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Serious questions to Trump supporters.
How do you process Trumps behavior and responses in this interview?
What goes through your mind when hear his responses to questions?
 
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This is why no lawyer ever wants him to be under oath. Of course, it's exceedingly rare to be able to keep him focused on a single question until a real answer has been provided. Even in this interview, it was quite limited.

The reality is people who actually want to hold him accountable to the basic facts of the things he says do not need help recognizing that he is full of crap. I do think there are a lot of basically ignorant people who might be able to learn that he is dangerously spouting nonsense if they pay attention, but I doubt even interviews like this provide enough dissonance for most people to challenge themselves.

Trumps (un)popularity follows the results of his actions. People see degradation in their lives, and that causes them to re-evaluate the leadership despite the rhetoric.
 
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Apparently life imitates art.
 
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pauldun170 said:
Serious questions to Trump supporters.
How do you process Trumps behavior and responses in this interview?
What goes through your mind when hear his responses to questions?
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To elaborate on what Homerboy said: it's not just that they won't answer honestly if pressed, it's that many of them never actually watch more than the carefully edited video segments presented by hardline right-wing media.

They'll see the "take THAT, liberals" clip from a Trump speech on Fox News; what they won't see is the incoherent rambling, his inability to follow up, his struggles when he's called on his bluff. Fox and others will even cut off live rally and press conference coverage to make sure they only show the 'ideal' Trump (who's still pretty vile), not the incompetent liar who's suffering a rapid cognitive decline.
 
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Apparently the excuse from his supporters is that Swan was disrespectful to him so he should be ignored.

What should be deeply embarrassing to every journalist except for Chris Wallace is that as the OP mentioned his master tactic was when Trump said ‘X says I’m right’ Swan asked ‘what is X?’
 
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He was his usual babbling incoherent self, but nothing awful, until they got to the part about deaths by population. I couldn't really tell whether he was saying South Korea and Germany were misreporting their numbers to make him look bad, or if the numbers don't really matter.
 
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dainthomas said:
He was his usual babbling incoherent self, but nothing awful, until they got to the part about deaths by population. I couldn't really tell whether he was saying South Korea and Germany were misreporting their numbers to make him look bad, or if the numbers don't really matter.
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He doesn't care how you take as long as you don't blame him and like him. His ambiguity allows his supporters to rationalize it however they need to.
 
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Fanatical Meat

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pauldun170 said:
Serious questions to Trump supporters.
How do you process Trumps behavior and responses in this interview?
What goes through your mind when hear his responses to questions?
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I'll play a deplorable.
Those are sneaky questions and it was very rude how the interviewer had no respect for the President.

Holy shit, I swear to god I did not read past @pauldun170 post until I posted the reply.

Trump Axios interview

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Fanatical Meat said:
Those are sneaky questions and it was very rude how the interviewer had no respect for the President.
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The Presiderp, according to today's snowflake MAGAts, is a very fragile person who must be babied, bowed and scraped to at all times, lest his sensitive little fee-fees get all upset, and that makes him so pouty!

Say what you want about George Dubya, but NEVER ONCE!!! did I hear him complain, even a single time, about all the absolutely BRUTAL jokes leveled at his expense in every late night talkshow monologue, from standup comedians, newspaper satire cartoons...and so on and on. He said nothing, because he understood that in Merica it is supposed to be allowed, and even expected to make fun of your leaders.

...And it might even be possible he had enough self-distance to laugh at some of those jokes, I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. Unlike Donny Rotten, who is the most self-centered, pettiest, most vindictive person ever born quite possibly.
 
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FaaR said:
The Presiderp, according to today's snowflake MAGAts, is a very fragile person who must be babied, bowed and scraped to at all times, lest his sensitive little fee-fees get all upset, and that makes him so pouty!

Say what you want about George Dubya, but NEVER ONCE!!! did I hear him complain, even a single time, about all the absolutely BRUTAL jokes leveled at his expense in every late night talkshow monologue, from standup comedians, newspaper satire cartoons...and so on and on. He said nothing, because he understood that in Merica it is supposed to be allowed, and even expected to make fun of your leaders.

...And it might even be possible he had enough self-distance to laugh at some of those jokes, I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. Unlike Donny Rotten, who is the most self-centered, pettiest, most vindictive person ever born quite possibly.
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I remember Dubya having that one Bush impersonator at the correspondents dinner. Trump won't even go to one.
 
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If someone showed this to me about 5 to 6 years ago, I would've thought that this was satire from The Onion.

The fact that this is absolutely real, with zero hint of satire, just beggars belief. The fact that there are people out there who will still simp for Trump, despite all of this, is even more depressing.
 
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Swan did an excellent job of calling out Trump's bullshit. Every journalist needs to adopt this approach. When you try to tell Trump the truth he hits you with a completely different lie from the one before and so now you have to correct him on two things while he’s throwing a third one at you. He lives in a world of his own delusions, and when someone tries to puncture that bubble, it enrages him.

Swan: "I'm sure you've seen disturbing footage of people in fatigues beating the Navy veteran."
Trump: "No no no no no no. No. No. Here you go. Fake news."
Swan: "It's not fake news."
Trump: "No no."
Swan: "It's on video."
 
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My favorite part from memory is:
People say you can test too much
Swan: Who?
Read the manuals and the books
Swan: What manuals? What books?

I have been at so many sales meetings where some asshole who acts like the President bragging about a plan that they obviously spent 10 minutes planning out with so many holes in the plan. Always falls apart the same way
What will you do
How will you do...
Who is responsible

Shit always falls apart at The Who is responsible part.
 
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Is there anyone out there who still thinks Trump should be allowed near the White House building let alone be President of the United States??
 
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