Trump audio from 2005 discussing women released. Brutal

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Cozarkian

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And drumpf's answer to that question was this rambling word salad

Heh, I remember when I heard him admit he's been acting like a politician, which is something I've cited as a reason why I don't think people should vote for him. That undermines his entire "anti-establishment" image - what good is electing a non-politician that behaves exactly like one when it comes to the lack of honest discourse and secret deals?

Try to keep in mind that you & friend believe this guy is the best fit for president of the united states.

I don't know who "friend" is and can't speak for him or her, but as for me, I most certainly do not, nor have I ever.
 

agent00f

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Nobody that said transgenders in locker rooms is inappropriate has spoken out.
In regards to my opinion it only really bothers me if Trump was super creepy like show me your tits or else, which seems unlikely or he's ogling over a 15 year old.
However I'm a guy and this is about how women will perceive it since Trump desperately needs more women to vote for him.

Women love it when you divert the topic of sexual assault/perversion by blaming something else. That's why the GOP needs to put these locker room aficionados on the national tv circuit to tell the ladies they're the real feminine rights activists.
 

Cozarkian

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Nobody that said transgenders in locker rooms is inappropriate has spoken out.
Yes, but why would you expect them to? People tend to post where there is a controversy or difference in opinion. Threads where everyone is in agreement tend to get a few "that sucks" obligatory posts and die.

In regards to my opinion it only really bothers me if Trump was super creepy like show me your tits or else, which seems unlikely or he's ogling over a 15 year old.
However I'm a guy and this is about how women will perceive it since Trump desperately needs more women to vote for him.

This is a fairly complicated issue for me because I think people are way too-sensitive about nudity but still want to be mindful that our culture does have such a sensitivity and we should accommodate the feelings of children. Thus, I believe you will find I have made posts decrying allowing, e.g. a male identifying as a lesbian female to use the female locker room, although without the vigor of the people of whom you are likely thinking.

With regard to Trump, his behavior in simply walking into a locker room unannounced is deplorable. It sounds like these were not areas where males were typically allowed and the contestants should have been provided a warning and opportunity to cover up. For the adult pageants I might give him a pass because these are grown women involved in a competition in which they aren't exactly shy about displaying their bodies and they didn't complain, but it isn't quite that clear because he is in a position of power over the women and absolutely abused that power in order to invade their privacy. As for the teenage contestants, while I recognized there is less evidence to prove he walked in on the teenage contestants, there is simply no excuse for that being done even once.

If I were a criminal prosecutor I would look into whether he could be charged with a crime for which the statute of limitations hasn't run (well, actually, if I were I would probably already know - but you get the point), because this strikes me as being nearly as bad as Peeping Tom behavior (nearly because I suppose it gives the women a chance to cover up after the fact, whereas a Peeping Tom's goal is to not be discovered at all).

They're the ones who consider this locker room talk walk.

It sounds like Fanatical Meat considers it locker room walk, since it doesn't really bother him, and based on other posts, I don't think Fanatical Meat considers Trump to be the best fit for president either.
 

agent00f

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It sounds like Fanatical Meat considers it locker room walk, since it doesn't really bother him, and based on other posts, I don't think Fanatical Meat considers Trump to be the best fit for president either.

Sounds like locker room talk from him.
 

Cozarkian

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Sounds like locker room talk from him.

The point is you are 0 for 2 when putting thoughts into other people's heads. You were wrong when you stated I feel Trump is the best fit, and you were wrong when you stated anyone that could consider this locker room walk does.
 

agent00f

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The point is you are 0 for 2 when putting thoughts into other people's heads. You were wrong when you stated I feel Trump is the best fit, and you were wrong when you stated anyone that could consider this locker room walk does.

No, from your instinct to divert his faults to something something liberals, I'd say you agree with him on most party platform even if you can't quite stand the shame of hugging his nuts. As for Meat, I hope he has a better excuse than trump for the women in his life.
 

Cozarkian

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No, from your instinct to divert his faults to something something liberals, I'd say you agree with him on most party platform even if you can't quite stand the shame of hugging his nuts. As for Meat, I hope he has a better excuse than trump for the women in his life.

I have an instinct to divert his faults to something something liberals? That's news to me. Have I been sleep posting?

Honestly, I have no idea if I agree with him on most of his platform - I decided not to vote for him back when the only policy-oriented statement he had issued was build a wall and make Mexico pay for it and I haven't bothered to keep up to date with any new policies he's proposed since then.
 
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Yes, but why would you expect them to? People tend to post where there is a controversy or difference in opinion. Threads where everyone is in agreement tend to get a few "that sucks" obligatory posts and die.



This is a fairly complicated issue for me because I think people are way too-sensitive about nudity but still want to be mindful that our culture does have such a sensitivity and we should accommodate the feelings of children. Thus, I believe you will find I have made posts decrying allowing, e.g. a male identifying as a lesbian female to use the female locker room, although without the vigor of the people of whom you are likely thinking.

With regard to Trump, his behavior in simply walking into a locker room unannounced is deplorable. It sounds like these were not areas where males were typically allowed and the contestants should have been provided a warning and opportunity to cover up. For the adult pageants I might give him a pass because these are grown women involved in a competition in which they aren't exactly shy about displaying their bodies and they didn't complain, but it isn't quite that clear because he is in a position of power over the women and absolutely abused that power in order to invade their privacy. As for the teenage contestants, while I recognized there is less evidence to prove he walked in on the teenage contestants, there is simply no excuse for that being done even once.

If I were a criminal prosecutor I would look into whether he could be charged with a crime for which the statute of limitations hasn't run (well, actually, if I were I would probably already know - but you get the point), because this strikes me as being nearly as bad as Peeping Tom behavior (nearly because I suppose it gives the women a chance to cover up after the fact, whereas a Peeping Tom's goal is to not be discovered at all).



It sounds like Fanatical Meat considers it locker room walk, since it doesn't really bother him, and based on other posts, I don't think Fanatical Meat considers Trump to be the best fit for president either.

A surprisingly well thought out post. Don't think I'm giving you crap over it. You thought this out well.

Regarding Trump, I've always been a Clinton guy because Bill was a good servant his results were exceptional but you did have to over look his skirt chasing which is easy for me. Best years of my life happened during Bills Presidency and again you have to dig to find wrong and most of it like the crime bill or contributing to the mortgage melt down but those were more unintended consequences that almost nobody predicated.
At first I was excited just from listening to Trumps more serious talks on the Stern show or occasional news show. He seemed to be a hybrid Democrat and Republican. I really was hoping he'd keep out of social policy, figure out a path to single payer healthcare, and keep the f-out of the middle east. I also assumed since he's a builder he'd have great plans to increase home ownership and rebuild the crap that's falling apart in this country. I'll admit with our current grid locked Government we need a bully to get stuff done.
Turns out he appears to know very little about almost anything that doesn't directly impact him, he panders to everyone (what exactly is Trumps abortion stance, last I remember he covered every possible position over a 3 day period), he takes credit for other peoples work- Trumps tax plan is literally the sane as Jeb Bush's plan just more tax cuts and more spending coincidentally Trumps plan was released days after Bush's. The biggest thing that turned me off to Trump is hard to describe to someone who hasn't worked in sales (this isn't a insult), Trump is a fear seller. Fear sellers tend to by lazy, stupid people. Fear selling has its place but to have fear be the first and only technique is just lazy and inexcusable. I'm not even going to begin with Russia.

My sloppily written diatribe is complete.
 

skyking

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liberal plants that are clearly liars. also, benghazi, emails, bill clinton.


Now am I doing it right?
I visualize somebody in a dark corner, hugging their knees and rocking back and forth.
 

zinfamous

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After cnn ran that Stern clip, it was just a matter of time before girls started speaking out. Ironically this was actually in a locker room, and not mic'ed up on the job talking to a co-worker in a bus.

If clinton had balls she should host a press conference with the underage victims before the next debate, and we'll see who gets rattled by a little adversity.

she just invite them all to the next debate and have them sit in the front.

She brought Cuban to rd 1.
Trump (supposedly) brought Flowers and whoever else to rd 2.
 

zinfamous

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Women love it when you divert the topic of sexual assault/perversion by blaming something else. That's why the GOP needs to put these locker room aficionados on the national tv circuit to tell the ladies they're the real feminine rights activists.

remember when republicans couldn't stop talking about rape a few years ago? That seems so precious now.
 
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she just invite them all to the next debate and have them sit in the front.

She brought Cuban to rd 1.
Trump (supposedly) brought Flowers and whoever else to rd 2.

Funny thing is Cuban said he wanted to go and please sit him in the front row. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but it ended there. I don't believe Hillary ever suggested she will seat Cuban up front or even invited Cuban. That's what put Trump into panic mode and he wanted to one up her but his retarded agent plan fell apart when the debate officials said Flowers and company had no purpose being in the VIP box.
 

yllus

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The biggest thing that turned me off to Trump is hard to describe to someone who hasn't worked in sales (this isn't a insult), Trump is a fear seller. Fear sellers tend to by lazy, stupid people. Fear selling has its place but to have fear be the first and only technique is just lazy and inexcusable.
Hah, I hadn't considered that line of thinking. I wonder how many other people who've worked sales and know that you need to be multidimensional in the role also get it.

Lazy and stupid is right; they land on the one most obvious and primitive method of selling and like the lazy assholes they are sit on that forever, usually with a big stupid grin in their face as they try to tell you they know better than you. I hate the type.
 

Ns1

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LOL, now from TMZ!

Donald Trump was recorded in 1992 joking about a little girl who was walking past him ... "I'll be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?"

The Entertainment Tonight video was just released on CBS News. You can't see Trump in the video, which was recorded around Christmas time inside Trump Tower. CBS says he was looking at a group of 10-year-olds walking past him when he made the comment, and you see the group of girls on a nearby escalator right after the comment.

It appears ET, which is owned by CBS Television, went digging through their archives in the wake of the "Access Hollywood" tape ... and this is what they found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRAPLodRnd4
 
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alien42

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Hillary abandoned the race recently?

i'm guessing a conspiracy involving Trump telling Bill that he can guarantee Hillary the presidency and torpedo the Republican party at the same time while making himself the most famous man in the world, or something like that.

who knows, reality seems even crazier.