Truck/SUV drivers and complaniners [sic]

upsciLLion

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I'm not one to complain about gas prices, but the next time one of you four banger driving elitist corndogs needs a couch, chair, etc. moved, feel free to tie it on top or drag it behind your car. ;)
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: upsciLLion
I'm not one to complain about gas prices, but the next time one of you four banger driving elitist corndogs needs a couch, chair, etc. moved, feel free to tie it on top or drag it behind your car. ;)

then ill just borrow my dads truck. or use my old jimmy...

 

QuitBanningMe

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No thanks....I'll just rent one for $40 or take advantage of free delivery most places offer if it is something new.
 

Freejack2

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Hmm lets think here.
Last time I needed a vehicle larger than my car to carry something: 2003
Cost of Uhaul: $40

Approximate total miles driven since then: 70,000
Cost of driving my subcompact car for 70,000 miles divided by 32mpg times an average of $1.80 a gallon: $3937.50

Cost of driving an suv or truck at an average of 18mpg for 70,000 miles at an average of $1.80 a gallon: $7000.00

Cost of driving my car and uhaul rental: $3977.50
Total savings over driving an suv or truck: $3022.50

So this means I've saved about $1500 a year before the savings of lower cost vehicle. My car cost $16,000 new. A similarly equipped SUV or truck would cost me at minimum $26k after some hard bargaining. Over 5 years not even including interest that's an extra $2000 a year.
Figure an extra $200 for maintenance and I'm looking at a grand total of
Drum roll please...
...
$3700 a year!

$3700 a year extra to operate a vehicle that I'll probably need once every 3 years?!?! You have go to be kidding me.
 

Ornery

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Oct 9, 1999
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...couch, chair, etc.

Want a laugh? Park outside the loading dock at Sears sometime, and watch the parade of econoboxes leaving without their intended cargo. Or watch the nimrods in front of BestBuy, trying to load a TV or floor standing speakers. These wieniemobiles can't even handle a full sized spare tire, let alone chair! By the time the nitwits get done putting their subs and amps in there, they can't even haul clock radio anymore!
 

acemcmac

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Freejack2
Hmm lets think here.
Last time I needed a vehicle larger than my car to carry something: 2003
Cost of Uhaul: $40

Approximate total miles driven since then: 70,000
Cost of driving my subcompact car for 70,000 miles divided by 32mpg times an average of $1.80 a gallon: $3937.50

Cost of driving an suv or truck at an average of 18mpg for 70,000 miles at an average of $1.80 a gallon: $7000.00

Cost of driving my car and uhaul rental: $3977.50
Total savings over driving an suv or truck: $3022.50

So this means I've saved about $1500 a year before the savings of lower cost vehicle. My car cost $16,000 new. A similarly equipped SUV or truck would cost me at minimum $26k after some hard bargaining. Over 5 years not even including interest that's an extra $2000 a year.
Figure an extra $200 for maintenance and I'm looking at a grand total of
Drum roll please...
...
$3700 a year!

$3700 a year extra to operate a vehicle that I'll probably need once every 3 years?!?! You have go to be kidding me.

well put
 

CrackRabbit

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Mar 30, 2001
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This is why Hatchbacks >*
I have moved a chest freezer in the back of a Ford Escort before, and while moving my GF and I stuffed our washer and dryer into her PT Cruiser.
 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Freejack2
Hmm lets think here.
Last time I needed a vehicle larger than my car to carry something: 2003
Cost of Uhaul: $40

Approximate total miles driven since then: 70,000
Cost of driving my subcompact car for 70,000 miles divided by 32mpg times an average of $1.80 a gallon: $3937.50

Cost of driving an suv or truck at an average of 18mpg for 70,000 miles at an average of $1.80 a gallon: $7000.00

Cost of driving my car and uhaul rental: $3977.50
Total savings over driving an suv or truck: $3022.50

So this means I've saved about $1500 a year before the savings of lower cost vehicle. My car cost $16,000 new. A similarly equipped SUV or truck would cost me at minimum $26k after some hard bargaining. Over 5 years not even including interest that's an extra $2000 a year.
Figure an extra $200 for maintenance and I'm looking at a grand total of
Drum roll please...
...
$3700 a year!

$3700 a year extra to operate a vehicle that I'll probably need once every 3 years?!?! You have go to be kidding me.

Pwnt.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ornery
...couch, chair, etc.

Want a laugh? Park outside the loading dock at Sears sometime, and watch the parade of econoboxes leaving without their intended cargo. Or watch the nimrods in front of BestBuy, trying to load a TV or floor standing speakers. These wieniemobiles can't even handle a full sized spare tire, let alone chair! By the time the nitwits get done putting their subs and amps in there, they can't even haul clock radio anymore!

I believe TVs, floor standing speakers, subs, and amps fit in the same catagory as pousermobiles for spectacular wastes of money and resources.
 

Ornery

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Oct 9, 1999
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Pwnt
  • Of note, occupants of the lightest cars have dramatically higher death rates. Also, most significantly from a safety point of view, heavy pickups and SUVs are associated with far higher death rates in the OTHER vehicle than in themselves, or than death rates caused by comparably heavy cars.

    SUV-to-car collisions are six times more likely to kill the occupants of the smaller vehicle when compared to a normal car-to-car collision. You may be safer inside an SUV, but you're at greater risk of killing others in the event of an accident.
 

m2kewl

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Oct 7, 2001
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oh pleeeez. i've recently moved a 24"x48" foldable porch table, eight foldable lawn chairs, a sunshade, and four flower pots on my tsx w/fold down rear seats.

if i need to move something that big, i get it delivered, rent a 7' uhaul, or borrow my friend's avalanche. which is still cheaper then the gas you're spending on the poser-offroad vehicle for grocery shopping daily.
 

CraigRT

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Jun 16, 2000
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I take a van from work when I need to move something big.. The price of fuel during ownership of the van would not worth having it's usefulness only once or twice a year.
 

m2kewl

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Oct 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: m2kewl

if i need to move something that big, i get it delivered, rent a 7' uhaul, or borrow my friend's avalanche...
MmmKay...

lmao. okay - i'll just HAVE it delivered....that suffice for you??? ;)
 

ActuaryTm

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Mar 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: Ornery
Pwnt
  • Of note, occupants of the lightest cars have dramatically higher death rates. Also, most significantly from a safety point of view, heavy pickups and SUVs are associated with far higher death rates in the OTHER vehicle than in themselves, or than death rates caused by comparably heavy cars.

    SUV-to-car collisions are six times more likely to kill the occupants of the smaller vehicle when compared to a normal car-to-car collision. You may be safer inside an SUV, but you're at greater risk of killing others in the event of an accident.
Would be terribly remiss if a statistical insurance professional did not mention that the IIHS data shown in the above link is 10 years old (though it was compiled in 1998), and is hardly conclusive for the present considering the improvement in passenger car safety since such a time.

Until such a professional can be located, I suppose I will have to do.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: Ornery
Pwnt
  • Of note, occupants of the lightest cars have dramatically higher death rates. Also, most significantly from a safety point of view, heavy pickups and SUVs are associated with far higher death rates in the OTHER vehicle than in themselves, or than death rates caused by comparably heavy cars.

    SUV-to-car collisions are six times more likely to kill the occupants of the smaller vehicle when compared to a normal car-to-car collision. You may be safer inside an SUV, but you're at greater risk of killing others in the event of an accident.
Would be terribly remiss if a statistical insurance professional did not mentioned that the IIHS data shown in the above link is 10 years old (though it was compiled in 1998), and is hardly conclusive for the present considering the improvement in passenger car safety since such a time.

Until such a professional can be located, I suppose I will have to do.

lmao

 

bharok

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Jun 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Freejack2
Hmm lets think here.
Last time I needed a vehicle larger than my car to carry something: 2003
Cost of Uhaul: $40

Approximate total miles driven since then: 70,000
Cost of driving my subcompact car for 70,000 miles divided by 32mpg times an average of $1.80 a gallon: $3937.50

Cost of driving an suv or truck at an average of 18mpg for 70,000 miles at an average of $1.80 a gallon: $7000.00

Cost of driving my car and uhaul rental: $3977.50
Total savings over driving an suv or truck: $3022.50

So this means I've saved about $1500 a year before the savings of lower cost vehicle. My car cost $16,000 new. A similarly equipped SUV or truck would cost me at minimum $26k after some hard bargaining. Over 5 years not even including interest that's an extra $2000 a year.
Figure an extra $200 for maintenance and I'm looking at a grand total of
Drum roll please...
...
$3700 a year!

$3700 a year extra to operate a vehicle that I'll probably need once every 3 years?!?! You have go to be kidding me.

 

bharok

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Jun 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: CraigRT
I take a van from work when I need to move something big.. The price of fuel during ownership of the van would not worth having it's usefulness only once or twice a year.

:thumbsup:
 

Ornery

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Oct 9, 1999
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...the IIHS data shown in the above link is 10 years old...

Yes, things have changed SO much since then... :roll:

Playing Games With SUV Safety Statistics
  • What's more, buried deep in NHTSA's data is the truth about which vehicles are the safest to drive. By far the riskiest vehicles on the road are very small cars. Their driver fatality rate per billion vehicle miles from 1996 to 2000 in 1996 to 2000 models was 11.56. Small cars followed with a rate of 7.85. Large SUVs, by contrast, are among the safest vehicles around, finishing right behind minivans and large cars with a rate of 3.79.4

    Common sense tells us why this is so. In any collision -- whether with a tree, a telephone pole or another vehicle -- the laws of physics apply. The heavier the vehicle is, the better protected are its occupants, and the more likely they are to survive an accident.
Are SUVs too dangerous for the road? 5-Mar-2003
  • ...What's more, the aggressive design of SUVs ensures passenger cars come off worst in collisions with them. Last month, researchers at the State University of New York at Buffalo, found that in crashes between small cars and large SUVs, the risk of death was 24 times greater in the car.
What You Need to Know About Passenger Cars and Safety Posted on 2/8/05
  • ...Cars' lower center of gravity also makes them more nimble and capable of avoiding a collision, as do their smaller size and typically shorter braking distances.

    Unfortunately, a couple of the car's advantages are also its disadvantages: The lesser weight and lower height make them vulnerable to heavier, higher vehicles. Historically, pickups and truck-based SUVs have not been as meticulously designed to absorb crash energy, but their weight and height make up for it in crashes with lighter vehicles, whose occupants pay the price.

    Aside from the weight issue, it's a matter of compatibility: A high truck can ride up over the most robust part of a car's frame structure, bypassing its crumple zone and plowing into its cabin.
 

alent1234

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Dec 15, 2002
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Originally posted by: Ornery
...couch, chair, etc.

Want a laugh? Park outside the loading dock at Sears sometime, and watch the parade of econoboxes leaving without their intended cargo. Or watch the nimrods in front of BestBuy, trying to load a TV or floor standing speakers. These wieniemobiles can't even handle a full sized spare tire, let alone chair! By the time the nitwits get done putting their subs and amps in there, they can't even haul clock radio anymore!


i'll just get them delivered

why drag heavy stuff when someone else can do it for me? And it saves me a bundle of cash.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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So my nine passenger Brady wagon should come out on top. It's a lead sled, it has a long wheel base, and it is low to the ground.

It does score very close to the top as the safest thing on the road and no one ever steals them.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: upsciLLion
I'm not one to complain about gas prices, but the next time one of you four banger driving elitist corndogs needs a couch, chair, etc. moved, feel free to tie it on top or drag it behind your car. ;)

Because you buy new furniture so often I guess you really needed that truck huh? :roll:

Nice justification...
 

LordMorpheus

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Aug 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: Freejack2
Hmm lets think here.
Last time I needed a vehicle larger than my car to carry something: 2003
Cost of Uhaul: $40

Approximate total miles driven since then: 70,000
Cost of driving my subcompact car for 70,000 miles divided by 32mpg times an average of $1.80 a gallon: $3937.50

Cost of driving an suv or truck at an average of 18mpg for 70,000 miles at an average of $1.80 a gallon: $7000.00

Cost of driving my car and uhaul rental: $3977.50
Total savings over driving an suv or truck: $3022.50

So this means I've saved about $1500 a year before the savings of lower cost vehicle. My car cost $16,000 new. A similarly equipped SUV or truck would cost me at minimum $26k after some hard bargaining. Over 5 years not even including interest that's an extra $2000 a year.
Figure an extra $200 for maintenance and I'm looking at a grand total of
Drum roll please...
...
$3700 a year!

$3700 a year extra to operate a vehicle that I'll probably need once every 3 years?!?! You have go to be kidding me.

You can get full size pickups that don't drink anywhere near that much gas.