Trump being racist again. Immigrants "infest" the country

[feralkid]

Is this your actual honest response, or is it internet tough guy stuff? And to be clear, this is what you are suggesting for anyone that is a Nazi correct?

Internet tough guy?

Are you insane? These bastards slaughtered millions and it took a world war to rid the Earth of their evil presence.

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[ivwshane]

So, uhh, we have to wait for them to gain more power before we can stop them? Wait & see if they're different than old fashioned Nazis?

Brad will join us in condemning nazis once the first oven gets fired up, until then, nazis are human too.

NLM!!! Nazi lives matter!!!

Right realbrad?

 

[ivwshane]

Right, because you were not being a dick before. Sorry, it just went right over my head.

I ask all of you this, is it really so hard to give an answer on what to do with Nazis other than murder them? You all act so tough, but when it comes down to giving some small amount of detail, you lash out. When push comes to shove and things might need to happen, will you really fight?

You shame the shit out of them and make their lives uncomfortable, you know, the same things they do.

We know you won't be fighting them because if you were going to you'd be fighting them now instead of acting like fat Nixon and declaring some are very fine people.

 

[realibrad]

It's all diversionary from the topic at hand, of course. You were trying desperately to mitigate the awful nature of a Trump tweet & when that failed you tried to change the subject to something more tractable like Nazis.

There's nothing new about Trump. He uses classic authoritarian tactics.

https://www.facebook.com/actdottv/videos/806423446214890/?t=176

And the way to beat him his with peaceful protest at every level.

You have proven time and time again to not understand things. The argument about what Trump said was about if the statement was inherently racist, or if it was racist in the context of Trump. My argument was about the technicality of it being inherent. You are just not smart enough to understand that.

This is also a separate discussion from that discussion.

 

[realibrad]

Internet tough guy?

Are you insane? These bastards slaughtered millions and it took a world war to rid the Earth of their evil presence.

WTF is wrong with you?

So, if that is true, why are you not out there killing these people? If the Nazis are here and trying to gain power, then for sure you would be morally justified in killing them right?

As a side note, if you believe the "Nazis" of today are equal to the Nazis in Germany then you might be the insane one. You might want to read up on the actual things real Nazis did. Even if your argument is that the modern Nazis aspire to be like the German ones, they have a massive distance to cover.

 

[realibrad]

You shame the shit out of them and make their lives uncomfortable, you know, the same things they do.

We know you won't be fighting them because if you were going to you'd be fighting them now instead of acting like fat Nixon and declaring some are very fine people.

100% on board with shaming people that have not yet committed violence or broken the law.

As for fighting them, what makes you think I am not now? Do you "fight" them beyond what you specified above?

But, lets play the virtue signaling game. Nazis are not very fine people, and the fact that not only Trump, but the GOP in general has been pandering to racists is sick and also damaging out the US as well as the world. We are far too accepting of racism in the US and people are too afraid or simply do not care to call it out often.

Okay, your turn.

 

[Jhhnn]

You have proven time and time again to not understand things. The argument about what Trump said was about if the statement was inherently racist, or if it was racist in the context of Trump. My argument was about the technicality of it being inherent. You are just not smart enough to understand that.

This is also a separate discussion from that discussion.

It's racist & dehumanizing in any context. You merely try to obfuscate that. It's also classic authoritarian method, as well.

Separate discussion? Check the thread title.

 

[Victorian Gray]

100% on board with shaming people that have not yet committed violence or broken the law.

As for fighting them, what makes you think I am not now? Do you "fight" them beyond what you specified above?

But, lets play the virtue signaling game. Nazis are not very fine people, and the fact that not only Trump, but the GOP in general has been pandering to racists is sick and also damaging out the US as well as the world. We are far too accepting of racism in the US and people are too afraid or simply do not care to call it out often.

Okay, your turn.

You're a fucking idiot.

 

[realibrad]

You're a fucking idiot.

Amazing how you are able to attack and insult, but never explain your position. Its almost like, you cant...

 

[Victorian Gray]

Amazing how you are able to attack and insult, but never explain your position. Its almost like, you cant...

Those fine nazis that you seem to be so worried about, they laugh at you and folks like you. They know that it's folks like you that make it easier for them to gain the power that they so desperately want. So you just keep normalizing them. You're doing a great job bunky.

 

[realibrad]

Those fine nazis that you seem to be so worried about, they laugh at you and folks like you. They know that it's folks like you that make it easier for them to gain the power that they so desperately want. So you just keep normalizing them. You're doing a great job bunky.

So even though I do what ivwshane does, they laugh at me and not him, or is also doing a great job?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

So what? It's not about 1 child but about thousands.

The Daily Mail?

.

They allegedly make shit up all the time.

Too hard for you to read both links ? This from Yahoo link. You're welcome to find others if you look.
"Varela said Sanchez and her daughter had left Puerto Cortes, a Honduran port north of the capital city, Tegucigalpa, without telling him or the couple's three other children."

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Hmm when you use a term to dehumanize a group of people, I believe there is a word for that...if only I coukd remember...

The way you routinely dehumanize people that politically disagree with you? Wait, I forgot that it's perfectly acceptable when YOU do it.

 

[ivwshane]

100% on board with shaming people that have not yet committed violence or broken the law.

As for fighting them, what makes you think I am not now? Do you "fight" them beyond what you specified above?

But, lets play the virtue signaling game. Nazis are not very fine people, and the fact that not only Trump, but the GOP in general has been pandering to racists is sick and also damaging out the US as well as the world. We are far too accepting of racism in the US and people are too afraid or simply do not care to call it out often.

Okay, your turn.

Shit! Had you began this thread with that statement and ended there, we wouldn't have 12 dozen pages of you being pedantic and worrying about being nice to racists and nazis and yes, normalizing them.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

It was, and nobody has argued in favor of illegal immigration.

Liar.
Come on Jhhnn, next you'll be saying no one has ever committed voter fraud either.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Immigrants aren't the infestation, they are the cure.

Tell it to Jhhnn, he says it's never been said.

 

[ivwshane]

Liar.
Come on Jhhnn, next you'll be saying no one has ever committed voter fraud either.

Well, are we talking about ANYBODY or are we talking about people on this forum or elected officials and people with power and influence?

Because there is a difference. You can find anyone that has taken any position on any subject, like throwing grenades in tunnels to kill children but it doesn't make their position a mainstream one or something common at all

 

[Jhhnn]

Nobody in this thread has said they are pro illegal immigration. It was a slur.

Easy to see who the pro-ILLEGAL immigration people are. I for one would rather not be a country full of illegal immigrants. Legal immigrants are a-ok.

 

[Jhhnn]

Tell it to Jhhnn, he says it's never been said.

So dishonest. He didn't say illegal immigrants.

 

[Phenzyn]

I guess several of the trump humpers didn't read my post so let me leave this here

 

[Phenzyn]

Wow, pick up a history book! Since I'm a history major, let me educate you and your fellow Trump cultists.

Do you think the horrific events in Germany started any different? You can go back to anytime within recent human history and these are the words they use.

From the Holocaust museum:

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007819

Nazi Propaganda in Occupied Poland

The Nazi regime did not limit distribution of propaganda linking Jews and vermin or disease to Germany. In occupied Poland, Nazi propaganda reinforced the policy of confining Jews to ghettos by portraying them as a health threat requiring quarantine, while German policy makers created a self-fulfilling prophecy by severely limiting access by ghetto residents to food, water, and medicines.

German educational films shown to Polish school children identified “the Jew” as a carrier of lice and typhus. The governor of the Warsaw district, Ludwig Fischer, reported the distribution of “3,000 large posters, 7,000 smaller posters, and 500,000 pamphlets” to inform the Polish population of the health threat posed by the ghettoized Jews. Such fear-mongering no doubt hindered public aid to Jews in the ghettos of German-occupied Poland.​

So referencing vermin? Who infest a place and how they need to be "quarantined" isn't comparable to what is happening here? Then why would you use the exact same descriptors to enforce your rhetoric?

Now let me show you a tweet from Donald Trump

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009071403918864385

Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!
​

So these people fleeing from gangs are going to come here and what? Start the gangs up again here? They are fleeing gangs WITH THEIR CHILDREN, because they want to make their children safe so obviously the safest thing to do would be to just start new MS-13 pockets in the US. Makes sense!

Direct-freakin-quote from Trump when he was campaining.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ican-immigrants-tremendous-infectious-disease

Tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border. The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico​

Now here is Nazi propaganda on "Aliens" also from the Holocaust museum link:

Anti-Jewish Propaganda

Exploiting pre-existing images and stereotypes, Nazi propagandists portrayed Jews as an “alien race” that fed off the host nation, poisoned its culture, seized its economy, and enslaved its workers and farmers.​

Where do you think these terms "aliens" started? And for what purpose?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/08/27/illegal-alien-a-short-history/

Because you need to dehumanize them, make them out to be non-human entirely. These are not people, they are aliens.

And Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aib5Ts2cDI8

"These aren't people. These are animals." (C-SPAN)​

This is textbook Fascism!!

Then he "defends" Germany (Like he gives 2 craps about them or anyone else)

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1008696508697513985

The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!​

Besides the fact that all of this that is pertinent to Germany is a FLAT OUT LIE. Lies within lies, as you can see here
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/europe/germany-trump-crime-figures/index.html

This is litterally the exact same rhetoric that Germany used. He is literally talking about how the Germans need to "protect their culture" against the "aliens" that are invading their culture. This is identical to what the Nazi's said at the beginning and throughout their regime.

I could go on and on and link what Trump has done from day one to fascist regimes being started throughout recent human history and tie his rhetoric and propaganda to EXACTLY what other dictators did. Destroy the free press, immigration, racism, on and on. It's like he is reading from a book on how to turn a country from a democracy into a fascist country.

You idiots need to WAKE UP! It's people like you that allowed the atrocities in Germany to take place because you thought it was no big deal, or you bought into the racist ideologies being so purposefully dished out. This isn't a one time thing for Trump, he has been pushing to make our country into something else from day one.

We are the longest standing democracy in the history of the world. Period. No other country has a record of 300 plus years where an election was held every single time one was slated to take place. EVERY TIME. No exceptions. I guess you think when trump says things like "I wish I could be president for life" is just a joke and yet every single action he makes says that is exactly what he wants.

EDIT: Some of my points were left out as I was editing and trying to make it look pretty

This is the post you Trump humpers need to read.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aib5Ts2cDI8

"These aren't people. These are animals." (C-SPAN)​

If you have ADHD then just click on this video. This doesn't prove the man is a racist, and a fascist? Then you are unfit to live in this country, nay, this planet. GTFO!

 

[conehead433]

According to Trump illegal immigrants killed billions, millions, hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands. or exactly how many? I kind of wish the liar in chief had said billions. Maybe then some of his followers would have actually questioned the veracity of his statement. Regardless the number he stated was pulled so far from up his ass that it was totally ludicrous.

 

[sandorski]

In an alternate Universe, President Trump is explaining how Immigrants Invest in the nation, ushering in an age of prosperity.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

The way you routinely dehumanize people that politically disagree with you? Wait, I forgot that it's perfectly acceptable when YOU do it.

You have me confused with the straw man voices in your head.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

You forgot the first part.



For me to be doing that, I would need to be discrediting someone, but I'm not. I see a conflict so I'm inquiring. Whataboutism is not asking what about in general, its asking about something else to discredit another position without actually discrediting the position.

Lol stop being dense. Your very question is a textbook definition as per wikipedia.

I accused our racist President of dehumanizing a group of people and you brought up Nazi's as some way of challenging my point (aka what about...) or to somehow minimize what he said because some people dehumanize Nazi's.

Give it up already, there is no defending the indefensible. Ask taj, he fails multiple times a day.