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Trump administration sues Bolton over book dispute

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pcgeek11 said:
I really don't see how anyone can take this book seriously. Bolton has been vilified
by the left for decades as a liar and Satan incarnate.

But now that he has written a tell all book they are going to believe every word. I find it rather humorous.
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Cool story, bro. I don't think Bolton is a liar; I think he's insane. Bolton has always been straight up about his love of 16-19th century style imperialism. The fact that Republicans keep giving the guy power is a harsh indictment of their depravity.
 
pcgeek11 said:
I really don't see how anyone can take this book seriously. Bolton has been vilified
by the left for decades as a liar and Satan incarnate.

But now that he has written a tell all book they are going to believe every word. I find it rather humorous.
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I've never had much respect for Bolton. He won't sway my opinion in the slightest. OTOH, he's been a Conservative darling for decades. Maybe he'll sway theirs.
 
K1052 said:
Trump literally just claimed that every conversation he has is classified. Which isn't, in any way, how it works.

He's just trying to prevent unflattering and damaging stuff from coming out like he always does.
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Not everything can be classified. By saying it is he has shown his hand clearly. We talk about freedom of speech and debate just what counts as a violation of that freedom, well this is a real and clear freedom of speech violation. This is an actually government body trying to tell people that they can't tell their story because it would be bad not for national security, but for the Presidents reelection chances.
 
"Criminal problems" haha

Hey dipshit, every single American has a criminal problem: Donald Trump.

I've resented the hell out of Bolton for idk, 18 years now? Another brat stuck in a man's body, just one without the handicap of low intelligence. I'll grab the book purely out of spite for Il Douche and these traitors busy kneecapping our democracy and republic.
 
Greenman said:
Bolton must be dancing, the lawsuit probably gets him another million in sales.
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Presently #1 seller on Amazon...

Trump is spectacularly good at promoting books which say bad things about him. It's questionable if it's his core belief that all press is good press or a manifestation of the Streisand Effect. Maybe both.
 
K1052 said:
Presently #1 seller on Amazon...

Trump is spectacularly good at promoting books which say bad things about him. It's questionable if it's his core belief that all press is good press or a manifestation of the Streisand Effect. Maybe both.
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Trump has the celebrity mindset: all publicity is good.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
You do realize that there is such a thing as classified information - right?

Just because you have information doesn't mean you have a right to spread it.


Not saying that is the case here, but still... Just based on your reply here it doesn't look like you acknowledge that confidential information IS a thing.
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And by your reply I don't believe you understand what the requirements are for "prior restraint". NY Times v. United States. Unless the information causes an inevitable, direct, and immediate event imperiling the safety of American forces, prior restraint was unjustified.

The book has already been reviewed. They made all necessary edits based on national security concerns they were asked to make. This isn't about national security. This is about Trump's ego. Nothing more.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
You do realize that there is such a thing as classified information - right?

Just because you have information doesn't mean you have a right to spread it.


Not saying that is the case here, but still... Just based on your reply here it doesn't look like you acknowledge that confidential information IS a thing.
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You do realize that when you replied to my post, or rather, only its first paragraph, that the remainder of my post contained this paragraph, right?

As for Trump's threat of criminal liability, I can only assume that the information in the book has been carefully checked to make sure there is nothing classified in there.
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MomentsofSanity said:
And by your reply I don't believe you understand what the requirements are for "prior restraint". NY Times v. United States. Unless the information causes an inevitable, direct, and immediate event imperiling the safety of American forces, prior restraint was unjustified.

The book has already been reviewed. They made all necessary edits based on national security concerns they were asked to make. This isn't about national security. This is about Trump's ego. Nothing more.
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Trump is going for the do-over, like he's done with Flynn & the Russia investigation. Keep changing the players & the rules until you get the results you want.
 
pcgeek11 said:
I really don't see how anyone can take this book seriously. Bolton has been vilified
by the left for decades as a liar and Satan incarnate.

But now that he has written a tell all book they are going to believe every word. I find it rather humorous.
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Alert! Multiple logical fallacies spotted!
 
K1052 said:
Presently #1 seller on Amazon...

Trump is spectacularly good at promoting books which say bad things about him. It's questionable if it's his core belief that all press is good press or a manifestation of the Streisand Effect. Maybe both.
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LOL @ Trump, hoisted on his own retard.
 
WaPo has an editorial today which explains the White House "review" process:


Nutshell, they first had an NSC official review the book for sensitive and classified information. That official gave feedback to Bolton and the publisher, who then made changes in the book to comply with the feedback. Pretty standard. But that wasn't the end of it.

They then claimed they that they were having a second official review it with more "broad based knowledge." Translation: someone who can see more than just the national security implications, i.e. a political hack. Edit: that person was Trump loyalist Michael Ellis.

Then they just sat on it, and sat on it, giving no further feedback for over a month until they filed the legal complaint.
 
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woolfe9998 said:
WaPo has an editorial today which explains the White House "review" process:


Nutshell, they first had an NSC official review the book for sensitive and classified information. That official gave feedback to Bolton and the publisher, who then made changes in the book to comply with the feedback. Pretty standard. But that wasn't the end of it.

They then claimed they that they were having a second official review it with more "broad based knowledge." Translation: someone who can see more than just the national security implications, i.e. a political hack.

Then they just sat on it, and sat on it, giving no further feedback for over a month until they filed the legal complaint.
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Obstructionism from Trump? That's why Barr was appointed, isn't it? When honest people don't give him what he wants, he tries for the do-over.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
In all honesty, I really don't care for "white knights" coming out of the Trump administration in order to try and make money.

This guy is like 6th or so to do it I think?

Just saying, go release info and talk about how dumb he is - but attention grabbing to try and sell books doesn't exactly make you sound useful.
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Marie Yavonovich and Lt. Col. Vindman tried to sound the alarm. Didn't you criticize them?
 
I'm glad Bolton is out. He & Pompeo orchestrated the run-up to what was damned near a war with Iran. All of it was contrived. As a war mongering Neocon, he sees crimes against humanity as a good thing.
 
Trump being himself makes enemies out of underlings every time he cranks up that yapper of his. Those enemies seek retribution by exposing whatever it is the nitwit did that was either criminal or libelous.

This cycle of pain has been playing itself out the day Trump took office because he expects blind loyalty from everyone around him despite his crippling personality disorders that allows him to ignore his own criminal behavior and expects his underlings to do the same.

The moron has been going round and round with this insanity systematically firing any and all that would dare speak up about his incompetence, his failings as a human being.

Four more years of this madness with millions still thinking what a marvelous idea it is to keep this imbecile right where he is? How in the name of all that's logical and plain to see that these folks still think Trump is "doing a really great job"?

edit - Question being, a great job of what? Pissing of the liberals? Making enemies of our nation's allies? Creating chaos out of order? Establishing corporate welfare as a priority over any other thing the common folk require? OK, yeah, really great job then.
 
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woolfe9998 said:
They then claimed they that they were having a second official review it with more "broad based knowledge." Translation: someone who can see more than just the national security implications, i.e. a political hack. Edit: that person was Trump loyalist Michael Ellis.
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This is the point where they crossed the line between national security and 1st Amendment violation.
 
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