanova said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. He's a very unconventional president that's for damned sure, but that's what the country was craving. Clinton was the paradigm of establishment and more of the same which voters soundly rejected. I wish him the best and hope he succeeds both in draining the swamp and more importantly making America great (again).
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Soundly rejected? Are you stupid? Clinton won the popular vote, Trump won the EC. Not sure what rock you've been dwelling under.

I didn't have an instinctive evisceral hatred of Trump and I daresay I hoped holding the office of President would change him. But when Sean Spicer went in front of the press corps and blatantly lied about the size of an inauguration crowd, my head snapped back to reality. I got PTSD flashbacks to the Bush days.

Trump is a narcissistic, temperamental crony capitalist. His concern for American workers is evident in his business dealings. I think he is acting as President so his supporters fawn over him and boost his ego.
 
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UglyCasanova said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. He's a very unconventional president that's for damned sure, but that's what the country was craving. Clinton was the paradigm of establishment and more of the same which voters soundly rejected. I wish him the best and hope he succeeds both in draining the swamp and more importantly making America great (again).
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Last I looked it was Trump that was soundly rejected by voters. You can't lose my 3M votes, then claim to have some type of mandate from the population. Yes, he won with the archaic rules of the EC, but that does not mean that the majority of voters accepted his ideals.

Although I don't personally care for Hillary, she would've been a fine president and was less likely to seriously screw stuff up by orders of magnitude. And the majority of voters in this country agreed that Hillary should've been the president.
 
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UglyCasanova said:
DJIA hit 20k today, must be some stuff he's not screwing up no?
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Nice diversion from the topic at hand...

He has been in office less than a week, what policies exactly did he enact that effected the Dow today? Especially considering much of that gain was due to 4th quarter results from Boeing on aircraft sold 3-5 years ago. And he is against trade deals and the import-export bank that significantly help Boeing.
 
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UglyCasanova said:
DJIA hit 20k today, must be some stuff he's not screwing up no?
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Wow. How long has he been President? And what has he done so far? Let me guess, you believe when he says that there was 3-5 million illegal votes all against him? And believe he's going to get Mexico to pay for the wall?
 
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Zorba said:
Nice diversion from the topic at hand...

He has been in office less than a week, what policies exactly did he enact that effected the Dow today? Especially considering much of that gain was due to 4th quarter results from Boeing on aircraft sold 3-5 years ago. And he is against trade deals and the import-export bank that significantly help Boeing.
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Stock price is based off expectations of future earnings. Trump came in and started doing what he said he'd do. The market believes he is going to cut regulations and red tape therefore increasing profitability. The Trump effect ever since his election has been based on this, and exacerbated over the last several days as he's actually shown it wasn't just talk (which was still an unknown because he is Trump).
 
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Aharami said:
Gas hits record lows, the stock market comes back from the brink of collapse, unemployment at the lowest it's been in years, yadda yadda yadda...
Obama's a failure

Stock market at 20K within 1 week of Trump's office
Trump is a resounding success.


seriously!
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Attributing the economy to one person is a bit silly, even the president, but Trump has had an effect. The price of stocks is based on the present value of future earnings. Plenty of companies think their earning potential got a little brighter.

Gas prices being down isn't a good thing (not this low anyways), but that's a result of OPEC flooding the markets -although I think they've finally backed off. There's just too much supply.

I never said Obama was a failure. I voted for him in 08 and 12 and he has disappointed me on plenty of things, but overall he's been a good president imo.
 
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Capt Caveman said:
Wow. How long has he been President? And what has he done so far? Let me guess, you believe when he says that there was 3-5 million illegal votes all against him? And believe he's going to get Mexico to pay for the wall?
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No, when he says there were 3-4 million illegal votes against him that's just Trump being Trump, same with his childish focus on inauguration numbers. I have no doubt that there were illegals who did vote but the impact I'm sure was completely negligible.

And Mexico isn't going to pay for the wall, and if the US attempts to go after it through tariffs like plenty keep spouting it will spark a US/Mexico trade war where it costs us several times what the wall would on its own. I don't support the wall for what it's worth, it seems like a waste of money and resources. Immigration does need to be enforced and the border secured, but there are cheaper, more effective methods.


Not everything need be black/white, left/right. You don't have to constantly attack someone for having an opinion.
 
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