Trump calls off North Korea talks

[zinfamous]

This is a rather limp attempt to distract from his very real law-like problems right now.

I mean, even for Trump.

 

[zinfamous]

So the fuck what? We've been talking to NK for 50 years and have not made a single bit of progress. It's saber-rattling and posturing and nothing would come of whatever meetings did get held. Kudos to Trump for understanding it better than the usual suspects here. It's a sad state of affairs if Trump understands something better than you and he can grasp the concept of futility. The rest of you need to work on it.

LoL. Trump gave up everything we could possibly give up, including legitimizing Fat Three on the world stage, embarrassing the US for being played like a fiddle, and received not a fucking thing in return. So: "Status Quo, but with less."

And here you are, as Trump pouts and takes his ball home, declaring Trump the winner in all of this, somehow having more balls than any other POTUS ever!

Jesus fucking christ this is terrible for you. You're one of the smart ones though, man. I'm sure you'll bounce back from this moment. 😉

 

[Ns1]

Expect the backtracking from the trumptards now.

R/T_D is already calling him a diplomatic genius.

 

[Ns1]

That is kind of amazing that he was somehow able to claim that Trump is some foreign policy genius because he abandoned a policy that everyone else knew was stupid before he even tried it.

Most people don’t touch a hot stove. Apparently Trump supporters want to praise his genius because he only burned one of his fingers off.

This is basically the r/T_D stance.

 

[alien42]

it'll only take a minute, or five seconds, lol.

 

[JSt0rm]

nobody knew north korea would be so hard.

 

[BoomerD]

No one could have possibly predicted this other than everyone.

No shit. This is exactly how everyone predicted lil Kim would act....make promises, get plenty of publicity, renege on all of the promises.

 

[mikeymikec]

Expect the backtracking from the trumptards now.

Backtracking? Hell no. Why make the point of discussion about Trump's failure when they can make it about "you didn't want to see him succeed!"?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Backtracking? Hell no. Why make the point of discussion about Trump's failure when they can make it about "you didn't want to see him succeed!"?

Meh, they can fuck off.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2009/01/16/limbaugh_i_hope_obama_fails/amp/

 

[WHAMPOM]

So the fuck what? We've been talking to NK for 50 years and have not made a single bit of progress. It's saber-rattling and posturing and nothing would come of whatever meetings did get held. Kudos to Trump for understanding it better than the usual suspects here. It's a sad state of affairs if Trump understands something better than you and he can grasp the concept of futility. The rest of you need to work on it.

North Korea seems to have gotten a lot of substance out of the talks. America, South Korea, the outside world got shit.Trump got publicity in return.
OH! Sorry! You must just be talking out of your ass again.

 

[JSt0rm]

Trump only cares about publicity. Him flying home with people talking positively is all that matters.

 

[JSt0rm]

Too bad he is playing 1 dimensional chess and that feeling is rare.

 

[1sikbITCH]

WTF??? I thought we were giving this retard a nobel peace prize!!!!!!!

Piece of Shit prize maybe.

 

[K1052]

apparently a not so friendly letter was received from NK

Last Thursday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced he was departing on his fourth trip to Pyongyang. On Friday, just hours before Pompeo was supposed to leave, President Trump tweeted that the trip was off. The cancellation came after a top North Korean official sent a secret letter to Pompeo that convinced both he and Trump the visit was not likely to succeed.

Pompeo received the letter from Kim Yong Chol, vice chairman of North Korea’s ruling Workers’ Party Central Committee, on Friday morning, and showed it to Trump in the White House, two senior administration officials confirmed. The exact contents of the message are unclear, but it was sufficiently belligerent that Trump and Pompeo decided to call off Pompeo’s journey, where he was set to introduce his newly announced special envoy, Stephen Biegun, to his North Korean counterparts.

and SK entering DGAF territory since they want something resembling a stable situation

There’s also rising concern inside the Trump administration that the South Korean government of Moon Jae-in is increasingly willing to go it alone, further deepening its détente with Pyongyang regardless of whether Washington approves. Moon is planning a visit to Pyongyang next month. His government is considering opening up a representative office there, along with other new cooperation efforts.

“We have a big problem coming with South Korea,” a senior official involved in the talks told Stanford University’s Daniel Sneider. “It has reached the point where the South Koreans are determined to press ahead. They no longer feel the need to act in parallel with us.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-trip-to-north-korea/?utm_term=.d3341699af68

 

[trenchfoot]

Kim Jong un got what he wanted out of Trump and now he's rubbing it in Trump's face for all the world to see.

Looks like a shut-out in the making because Trump has so far struck out every time he want to bat against Kim.

It's what happens when you play a cock-eyed rookie against seasoned pro's like KGB schooled Putin and the DPRK apparatus.

 

[UberNeuman]

Kim Jong un got what he wanted out of Trump and now he's rubbing it in Trump's face for all the world to see.

Looks like a shut-out in the making because Trump has so far struck out every time he want to bat against Kim.

It's what happens when you play a cock-eyed rookie against seasoned pro's like KGB schooled Putin and the DPRK apparatus.

ah, yes. What everyone could see a mile away, except for the Trumpster. oh, well, we'll always have this thread to chuckle at: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/trump-and-kim-have-now-shaken-hands-breaking.2548415/

 

[Josephus312]

Given our current standard of pissing all over the deals we have made with our actual ALLIES and the Iran deal.... Can you blame them?

Make a deal today and once you disarmed, we'll screw you over. That is the message we have sent to every nation on earth apart from SK and Russia.

 

[K1052]

Sanctions regime collapsing starting with China re-establishing legal and illegal trade with NK.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-...-north-korea-undercutting-trump-admin-n906166

hina has steadily loosened restrictions on trade with North Korea in recent months, undercutting President Donald Trump's effort to exert economic pressure on Kim Jong Un's regime, former U.S. officials and independent experts told NBC News.

From coal shipments to revived construction projects to planes ferrying Chinese tourists to Pyongyang, China has reopened the door to both legal and illegal trade with the North, throwing the North Korean government a vital lifeline while derailing U.S. diplomacy. North Korea depends almost entirely on its larger neighbor to keep its economy afloat.

Trump's rush to meet with Kim — before U.S. and North Korean officials had time to hammer out a clear agenda or commitments from Pyongyang — doomed a relatively united international front against the North that had been painstakingly assembled, Russel and other former officials said.

Now it could be almost impossible to reconstitute the pressure campaign. Apart from China's reluctance, South Korea's progressive Prime Minister Moon Jae-in is openly promoting economic engagement with the North and does not share Washington's preference for strangling the regime's trade prospects.

The shift is evident at the Chinese port of Longkou, where North Korean cargo ships have been spotted pulling into coal docks, according to data obtained by NBC News from Windward, a firm that uses commercial satellites and other data to track maritime traffic. At least 29 North Korean cargo vessels visited the coal docks in May and June. Prior to that no North Korean ships had paid a visit to the port since January.

Gasoline prices in North Korea, which had soared as China squeezed fuel supplies last year, have steadily dropped since March. The Trump administration has blasted North Korea for skirting sanctions by obtaining oil at sea, conducting at least 89 ship-to-ship transfers of fuel.

North Korea also appears to be defying U.N. sanctions adopted in December 2017 that prohibit it from selling fishing rights in its waters. Starting in May, maritime data has shown an increase in foreign fishing vessels in North Korea's exclusive economic zone, Lucas Kuo, an analyst at C4ADS, told NBC News.

Construction activity has resumed in the North Korean capital, analysts said, and workers and heavy machinery have returned to a joint bridge project between the Chinese town of Tumen and the North Korean town of Namyang. The site had gone quiet last year and into the first quarter of 2018, experts at NK Pro reported.

Chinese tourism, which is not banned under U.N. sanctions and has provided a valuable source of hard currency, had dramatically dropped off as Beijing scaled back passenger flights and suspended most travel tours. But tourism has surged since June, after Air China resumed full service to North Korea and Beijing authorities lifted restrictions on travel tours, experts said.

Passenger flights to the capital are regularly sold out and expanded train service must be booked at least two weeks in advance due to the high demand. The rise in visitors has caused delays for some tour groups at Chinese customs offices at the border and the North Koreans have struggled to mobilize tour guides to accommodate the thousands of tourists coming by train and plane, according to NK Pro and other analysts. North Korea has even opened a tourist office in Taiwan.