Truck camper shell with roof that can open up?

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fuzzybabybunny

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I don't think what you want is on the market. For that matter, I'm not sure you want the right thing.

If you just want a hole in the roof of the topper, how are you going to get the items in? Really high chain hoist? Crane? Zombie Andre the Giant?

The hole would need to extend all the way to the rear, so stuff could slide in. IIRC, GM briefly made a Trailblazer or something with this, didn't they? I'm guessing it didn't work out.

I would return to what I originally said- essentially, it seems like you want a more standard, easy to open/remove tonneau cover...but with it closed, you want the internal volume of a camper top.

Basically, you need something that functions like a stake-side bed, except closed in, with a removal top. Correct?

Not just a hole. Like you said, a hole that extends to the rear so tall things could slide right in. No hoist necessary.

All I want is a standard hard camper top with a roof that swings open like a pair of double doors. And the resulting opening extends to the rear.
 

herm0016

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get a camper top, cut hole, and install a hard fold up tonneau cover. this would eliminate some problems with sealing and with hinging.
 

jlee

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Build one of these.

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actually, I thought you were talking about Semi tractor trailers, which got me thinking-- what if you sold a Semi cab with a huge sunroof? Every night when you pull off to the side of the road or to a truck stop, you can open up the top and look at the stars.
 

phucheneh

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Right, but where are those doors going to go? They'd have to collapse in, unless you made use of some clever engineering to allow them to hang down on the outside of the truck (then you'd have to secure them so they wouldn't catch air).

The 'steeple topper' or whatever I saw in one of those links would have similar issues. That open triangle would not just let air pass through painlessly...I would bet on that roof getting ripped off eventually. There's gonna be more drag than you'd think.

And again, sealing... a problem. I still vote for 'buy a camper and a soft tonneau cover and combine them creatively.' Be prepared to do welding and/or fiberglass work to reinforce the shell.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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I just sent an email to Jay. I recommended Kickstarter if he needs help funding his idea and said that he's in a fantastic position to make this happen. He's already got a working, tried and true product. Now all he needs is to line up a manufacturer and get better photos and a video made. Kickstarter pre-orders roll in, he takes that money to mass produce, and bam, he's in business.

Asked him about why he won't consider allowing it to slide in or have it be compatible with short trucks.

Jay's automated reply (my name is not Mike):

Mike, I regret to tell you that the patented Quickupcamper&#8482; is still not in production.
The economy is too weak. Meantime, the prototype has gone 20,000 miles under a
variety of test conditions, and has proved to be even better than we expected. It has
averaged about 20 mpg, fully loaded and &#8220;going with the flow&#8221; of normal traffic (~
70mph) wherever we are. We can now claim that it is absolutely stable in gusty, 100 mph
side winds: We encountered those on CA route 395 below the east side of the Sierra. The
highway was closed to trucks, buses and RVs (except ours). Our tests have revealed no
serious flaws. The few minor annoyances (e.g. the sun ate our window shades &#8212;easily
replaced&#8212; will be corrected when we finally get into production. The first
Quickupcampers will probably, be sold complete with full-size, long-bed pickup truck to
be sure everything is done right to ensure quality and prevent lawsuits. Prices will depend
on equipment ordered, but are expected to fall in the mid-range of pickup-based RVs:
about $12.000 nicely equipped as shown, plus the (latest model) suitable truck, ready to
go. We do NOT intend to make slide-in versions, as those must cost much more, are
heavier and have much less storage space inside. When necessary, the shells and interior
can be removed easily in about an hour. We also will not make models that fit
discontinued body styles, nor for compact pickups pickups; they&#8217;re too small to
provide the advantages of the design. As shown, two people would only have to &#8220;come
to shore&#8221; about every 2 to 3 weeks for food, water, and dumping the holding tanks. The
table and couches will serve four adults. The &#8220;Q&#8221; sleeps three adults; two in the huge
bunk and one on the padded, insulated floor. Two kids could sleep in sftermarket bunks
in extended -cab truck models. Thank you for your interest. A new website is under
construction. For a full description see www.quickupcamper.com Note: A production
version will have its own rear panel instead of the ssplit Ford tailgate. In addition to
complete Quickupcampers, we plan to also sell an empty one, fully operating shells only,
with no interior furniture, so that buyers can do their own interiors. Due to the lack of an
available, practical air conditioner, the highly insulated shells must only be white, which
means an interior temperature about 37 degrees F cooler than any other color. As is, in
hot weather, interior temperature is about what it is outside under a tree. Five of the
windows open fully. Winter is cosy because the entire camper is heavily insulated.
Electricity is by a 75 Watt photovoltaic panel, that gives lots of light, and runs the vent
fan and (real) refrigerator.

NOTE: We are open to interesting proposals for producing and distribution. We&#8217;ve
been in many shows and dozens of campgrounds. Thousands of people have come in
and sat down. Most love this design! The original deal fell through with 9/11. It&#8217;s time to
make these things! We&#8217;re not looking for money; we need someone to make these RVs
ready to market. I designed it so that tooling up should be cheap and easy. New processes
should reduce labor costs. New materials should facilitate production. There&#8217;s not been
much really new in the RV field since the 50s. This is it! Your ball.

Jay Baldwin &#8212;designer.
 
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My OP was clear. Is there such a thing on the market? It's a yes or no answer. Instead I get you telling me to "go do my own research."

So you give me a list of alternatives.

We try, you reject any alternative without much reasoning.

I'm confused because you think you'll need to transport "tall objects" (whatever the hell those are) that can't be strapped to roof rails or mounted on a trailer hitch rack, but you also considered a dual-sport bike which has no capacity to transport "tall objects" at all.

Going back to basics and examining the requirements of your vehicle will be much more productive than insisting you need some pre-conceived, yet unavailable, vehicle feature.

What is it that you REQUIRE from this vehicle? What "tall objects" do you anticipate moving? Are you willing to put in a serious amount of time and/or money to build something custom? I'm trying to help you here, fitting solutions to odd sets of requirements is what I do for a living, but you're not giving us much to go on.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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We try, you reject any alternative without much reasoning.

I'm confused because you think you'll need to transport "tall objects" (whatever the hell those are) that can't be strapped to roof rails or mounted on a trailer hitch rack, but you also considered a dual-sport bike which has no capacity to transport "tall objects" at all.

Going back to basics and examining the requirements of your vehicle will be much more productive than insisting you need some pre-conceived, yet unavailable, vehicle feature.

What is it that you REQUIRE from this vehicle? What "tall objects" do you anticipate moving? Are you willing to put in a serious amount of time and/or money to build something custom? I'm trying to help you here, fitting solutions to odd sets of requirements is what I do for a living, but you're not giving us much to go on.

Just think of it as a hard top with a roof that opens. That's it! Would some farmer in Nebraska find such a thing useful? Don't think about my situation. Is there value in a camper shell that you will never have to take off due to the fact that the roof can swing open?

That's all I'm asking. Is there value in it? Is it already being made? Any extra thinking is grossly overanalyzing this thread.
 

JCH13

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Just think of it as a hard top with a roof that opens. That's it! Would some farmer in Nebraska find such a thing useful? Don't think about my situation. Is there value in a camper shell that you will never have to take off due to the fact that the roof can swing open?

That's all I'm asking. Is there value in it? Is it already being made? Any extra thinking is grossly overanalyzing this thread.

I don't think there is much value in it at all.

Virtually anything that one would need to poke through the top of the shell can be laid flat and either hang out of the bed length-wise or be contained by it entirely. This is considerably stable and safer than trying to stand something up when hauling it.

If something truly large needs to be transported, just pull the cap off. Most people I know with a truck cap have invested in the $50-$100 in a hoist so that 1 person can lift the cap off of a truck.

There are also tonneau covers and folding bed caps that have been mentioned in this thread that solve the problem quite effectively.
 
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fuzzybabybunny

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I don't think there is much value in it at all.

Virtually anything that one would need to poke through the top of the shell can be laid flat and either hang out of the bed length-wise or be contained by it entirely. This is considerably stable and safer than trying to stand something up when hauling it.

If something truly large needs to be transported, just pull the cap off. Most people I know with a truck cap have invested in the $50-$100 in a hoist so that 1 person can lift the cap off of a truck.

There are also tonneau covers and folding bed caps that have been mentioned in this thread that solve the problem quite effectively.

Gotcha. So if you had the option of getting a cap that you *had* to take off from time to time or getting a cap that you would *never have* to take off unless you really wanted to, you'd continue to buy the cap that you would *have* to take off.
 

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Gotcha. So if you had the option of getting a cap that you *had* to take off from time to time or getting a cap that you would *never have* to take off unless you really wanted to, you'd continue to buy the cap that you would *have* to take off.

To save the considerable amount of money it would cost to add the "sky doors" to a cap? Yup. I have encountered exactly 0 times when I've wanted to take the cap off of a truck.

Many people use a retractable and removable tonneau cover that takes 2 minutes to fold up and stow in the bed. Many people never use a bed cap in the first place.

this idea targets the group of people who like truck caps (let's say 1/3 for argument's sake, though my experience indicates it's much lower). Then the subset of those people with no access to a garage to install an inexpensive cap lift (5minutes to remove a cap), lets call that a generous 50%. Then the subset of those people who routinely move very large objects where the cap /must/ be removed. We'll call that generously 10%, because who do you know that routinely moves objects larger than 4'x8'x6'? That's 2-3 refrigerators at once!

33%*50%*10% = 1.7% of the truck market MIGHT have an interest in that product. I have a feeling half or less of that segment would pay a premium for the added functionality, so now we're talking <1% of the truck market.

Feel free to futz with those numbers, but you'll soon realize that they're not great.
 

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1. What tall item(s) do you want to put in the bed? That motorcycle, a giraffe, what?

2. Is a portal from cab to bed a deal breaker? Can you live without that?
 

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I have known people who fit upright motorcycles and 4-wheelers under regular caps with the tall bump in the back. I don't know if they will fit all 4-wheelers and all motorcycles, but it's possible if you're careful with your dimensions.
 

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GMC Envoy XUV

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I KNEW IT.

I was starting to think I imagined that vehicle in an LSD flashback or something.

I have known people who fit upright motorcycles and 4-wheelers under regular caps with the tall bump in the back. I don't know if they will fit all 4-wheelers and all motorcycles, but it's possible if you're careful with your dimensions.

One tip, especially for things like ATV's with relatively tall tire sidewalls: deflate the tires, and carry a decent portable compressor with you.
 
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Fuzzybabybunny, my company has what you are asking about. I do
Not want to go into details out of respect for forum rules, how ever you want, if you would like you can contact me for more info.
Thank you Rick

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