Troops on the Ground

Fern

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Well, I scanned the article rather quickly and my impression is that Kerry is just asking for flexibility in the authorization bill. I don't disagree with that.

I wouldn't get too upset about Obama's policy in the M.E. As far as I can tell he doesn't yet have one.

Fern
 

cubby1223

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Why is Kerry wanting to use troops on the ground?

Because if the goal is to eliminate ISIS, troops on the ground is a necessity. But that's just my opinion. You either fight against them, or you don't. Half-assed engagements don't work.
 

rudeguy

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Because if the goal is to eliminate ISIS, troops on the ground is a necessity. But that's just my opinion. You either fight against them, or you don't. Half-assed engagements don't work.

meh...we already tried it both ways.

Time to make a glass parking lot out of the place.
 

BoomerD

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Biggest Warmonger? As compared to the last regime who sent hundreds of thousands of US troops into a country under the cover of lies and mis-truths?
 

Orignal Earl

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We need to help protect the Muslims from the Mormons too.
They are out of control here, a couple just tried to invade my home again a couple weeks ago
 

BoberFett

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We need to help protect the Muslims from the Mormons too.
They are out of control here, a couple just tried to invade my home again a couple weeks ago

I don't know, have you seen Mormon girls? Fake boobs as far as the eye can see, and hot to trot from what I hear.
 

Orignal Earl

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I don't know, have you seen Mormon girls? Fake boobs as far as the eye can see, and hot to trot from what I hear.

They are trying to sucker you in with their fake promises.
It's pretty obvious when a guy is constantly reading posts filled with hate for Blacks and Muslims for example that Mormons are evil
They don't seem to be very smart people either
 

BoberFett

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They are trying to sucker you in with their fake promises.
It's pretty obvious when a guy is constantly reading posts filled with hate for Blacks and Muslims for example that Mormons are evil
They don't seem to be very smart people either

Hate the sin, love the sinner. Especially if said sinner is sporting DD or better.
 

norseamd

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The fact that we are not already using SF in full capacity is pure bullshit. Suggesting that SF being engaged in firefights is going to lead to full scale deployments is ignorant hysteria.
 

Nebor

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The fact that we are not already using SF in full capacity is pure bullshit. Suggesting that SF being engaged in firefights is going to lead to full scale deployments is ignorant hysteria.

SF was being used in full capacity. 3,000 green berets were on the ground doing their primary job, Foreign Internal Defense training. Then the conventional 3-star who was last responsible for training the Iraqis was placed in command of the mission. And then a conventional division headquarters (1st ID) was deployed into Iraq to support the mission.

And the mission will creep from there. Every Army commander wants to lead his unit into combat, and the Army itself wants it in order to justify a bigger budget.

Afghanistan is a great example of a perfect SF mission ruined by a bunch of Infantry and Armor O6s that wanted an OEF ribbon.
 

compuwiz1

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I don't know, have you seen Mormon girls? Fake boobs as far as the eye can see, and hot to trot from what I hear.

My brother had a Mormon GF. She knew more tricks than a porn star. They would still be together if she hadn't pressured him to join the church. He told me the sex was beyond awesome, but that was all they had in common. What's funny is that she claimed she had only been with one guy before him. Daddy must have taught her well! lol

No, we don't need to go back with our soldiers. Let them destroy themselves, but keep them out of here.
 
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Nebor

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I don't know, have you seen Mormon girls? Fake boobs as far as the eye can see, and hot to trot from what I hear.

I dated a Mormon firefighter chick. 6 pack abs and could fireman carry me. Great in bed too, but she was a no-shit Nazi. Hated Jews and gays and thought they should be killed.
 

norseamd

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SF was being used in full capacity. 3,000 green berets were on the ground doing their primary job, Foreign Internal Defense training.

SF are full spectrum philosopher-warriors and they need to be utilized in the most sensible and logical way possible.
 

norseamd

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Then the conventional 3-star who was last responsible for training the Iraqis was placed in command of the mission. And then a conventional division headquarters (1st ID) was deployed into Iraq to support the mission.

The only conventional units that might be considered for deployment to Iraq are logistics and support units who would stay in friendly territory. Otherwise SF and other Special Operations units including Psychological Operations and Civil Affairs are what we will utilize in the fight against the Islamic Jihadists.
 

Nebor

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The only conventional units that might be considered for deployment to Iraq are logistics and support units who would stay in friendly territory. Otherwise SF and other Special Operations units including Psychological Operations and Civil Affairs are what we will utilize in the fight against the Islamic Jihadists.

I'm telling you what has and is actually happening. You seem to have some fantasy of what you think should happen. Two of my friends are in Iraq right now with the 1st ID Division staff. One is a signal officer, the other is an Army Strategist (FA59.) Both are doing normal div staff work: BUBs, WUBs, CUBs, etc.

There's currently a large number of conventional soldiers equipping and training on North Fort Hood for deployment.

You're a fucking idiot. Please, tell me more about the Army. :rolleyes:
 

Nebor

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The only conventional units that might be considered for deployment to Iraq are logistics and support units who would stay in friendly territory. Otherwise SF and other Special Operations units including Psychological Operations and Civil Affairs are what we will utilize in the fight against the Islamic Jihadists.

Conventional GO in command of SF mission.

1st ID HQ deploys to Iraq.

Why don't you do a modicum of research before you open your cock holster? Or at least look at who you're talking to, ya cross eyed retard.
 

Nebor

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SF are full spectrum philosopher-warriors and they need to be utilized in the most sensible and logical way possible.

Full spectrum? Doctrinally SF is only a tiny portion of the spectrum. Have you even read FM 3-05? You might be the dumbest person on this forum. Shut the fuck up.
 

BoomerD

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Full spectrum? Doctrinally SF is only a tiny portion of the spectrum. Have you even read FM 3-05? You might be the dumbest person on this forum. Shut the fuck up.

How dare you question the velocity of his magnitude? He's the mighty Wikipedia Warrior!

:D
 

norseamd

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Full spectrum? Doctrinally SF is only a tiny portion of the spectrum. Have you even read FM 3-05? You might be the dumbest person on this forum. Shut the fuck up.

FID is the primary mission of the SF? No Unconventional Warfare is the primary mission of the SF. They can do reconnaissance and DA also. Since you seem to want to spew insults without actually knowing what the fuck you are talking about yourself how about you eat crow.

You seem paranoid of possible deploying of regular soldiers so you are all fucking boneheaded about the SF being engaged in enemy contact so that is why you are wanting them to do only FID.

And I might just have that book. Bought a Special Operations book plus some basic infantry fieldbook from a local military surplus. Was from some Psy Ops guy who was deployed over ther and now is a mechanic or something. Actually more like hundreds of pages stapled together than actually a real book.
 
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norseamd

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Or at least look at who you're talking to, ya cross eyed retard.

Not sure.

Some ignorant douchebag who promotes hate, political oppression, ethnical cleansing, and possibly even genocide no make that kinslaying of the Samaritans?

Possibly?