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Trump heads to the bunker

blackangst1 said:
You do know its not his choice when he gets whisked away, right?
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It is absolutely his choice, he could say no I am not leaving.

In case you miss my nija edit @blackangst1
I wouldn't apply this to any other President atm. Only reason it is applied to President Trump is he acts like the bravest, toughest President ever and he would never let a moment like this slide for Hillary, or Joe or Obama or GWB and so on.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
It is absolutely his choice, he could say no I am not leaving.

In case you miss my nija edit @blackangst1
I wouldn't apply this to any other President atm. Only reason it is applied to President Trump is he acts like the bravest, toughest President ever and he would never let a moment like this slide for Hillary, or Joe or Obama or GWB and so on.
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Are you sure about that?

apnews.com

Trump took shelter in White House bunker as protests raged

WASHINGTON (AP) — Secret Service agents rushed President Donald Trump to a White House bunker on Friday night as hundreds of protesters gathered outside the executive mansion, some of them throwing rocks and tugging at police barricades.
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Secret Service agents rushed President Donald Trump to a White House bunker

The abrupt decision by the agents
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According to 18 U.S.C. 3056, the U.S. Secret Service has the total support of the federal law to regulate the protection of the President of the United States. The President is like the rest of us, he is (technically) required to be obedient to the law of the land.
 
blackangst1 said:
Are you sure about that?

apnews.com

Trump took shelter in White House bunker as protests raged

WASHINGTON (AP) — Secret Service agents rushed President Donald Trump to a White House bunker on Friday night as hundreds of protesters gathered outside the executive mansion, some of them throwing rocks and tugging at police barricades.
apnews.com apnews.com


According to 18 U.S.C. 3056, the U.S. Secret Service has the total support of the federal law to regulate the protection of the President of the United States. The President is like the rest of us, he is (technically) required to be obedient to the law of the land.
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He could say no, this has been covered.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
He could say no, this has been covered.
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My point is, its not his decision when called to the bunker. I know alot of people thinks he's stupid, but I dount he would refuse a secret service decision without an explanation. In this case today, he's not going to say "hey tell me about the situation" while in the middle of a press meeting. Ultimately its not his decision, and if he ever refuses, he breaks the law (in before Trump doesnt care about the law.). A quick Google search shows no president has refused. I dont think even Trump is that dumb. He knows, and has said so, that he fears his safety, and knows theres alot of people, some very wealthy, who wish him harm. As you know, he's always about self preservation. So sure....he could, but he wouldnt.
 
Obviously I’m not a Trumpity Dumpity supporter. He does get some unfair attacks. Like he has no choice in this matter. He could have been dragged away if SS wanted to. With this being said, the other bunker incident, if he didn’t have to be so macho, he could have just said it’s protocol and ignored media calling him a chicken and make up a story. Like hide behind Melania and Baron.
 
blackangst1 said:
My point is, its not his decision when called to the bunker. I know alot of people thinks he's stupid, but I dount he would refuse a secret service decision without an explanation. In this case today, he's not going to say "hey tell me about the situation" while in the middle of a press meeting. Ultimately its not his decision, and if he ever refuses, he breaks the law (in before Trump doesnt care about the law.). A quick Google search shows no president has refused. I dont think even Trump is that dumb. He knows, and has said so, that he fears his safety, and knows theres alot of people, some very wealthy, who wish him harm. As you know, he's always about self preservation. So sure....he could, but he wouldnt.
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He has no problem putting others at risk with his "stock market first" COVID response. He defies those advisors. If he's demanding others to die for his pocketbook and reelection he could defy his secret service advisors. He's a coward.
 
SmCaudata said:
He has no problem putting others at risk with his "stock market first" COVID response. He defies those advisors. If he's demanding others to die for his pocketbook and reelection he could defy his secret service advisors. He's a coward.
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Nothing to see here, the SS is trained to respond to any possible threat and this was their reaction. Not too worry, has Trump one more than one 24 hr news cycle without something coming up?
 
blackangst1 said:
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Hypocrite.... thats the word you were looking for.

You clearly said he it wasn't his choice. He was just following the advice of secret service. I gave an example of when he doesn't feel the need to follow the advice of his experts. My logic was sound. You can deflect all you want.
 
SmCaudata said:
Hypocrite.... thats the word you were looking for.

You clearly said he it wasn't his choice. He was just following the advice of secret service. I gave an example of when he doesn't feel the need to follow the advice of his experts. My logic was sound. You can deflect all you want.
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Sorry but your whole market shit was a red herring and nothing to do with the topic. And legally, it is NOT his choice. I already provided the statute.
 
blackangst1 said:
My point is, its not his decision when called to the bunker. I know alot of people thinks he's stupid, but I dount he would refuse a secret service decision without an explanation. In this case today, he's not going to say "hey tell me about the situation" while in the middle of a press meeting. Ultimately its not his decision, and if he ever refuses, he breaks the law (in before Trump doesnt care about the law.). A quick Google search shows no president has refused. I dont think even Trump is that dumb. He knows, and has said so, that he fears his safety, and knows theres alot of people, some very wealthy, who wish him harm. As you know, he's always about self preservation. So sure....he could, but he wouldnt.
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The problem I have with the first bunker incident is that instead of telling the truth that it was SS standard protocol for any president when danger is/could be close he lied and said he went down to the bunker for an inspection.
 
That pussy has probably never been without protection in the form of private bodyguards, cops, and secret service in probably 50 years. He likely ran from fights in school, and would wet himself if he had to walk down a street unprotected, even without the notoriety of being president.
 
MtnMan said:
That pussy has probably never been without protection in the form of private bodyguards, cops, and secret service in probably 50 years. He likely ran from fights in school, and would wet himself if he had to walk down a street unprotected, even without the notoriety of being president.
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He only cuts them loose when he's working on his next pee tape.
 
eelw said:
Obviously I’m not a Trumpity Dumpity supporter. He does get some unfair attacks. Like he has no choice in this matter. He could have been dragged away if SS wanted to. With this being said, the other bunker incident, if he didn’t have to be so macho, he could have just said it’s protocol and ignored media calling him a chicken and make up a story. Like hide behind Melania and Baron.
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All presidents get unfairly attacked... remember the tan suit fiasco. Trump deserves 99.999999999999999999999999999999% of the flack he gets. His response to the criticism is also highly abnormal.
 
I want to debunk this the President is required to do what the Secret Service asks.
He is not required to do anything. He is the boss of all bosses regarding government. He can say no.
Regarding this issue he could have said no or set a standard that I don’t want to be bothered unless it is a near and immediate threat.

Also for clarity as I said earlier President Trump only gets this applied to him since he has stated he his the greatest/bravest President (likely in history but President Trump is hard to understand) also we absolutely all know he would be throwing insults at any other President for doing what he did.
All other Presidents have been less grandiose about their physical fitness and bravery.
 
Trump should be on the horn thanking President Obama for those bunker renovations that took place on his watch. All Don has to do is run downstairs and enjoy them.
 
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