TRUE Vs. Cooler Master Hyper Tx

[DaSinical1]

I just recently upgraded my computer from an xp2000 based system. I had an Cooler Master Hyper Tx sitting around so I installed it on my e6600 just to test it out but I didn't expect much. I also ordered a TRUE & I should be receiving it tomorrow.

On my overclocked e6600 (3.6ghz 400X9), I am getting 59c load & 37c idle with the Cooler Master Hyper Tx & 92mm Artic Cooling Fan:

My question is do you think I would see a great increase in cooling performance by installing the TRUE when I receive it tomorrow or should I just leave well enough alone & return/sell the TRUE unopened?

I guess it can't hurt to install the TRUE & test it out but I wanted to see what everyone else thinks first before I have to go through the hassle.

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

[RussianSensation]

Sell/return the TRUE imo. 59*C is a reasonable temperature for a C2D processor. Even if you get extra 300mhz overclock from that CPU, that's just an 8% performance increase for $60. Problem is E6600 most likely won't get to 3.9ghz in any event; so it doesn't seem worthwhile.

 

[Tempered81]

yeah thats a damn good temp. the true will probably do equal or only a little bit better, and you may even have to lap the base of the sink to achieve that.

 

[DaSinical1]

Thanks for the input guys. Thats exactly what I was thinking but a few things to note...

1 - I was actually getting around 63-64c using AS5 but when I switched the TIM to Shin G751 thats when the temps dropped to 59c.
2 - I am only using 1.33v so I think that this processor still has more headroom to play with.
3 - The Hyper Tx has the push pin mounting & the TRUE has the bolt down mounting.
4 - The TRUE can use 120mm fans so I can lower the db while also increasing the performance.
5 - The installation factor is up in the air because despite all the trouble that people have using the push pin mounting... my experience has been quite favorable as it only takes me about 10 seconds to install my hyper tx (i have taken this thing off about 10 times already) but I already cut out a hole in the back of my motherboard so that I can easly mount the TRUE as well. My only concern is how the push pin mounting hold up to multiple installs as it is just plastic.

I actually don't mind using the TRUE & keeping the hyper tx as a good backup (I only paid $10 dollars for it) as I like to insure that my system is as stable as possible when I overclock & plus it looks alot nicer to boot =).

 

[bunnyfubbles]

I find it hard to imagine a heatsink of the same type to be vastly superior to the TRUE in the immediate or even more distant future. I'd keep it not only for better performance now but for the future.

 

[Duvie]

I would use the True.....59c-63c with only 1.33v is OK....I think with the TRUE you will see about 4-5c in idle temps and perhaps low 50's under load.

I like the backup idea for the Hyper Tx

 

[VirtualLarry]

59C is a fine temp. Keep the HyperTX, and then use the TRUE for your NEXT build. (Get an E8400 and OC that!)

 

[DaSinical1]

I was actually thinking about getting the E8400 sometime soon. Man this is crazy... i didn't upgrade my computer for 3-4 years and in the past month I have already gone through a E2180, E2200 & E6600. Not to mention all the other items ive upgraded in the past month. Ignorance was bliss when I was using my athlon based system (& easier on my wallet) but it seems that the upgrade bug has bitten me again.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

should have droppe dthis in C&C with your case thread but, I'd say hang on to the TRUE, you have some headroom left with your 6600 I'd bet and if you do decide to go with an 8400 you'll have the top of the heap cooling ready to go for it. you will definately want to check the base for flatness before using though. lapping is necessary on as many as 60% to get even and lowest temperatures. To be completely honest though, you're not going to see a *major* difference on heatsinks till you get a quadcore, the extra watts a load really stress the cooling available.

 

[DaSinical1]

I received the true today... spent the 2 hours to lap it (didn't need it but I figured why not lap it) & my load temp now hover around 50-51c so basically an 8-9c drop in load temps. Not bad to have the extra headroom when summertime comes around. BTW, this is using a low speed yate so I know if I use a little more powerful fan that the performance would increase as well.

 

[n7]

When lapped, there's no better [air] cooler than the TRUE.

No idea why anyone wouldn't want the best when they have it

 

[Tempered81]

duvie's guess was pretty close, Load temps in the low 50's.

You could probably hit 3.8 before you reached 65 load.

 

[DaSinical1]

Can anybody advise me on what would be a sweet fan to use on the TRUE? I need it to be relatively quite when undervolted as my whole case has either 120mm or 140mm yates all on controllers but I would like something with a little more kick for the heatsink when the processor needs it.

 

[DaSinical1]

Let me tell you that this thing it HUGH!!! I mounted it facing north south in my case as the east west setup would nearly rub the top fans. Luckily I have two fans on top to exhaust this thing or I would be re-circulating the warm air. The funny thing is that with my window on my case all you see is the top 1/3 taken up by the TRUE & the middle 1/4 taken up the S1 w/ the 120 yate. Looks kinda "cool" now =).

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
duvie's guess was pretty close, Load temps in the low 50's.

You could probably hit 3.8 before you reached 65 load.

That is because I have one and have played with it a bit...best air cooler I have ever owned..


I would be interested in his idle temps still....
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I like to use my TRUE ThermalRight Ultra 120 Extreme with an antec tricool 120mm fan...even at highest setting my case fans are more audible

 

[DaSinical1]

Your were right there too... my idle temps are hovering around 31-32c.

 

[DaSinical1]

Duvie,

What fan do you recommend for use with this heatsink? Right now i am using a Yate thats spinning at about 680 rpm.

 

[n7]

I don't like loud fans, but the S-Flex 1600 RPM one would do.

Or what i use: Noctua 120mm P12.

1300 RPM, so it's not a beast, but ah, they are so nice n quiet & i love the cable sleeving.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: DaSinical1
Duvie,

What fan do you recommend for use with this heatsink? Right now i am using a Yate thats spinning at about 680 rpm.

try a push-pull config on the true.

use two of these fans... http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/de12gf.html
they are practically silent.

 

[DaSinical1]

That fan is sweet... since its so quite... should i just get four & do two pushing in parallel & two pulling in parallel? Kinda like a JET ENGINE =)

 

[Tempered81]

hehe well each fan by itself already has two internal counter rotating blades you would end up with eight blades, kind of like a turbine jet engine!

 

[DaSinical1]

On second thought... I just looked over the specs again & I don't think that they give enough CFM. I think I might need something with a little more gusto.

 

[Phunk0ne]

DaSinical1:

TR U-120-E & Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F,

Lapped IHS & HS:
Idle Core 0/1: 26C/27C (fanspeed @ 50%)
Load ORTHOS 100% Core 0/1: 47C/48C (fanspeed @ 100%)
CPU: E6750 @ 3.6GHz @ 1.4V Bios / 1.36V Everest
TIM: Arctic Ceramique

Unlapped IHS - Lapped HS @ same speed @ same Volts
Idle Core 0/1: 33C/34C (fanspeed @ 50%)
Load ORTHOS 100% Core 0/1: 55C/56C (fanspeed @ 50%)
TIM: AS-5

I'd suggest the Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F. These 120mm fans, although it does not have your fancy leds and such, its astonishing quiet @ fullspeed, you are paying for it too
Now I would like to see the CM H-Tx do these numbers.

Jaredpace: I hope you are joking about those fans being quite, right? O_O !?!

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Scythe Slipstream. 1600 for great cooling, 1200 for practically silent, the 800 is literally silent and they have a 500 for the guys a spcr. They handle down-volting very well, that the main reason I love them. I buy almost exclusively the loud 1900rpm fans and run them at 7v, essentially gives me something just a little quieter than the 1200 but, with plenty of headroom.

 

[Tempered81]

phukone: yes i was joking, they spin at a total of 5600rpm i think.