true image question

Dorkenstein

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With Acronis TrueImage, if I restore a drive image to a blank formatted NTFS drive, will the image just be dumped on there or will it be in the same partition size as when I backed it up?

Example:

30gb windows install is on drive c:

When restored from image to 300gb blank drive, will the 300gb drive have a 30gb main partition created?

Thanks.
 

Elixer

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If I recall correctly, then yes, it will make a 30GB partition, and leave the other 270 alone.
 

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With Acronis Trueimage, you can do both.

In full automatic mode, it will stretch the primary partition to the size of the new drive if there is only one partition alternatively, if there's more than one partition on the drive, it will leave the partition sizes alone and leave the remaining space unused/unpartioned.

In manual mode, you can get it to do whatever you want.
 

Dorkenstein

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Okay, I have my c: drive backed up now. If I restore the image to a blank Velociraptor 300gb, will I have to change the raptors drive letter to C: to keep all the program associations accurate? Thanks.
 

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Question on breaking up RAID1 to go back to 2 640GB SATA-II drives. I haven't done this yet but will be possibly this weekend. I am thinking of resetting my system back to stock settings vs 3.4Ghz OC (up from 3.0) on E8400. I can do normal restore w/acronis or use universal restore. The reason I ask is the system was initially installed to a RAID1 configuration. Can I do a restore of the image to a single drive after wiping out the RAID1 set and maybe having to format the drive (start XP install to prep drive) then restore the image without issue? I kind of don't want to have to do a complete rebuild then restore files/folders from the image as that'll screw up what i have installed...forcing more software re-install. I am trying to make this as painless as possible, preferably pain-free! ;-)

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Mike
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Okay, I have my c: drive backed up now. If I restore the image to a blank Velociraptor 300gb, will I have to change the raptors drive letter to C: to keep all the program associations accurate? Thanks.

I've been wondering about this too, What if someone upgrades their C drive and wants to make an image using true image? Does it work correctly?
 

darkenedsoul

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If you are replacing a drive and have other drives in there other than C, disconnect them then go through the restore process to the new drive alone, this will ensure it is drive C. I don't know if it would change dynamically if you installed that drive while others were in the system because it would get a drive letter most likely by the OS *unless* you didn't format it. But that begs the question of will Acronis restore to that drive if it a) doesn't have a drive letter and b) isn't formatted (no drive letter)....I'd go with disconnecting power to any internal/external drives, disconnect your current C drive, plug in new one, run acronis and restore to it. Keep in mind you will probably have to at the least run a windows install disk and format the drive so Acronis sees it when you run the boot CD. That's pretty much been my experience after wiping a raidset and trying to restore, didn't see the drive till I formatted it again. Then it went fine.
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: darkenedsoul
If you are replacing a drive and have other drives in there other than C, disconnect them then go through the restore process to the new drive alone, this will ensure it is drive C. I don't know if it would change dynamically if you installed that drive while others were in the system because it would get a drive letter most likely by the OS *unless* you didn't format it. But that begs the question of will Acronis restore to that drive if it a) doesn't have a drive letter and b) isn't formatted (no drive letter)....I'd go with disconnecting power to any internal/external drives, disconnect your current C drive, plug in new one, run acronis and restore to it. Keep in mind you will probably have to at the least run a windows install disk and format the drive so Acronis sees it when you run the boot CD. That's pretty much been my experience after wiping a raidset and trying to restore, didn't see the drive till I formatted it again. Then it went fine.

If I remove all my external and internal HDDs where do I get the drive image from? For example, I have 3 HDDs and I image my C to my 1TB drive. Then if I have to remove both my C and my 1TB drive, how do I restore the image to the new HDD?
 

Elixer

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*AFTER* you restore the image, then you remove all but the restored HD.
Then you do a repair install with the CD/DVD.
Pick the correct repair option though, it isn't the first one you see, it is the 2nd (IIRC)
*cough* IGNORE this. :eek:
That info was for another thread. :(

 

darkenedsoul

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: darkenedsoul
If you are replacing a drive and have other drives in there other than C, disconnect them then go through the restore process to the new drive alone, this will ensure it is drive C. I don't know if it would change dynamically if you installed that drive while others were in the system because it would get a drive letter most likely by the OS *unless* you didn't format it. But that begs the question of will Acronis restore to that drive if it a) doesn't have a drive letter and b) isn't formatted (no drive letter)....I'd go with disconnecting power to any internal/external drives, disconnect your current C drive, plug in new one, run acronis and restore to it. Keep in mind you will probably have to at the least run a windows install disk and format the drive so Acronis sees it when you run the boot CD. That's pretty much been my experience after wiping a raidset and trying to restore, didn't see the drive till I formatted it again. Then it went fine.

If I remove all my external and internal HDDs where do I get the drive image from? For example, I have 3 HDDs and I image my C to my 1TB drive. Then if I have to remove both my C and my 1TB drive, how do I restore the image to the new HDD?

You would have the drive with the image on it on an external USB/Firewire/eSata drive in order to restore to the newly installed drive (formatted so it will be seen by acronis). Disconnect all other internal/externals other than new internal and external (or leave it set up as drive D if you can jumper it as 2ndary drive) with your image on it.

Mike
 

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Originally posted by: Elixer
*AFTER* you restore the image, then you remove all but the restored HD.
Then you do a repair install with the CD/DVD.
Pick the correct repair option though, it isn't the first one you see, it is the 2nd (IIRC)

That depends. I'd remove all other drives but new one + drive with image(s) to restore. What's this repair option you're talking about? They may or may not have to deal with that. I restored my raid0 image with no hassles from an external USB drive but I also only have that (2 disks) and another SATA internal 500 (other 2 are also 500's). Worked fine off USB external for restore, just takes awhile. From an internal drive that would be D or beyond and formatting the new drive first so it is C (i.e. disconnect internal D drive w/image(s) if that's the case) then reset, connect 2nd internal, power on and boot from Acronis disc and do restore that way would be faster I think bandwidth-wise.

Just some ideas for you to look at is all I'm tossing out here. See what works best/easiest.

Mike
 

Elixer

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Originally posted by: darkenedsoul
Originally posted by: Elixer
*AFTER* you restore the image, then you remove all but the restored HD.
Then you do a repair install with the CD/DVD.
Pick the correct repair option though, it isn't the first one you see, it is the 2nd (IIRC)

That depends. I'd remove all other drives but new one + drive with image(s) to restore. What's this repair option you're talking about? They may or may not have to deal with that. I restored my raid0 image with no hassles from an external USB drive but I also only have that (2 disks) and another SATA internal 500 (other 2 are also 500's). Worked fine off USB external for restore, just takes awhile. From an internal drive that would be D or beyond and formatting the new drive first so it is C (i.e. disconnect internal D drive w/image(s) if that's the case) then reset, connect 2nd internal, power on and boot from Acronis disc and do restore that way would be faster I think bandwidth-wise.

Just some ideas for you to look at is all I'm tossing out here. See what works best/easiest.

Mike

Whoops! It never pays to post the right answer in the wrong thread. :eek:
That will show me for having too many windows open. :frown:


 

darkenedsoul

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Originally posted by: Elixer
Originally posted by: darkenedsoul
Originally posted by: Elixer
*AFTER* you restore the image, then you remove all but the restored HD.
Then you do a repair install with the CD/DVD.
Pick the correct repair option though, it isn't the first one you see, it is the 2nd (IIRC)

That depends. I'd remove all other drives but new one + drive with image(s) to restore. What's this repair option you're talking about? They may or may not have to deal with that. I restored my raid0 image with no hassles from an external USB drive but I also only have that (2 disks) and another SATA internal 500 (other 2 are also 500's). Worked fine off USB external for restore, just takes awhile. From an internal drive that would be D or beyond and formatting the new drive first so it is C (i.e. disconnect internal D drive w/image(s) if that's the case) then reset, connect 2nd internal, power on and boot from Acronis disc and do restore that way would be faster I think bandwidth-wise.

Just some ideas for you to look at is all I'm tossing out here. See what works best/easiest.

Mike

Whoops! It never pays to post the right answer in the wrong thread. :eek:
That will show me for having too many windows open. :frown:

No harm, no foul hopefully! LOL. And yes, I know about that too (too many windows....). ;-)

 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: darkenedsoul
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: darkenedsoul
If you are replacing a drive and have other drives in there other than C, disconnect them then go through the restore process to the new drive alone, this will ensure it is drive C. I don't know if it would change dynamically if you installed that drive while others were in the system because it would get a drive letter most likely by the OS *unless* you didn't format it. But that begs the question of will Acronis restore to that drive if it a) doesn't have a drive letter and b) isn't formatted (no drive letter)....I'd go with disconnecting power to any internal/external drives, disconnect your current C drive, plug in new one, run acronis and restore to it. Keep in mind you will probably have to at the least run a windows install disk and format the drive so Acronis sees it when you run the boot CD. That's pretty much been my experience after wiping a raidset and trying to restore, didn't see the drive till I formatted it again. Then it went fine.

If I remove all my external and internal HDDs where do I get the drive image from? For example, I have 3 HDDs and I image my C to my 1TB drive. Then if I have to remove both my C and my 1TB drive, how do I restore the image to the new HDD?

You would have the drive with the image on it on an external USB/Firewire/eSata drive in order to restore to the newly installed drive (formatted so it will be seen by acronis). Disconnect all other internal/externals other than new internal and external (or leave it set up as drive D if you can jumper it as 2ndary drive) with your image on it.

Mike

Ok I see, so anything not being used by True Image is not plugged in. Gotcha

Oh and BTW: true image does see unformatted drives. There is an option in the True Image software (if you create the recovery CD) that allows you to setup a new drive on your system. Then you can just clone one drive to another right there and shut down. I'm going to give that a try soon, possibly next week.