Trump disrespects the flag and veterans

[Jhhnn]

You're wrong, reveille is sounded at sundown AND at sunrise. At least it is in England and the US.

It's all right there in the OP's link...

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Anything that doesn't count is a refuge for those who cannot argue.

A flag is a flag is a flag, or are you arguing that some flags are not equal to other flags? Is that what it has come to to excuse the grand retard?

You need to learn proper protocol.

 

[1sikbITCH]

"Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, he's fired. He's fired!"

 

[Londo_Jowo]

It's all right there in the OP's link...

Reveille is not sounded at sundown. Taps is sounded and the flag is lowered at that time. Those who are in the vicinity should face the flag being lowered and stand at attention (salute if in uniform). This protocol does not pertain to flags inside buildings or covered areas. A flag like is seen in the video does not meet the requirements.

Not if you want find something to go after Trump at least make sure you're not being as big an idiot as he can be. .

 

[Jhhnn]

Reveille is not sounded at sundown. Taps is sounded and the flag is lowered at that time. Those who are in the vicinity should face the flag being lowered and stand at attention (salute if in uniform). This protocol does not pertain to flags inside buildings or covered areas. A flag like is seen in the video does not meet the requirements.

Not if you want find something to go after Trump at least make sure you're not being as big an idiot as he can be. .

Excuse me, but the bugle call in question is "retreat" & the associated protocols laid out in the OP's link.

If you have anything more authoritative, please post it.

 

[J.Wilkins]

Reveille is not sounded at sundown. Taps is sounded and the flag is lowered at that time. Those who are in the vicinity should face the flag being lowered and stand at attention (salute if in uniform). This protocol does not pertain to flags inside buildings or covered areas. A flag like is seen in the video does not meet the requirements.

Not if you want find something to go after Trump at least make sure you're not being as big an idiot as he can be. .

Even if this was the case, you stand at attention either way.

For the president, he is always on the job and he's the CIC, the highest ranking position there is.

But you would defend him if he shat on your face while pissing on your mum.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Even if this was the case, you stand at attention either way.

For the president, he is always on the job and he's the CIC, the highest ranking position there is.

But you would defend him if he shat on your face while pissing on your mum.

Obviously you didn't watch the video, it's indoors therefore none of the military members and/or their families in attendance turned and faced the flag in the background when retreat was sounded. Guess they were disrespecting the flag and themselves.

Glad to see you're just as pigheaded as Trump. Two peas in a pod.

 

[J.Wilkins]

Obviously you didn't watch the video, it's indoors therefore none of the military members and/or their families in attendance turned and faced the flag in the background when retreat was sounded. Guess they were disrespecting the flag and themselves.

Glad to see you're just as pigheaded as Trump. Two peas in a pod.

Well no, I couldn't watch the video and can't watch the video from where I'm at and not for another four months.

I was going by what others were saying which if accurate would show him to be a daft kent...

If others reporting on his behaviour was wrong then perhaps you should have mentioned that instead?

To me, it would not be unexpected at all, he'd sacrifice every troop to make himself feel good or look good, he is not a leader but rather a little punk that needs a smacking on the arse.

Or a piss on the face by some Ruski hooker. 😉

 

[Younigue]

Reveille is not sounded at sundown. Taps is sounded and the flag is lowered at that time. Those who are in the vicinity should face the flag being lowered and stand at attention (salute if in uniform). This protocol does not pertain to flags inside buildings or covered areas. A flag like is seen in the video does not meet the requirements.

Not if you want find something to go after Trump at least make sure you're not being as big an idiot as he can be. .

Well, at least your argument doesn't in any way suggest Trump knows anything about anything or suggest that he in fact does respect the flag, America or Americans. Everyone (with even a modicum of intelligence) knows he does not. Stick to it man, fighting a fight you can possibly win.

 

[Younigue]

Well no, I couldn't watch the video and can't watch the video from where I'm at and not for another four months.

I was going by what others were saying which if accurate would show him to be a daft kent...

If others reporting on his behaviour was wrong then perhaps you should have mentioned that instead?

To me, it would not be unexpected at all, he'd sacrifice every troop to make himself feel good or look good, he is not a leader but rather a little punk that needs a smacking on the arse.

Or a piss on the face by some Ruski hooker. 😉

Those are two vastly different things. He might feel scolded by the ass whack (probably not) but the pissing... He would consider it a reward for all his good (evil) works. I would never wish upon him anything that would give him pleasure (fetishized or not). He may pout all he likes but it actually pleases me to know that he is absolutely miserable in this position he sold his rotten soul for.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Retreat is the bugle call associated with lowering of the colors. It differs from base to base at the discretion of the commanding officer, but the general sequence is:

Retreat bugle call
Cannon
Playing of "To the Colors" and retire the flag

Some bases don't have a live bugler, some don't have a cannon and some have neither and use a PA system.

The general procedure is that if outdoors when you hear retreat, you stop to face the flag at attention and present arms for the lowering of the flag.

If Trump was indoors he did nothing wrong. However, I am willing to assume he is completely ignorant of the tradition and would disrespect it regardless.

Edit: he was in a hanger. Enclosed open spaces often cause confusion such as hangers and motor pools. In those instances most choose to pay the appropriate respects. Either way, Trump's comments are shameful and an embarrassment.

 

[Jhhnn]

Obviously you didn't watch the video, it's indoors therefore none of the military members and/or their families in attendance turned and faced the flag in the background when retreat was sounded. Guess they were disrespecting the flag and themselves.

Glad to see you're just as pigheaded as Trump. Two peas in a pod.

That's not true. Watch for the equipment in the wet parking lot in the upper part of the frame as the video ends... it's obviously outdoors.

But they were obviously playing retreat for the Israelis, so it doesn't matter.

 

[Jhhnn]

Retreat is the bugle call associated with lowering of the colors. It differs from base to base at the discretion of the commanding officer, but the general sequence is:

Retreat bugle call
Cannon
Playing of "To the Colors" and retire the flag

Some bases don't have a live bugler, some don't have a cannon and some have neither and use a PA system.

The general procedure is that if outdoors when you hear retreat, you stop to face the flag at attention and present arms for the lowering of the flag.

If Trump was indoors he did nothing wrong. However, I am willing to assume he is completely ignorant of the tradition and would disrespect it regardless.

Edit: he was in a hanger. Enclosed open spaces often cause confusion such as hangers and motor pools. In those instances most choose to pay the appropriate respects. Either way, Trump's comments are shameful and an embarrassment.

Trumpism is a giant boil on Uncle Sam's ass. It remains to see if the purulence will erupt or go septic.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

That's not true. Watch for the equipment in the wet parking lot in the upper part of the frame as the video ends... it's obviously outdoors.

But they were obviously playing retreat for the Israelis, so it doesn't matter.

It was in a covered area which is not considered outdoors

 

[Jhhnn]

It was in a covered area which is not considered outdoors

It was for the Israelis, anyway. Or maybe the toddler in chief had absolutely no idea what it meant or who it was for.

Or maybe Trumpism is a disease of the mind.

 

[Younigue]

It was for the Israelis, anyway. Or maybe the toddler in chief had absolutely no idea what it meant or who it was for.

Or maybe Trumpism is a disease of the mind.

Definitely a disease. The symptoms were there, sure. But Trump is creating the perfect conditions for it to grow and thrive. The stench is horrendous!

 

[Jhhnn]

Definitely a disease. The symptoms were there, sure. But Trump is creating the perfect conditions for it to grow and thrive. The stench is horrendous!

Right wing propagandists have been crazifying the Repub base for decades. Trump saw it for what it is & exploited them further. Grabbed 'em by the pussy & they swooned into his arms.

 

[Younigue]

Right wing propagandists have been crazifying the Repub base for decades. Trump saw it for what it is & exploited them further. Grabbed 'em by the pussy & they swooned into his arms.

They can't even blame the vapors, only their own stupidity and ugliness.

 

[HomerJS]

It was in a covered area which is not considered outdoors

I'm at Fort Meade often. Whatever its called it happens daily at 5p. Soldiers outside stop and stand at attention. I've also been inside at this time and they didn't.

Just anecdotal.

Having said that Trump, his guests and the NFL disrespect the flag based on the laws dictating how the flag is to be displayed and worn. Trump also has disparaged soldiers, generals and said nothing about the 4 soldiers recently killed. He also disrespected a symbol of the country, the White House calling it a Venezuelan prison. He is President Hypocrite

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I'm at Fort Meade often. Whatever its called it happens daily at 5p. Soldiers outside stop and stand at attention. I've also been inside at this time and they didn't.

Just anecdotal.

Having said that Trump, his guests and the NFL disrespect the flag based on the laws dictating how the flag is to be displayed and worn. Trump also has disparaged soldiers, generals and said nothing about the 4 soldiers recently killed. He also disrespected a symbol of the country, the White House calling it a Venezuelan prison. He is President Hypocrite

No doubt there is plenty to call out Trump on when it comes to service personnel, veterans, and not upholding his oath to protect and defend the Constitution. What's contained in the OP not so much.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Trump disrespecting others? Yea right, he's a champion of the common folk.

 

[Zorba]

No doubt there is plenty to call out Trump on when it comes to service personnel, veterans, and not upholding his oath to protect and defend the Constitution. What's contained in the OP not so much.

No one would say anything about it if he wasn't whining about the NFL. I seriously doubt many liberals truly care about this beyond the hypocrisy.

I work across the street from an air force base, when retreat starts everyone stops in our parking lot, even people in cars. On base they close all of the gates and car are supposed to pull over on the side of the road. It is sort of a big deal. On our base they play the Star Spangled Banner over a base wide PA for retreat.

Edit: Don't forget all of his ignorant/hypocrite supporters that just kept cheering him on. None of them turned to look at the flag. I am sure everyone of them hate the kneeling NFL players though.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

No one would say anything about it if he wasn't whining about the NFL. I seriously doubt many liberals truly care about this beyond the hypocrisy.

I work across the street from an air force base, when retreat starts everyone stops in our parking lot, even people in cars. On base they close all of the gates and car are supposed to pull over on the side of the road. It is sort of a big deal. On our base they play the Star Spangled Banner over a base wide PA for retreat.

Edit: Don't forget all of his ignorant/hypocrite supporters that just kept cheering him on. None of them turned to look at the flag. I am sure everyone of them hate the kneeling NFL players though.

Understand the hypocrisy however, in this case with it being either in a hanger or covered area the normal protocol seen outside does not pertain. The people in attendance were not required to stop and face the flag during retreat.

No doubt Trump is using his outrage over the kneeling during the National Anthem to keep his base stirred up. He will need them to maintain Republican control of the Congress/Senate.

 

[HomerJS]

No one would say anything about it if he wasn't whining about the NFL. I seriously doubt many liberals truly care about this beyond the hypocrisy.

I work across the street from an air force base, when retreat starts everyone stops in our parking lot, even people in cars. On base they close all of the gates and car are supposed to pull over on the side of the road. It is sort of a big deal. On our base they play the Star Spangled Banner over a base wide PA for retreat.

Edit: Don't forget all of his ignorant/hypocrite supporters that just kept cheering him on. None of them turned to look at the flag. I am sure everyone of them hate the kneeling NFL players though.

I care about it because the hypocrisy dovetails with his racism. No matter how black people protest people like him always criticize. Being black I took it personally that he gets to refer to black players mothers as bitches and gets away with it.

 

[Zorba]

Understand the hypocrisy however, in this case with it being either in a hanger or covered area the normal protocol seen outside does not pertain. The people in attendance were not required to stop and face the flag during retreat.

No doubt Trump is using his outrage over the kneeling during the National Anthem to keep his base stirred up. He will need them to maintain Republican control of the Congress/Senate.

Even if protocol isn't to stop and look at the flag, what he said was still disrespectful. Plus if you are leading a campaign of doing nothing to so disrespect to a flag, maybe you should stand for retreat even if you are technically covered. Just like all the Trump supporters in Oklahoma that will happily yell "Home of the Sooners" over the end of the Anthem and carry around American Flags with OU where the stars go.