Troopergate probe appears to be unraveling

[sportage]

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ANCHORAGE, Alaska - The abuse-of-power investigation of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was unraveling Wednesday, with most key witnesses refusing to testify, new legal maneuvering and heightened Republican pressure to delay the probe until after Election Day.

Can you say NIXON ADMINISTRATION???
Talk about a flash back... whew!

 

[Starbuck1975]

Can you say politically motivated witch hunt.

 

[QED]

Can you say repost?

A thread discussing troopergate is already well under way...

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Can you say politically motivated witch hunt.

The investigation began before she was even a glimmer in McCain's eye. The committee that initiated the investigation has TWO times as many Republicans on it as Democrats.

If she's innocent, why is she hiding like a criminal?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Can you say politically motivated witch hunt.

The investigation began before she was even a glimmer in McCain's eye. The committee that initiated the investigation has TWO times as many Republicans on it as Democrats.

If she's innocent, why is she hiding like a criminal?

Did you read the article??

The guy in charge is a Democrat who is on record saying that the results will be damaging.
He is apparently also a good friend of the guy who was fired.

 

[sportage]

Repost? We need multiple reposts because voters do forget!!!
Elephants, maybe not. Voters, YEP!

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Can you say politically motivated witch hunt.

The investigation began before she was even a glimmer in McCain's eye. The committee that initiated the investigation has TWO times as many Republicans on it as Democrats.

If she's innocent, why is she hiding like a criminal?

Did you read the article??

The guy in charge is a Democrat who is on record saying that the results will be damaging.
He is apparently also a good friend of the guy who was fired.

And the guy Palin hired to replace Monagan was a good friend of hers. In fact, there's an entire NYT article about the cronyism that runs rampant in Palin's administrations in Wasilla and Anchorage, firing the experienced and qualified and replacing them with high school buddies.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Can you say politically motivated witch hunt.

The investigation began before she was even a glimmer in McCain's eye. The committee that initiated the investigation has TWO times as many Republicans on it as Democrats.

If she's innocent, why is she hiding like a criminal?

Did you read the article??

The guy in charge is a Democrat who is on record saying that the results will be damaging.
He is apparently also a good friend of the guy who was fired.

And the guy Palin hired to replace Monagan was a good friend of hers. In fact, there's an entire NYT article about the cronyism that runs rampant in Palin's administrations in Wasilla and Anchorage, firing the experienced and qualified and replacing them with high school buddies.

And yet, she still enjoys an immensely high approval rating from her consituents-- so apparently her choices are working out better than the people she's replaced.

 

[Grunt03]

Liek we didn't see this comeing. I guess GWB must have given them some advice....

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Can you say politically motivated witch hunt.

The investigation began before she was even a glimmer in McCain's eye. The committee that initiated the investigation has TWO times as many Republicans on it as Democrats.

If she's innocent, why is she hiding like a criminal?

Did you read the article??

The guy in charge is a Democrat who is on record saying that the results will be damaging.
He is apparently also a good friend of the guy who was fired.

And the guy Palin hired to replace Monagan was a good friend of hers. In fact, there's an entire NYT article about the cronyism that runs rampant in Palin's administrations in Wasilla and Anchorage, firing the experienced and qualified and replacing them with high school buddies.

And yet, she still enjoys an immensely high approval rating from her consituents-- so apparently her choices are working out better than the people she's replaced.

If the state you lived in got 3x more in federal spending than what it pays in federal taxes, you'd have an immensely high approval for your governor too. Hell, they literally get paid to live there. And guess who's doing the paying?

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Can you say politically motivated witch hunt.

The investigation began before she was even a glimmer in McCain's eye. The committee that initiated the investigation has TWO times as many Republicans on it as Democrats.

If she's innocent, why is she hiding like a criminal?

Did you read the article??

The guy in charge is a Democrat who is on record saying that the results will be damaging.
He is apparently also a good friend of the guy who was fired.

And the guy Palin hired to replace Monagan was a good friend of hers. In fact, there's an entire NYT article about the cronyism that runs rampant in Palin's administrations in Wasilla and Anchorage, firing the experienced and qualified and replacing them with high school buddies.

And yet, she still enjoys an immensely high approval rating from her consituents-- so apparently her choices are working out better than the people she's replaced.

If the state you lived in got 3x more in federal spending than what it pays in federal taxes, you'd have an immensely high approval for your governor too. Hell, they literally get paid to live there. And guess who's doing the paying?

Exactly. Bribe your citizens with the rest of the country's tax dollars and that'll do wonders for your approval rating.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Can you say politically motivated witch hunt.

The investigation began before she was even a glimmer in McCain's eye. The committee that initiated the investigation has TWO times as many Republicans on it as Democrats.

If she's innocent, why is she hiding like a criminal?

Did you read the article??

The guy in charge is a Democrat who is on record saying that the results will be damaging.
He is apparently also a good friend of the guy who was fired.

And the guy Palin hired to replace Monagan was a good friend of hers. In fact, there's an entire NYT article about the cronyism that runs rampant in Palin's administrations in Wasilla and Anchorage, firing the experienced and qualified and replacing them with high school buddies.

And yet, she still enjoys an immensely high approval rating from her consituents-- so apparently her choices are working out better than the people she's replaced.

If the state you lived in got 3x more in federal spending than what it pays in federal taxes, you'd have an immensely high approval for your governor too. Hell, they literally get paid to live there. And guess who's doing the paying?

If it were as simple as this, then please explain why every Alaskan governor hasn't enjoyed such immense popularity.

By your reasoning, who ever is Governor of Hawaii or California should have stratospheric approval ratings, right? After all, what is there to complain about when you live in paradise?

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Can you say politically motivated witch hunt.

The investigation began before she was even a glimmer in McCain's eye. The committee that initiated the investigation has TWO times as many Republicans on it as Democrats.

If she's innocent, why is she hiding like a criminal?

Did you read the article??

The guy in charge is a Democrat who is on record saying that the results will be damaging.
He is apparently also a good friend of the guy who was fired.

And the guy Palin hired to replace Monagan was a good friend of hers. In fact, there's an entire NYT article about the cronyism that runs rampant in Palin's administrations in Wasilla and Anchorage, firing the experienced and qualified and replacing them with high school buddies.

And yet, she still enjoys an immensely high approval rating from her consituents-- so apparently her choices are working out better than the people she's replaced.

If the state you lived in got 3x more in federal spending than what it pays in federal taxes, you'd have an immensely high approval for your governor too. Hell, they literally get paid to live there. And guess who's doing the paying?

Exactly. Bribe your citizens with the rest of the country's tax dollars and that'll do wonders for your approval rating.

You mean, like promising free health care, increase welfare spending, and extending social/welfare benefits to illegal aliens (all paid for with Federal tax dollars) greatly expands the Democratic voting base?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: QED
If it were as simple as this, then please explain why every Alaskan governor hasn't enjoyed such immense popularity.

By your reasoning, who ever is Governor of Hawaii or California should have stratospheric approval ratings, right? After all, what is there to complain about when you live in paradise?

Arnold has abysmal approval ratings.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: QED
If it were as simple as this, then please explain why every Alaskan governor hasn't enjoyed such immense popularity.

By your reasoning, who ever is Governor of Hawaii or California should have stratospheric approval ratings, right? After all, what is there to complain about when you live in paradise?

Arnold does have abysmal approval ratings.

My point exactly.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: QED
You mean, like promising free health care, increase welfare spending, and extending social/welfare benefits to illegal aliens (all paid for with Federal tax dollars) greatly expands the Democratic voting base?

Who's hiring them providing them with more of an incentive to come over?

 

[Stoneburner]

Unravelling or being unravelled?

This really is a pathetic sign. She's irrelevant in the long run but dear jeebus why not just get the crap out of the way?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: QED
And yet, she still enjoys an immensely high approval rating from her consituents-- so apparently her choices are working out better than the people she's replaced.

Not very hard to do when your job is to cash oil company checks and send free money to your voters.

If only the other 49 governors were that lucky.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: QED
And yet, she still enjoys an immensely high approval rating from her consituents-- so apparently her choices are working out better than the people she's replaced.

Not very hard to do when your job is to cash oil company checks and send free money to your voters.

If only the other 49 governors were that lucky.

Dork.

Her predicessor's approval ratings at one point fell below 20%. There must be a little more to it than your sophmoric take on things.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: QED
And yet, she still enjoys an immensely high approval rating from her consituents-- so apparently her choices are working out better than the people she's replaced.

Not very hard to do when your job is to cash oil company checks and send free money to your voters.

If only the other 49 governors were that lucky.

Dork.

Her predicessor's approval ratings at one point fell below 20%. There must be a little more to it than your sophmoric take on things.

Yep, she took a little nibble on those windfall profits and added $1200 to the free money handout.

And she has only been in office for 20 months. First term governors are usually popular before reality sets in. Bush had 80-90% approval ratings at the beginning of his first term.

Also, an Alaska paper said that her current ratings are down to 60% and falling. Maybe news got out that she believes that dinosaurs are 5000 years old and rape victims need to carry their rapist's child to term (after they pay the Wasilla PD $500 to conduct a rape test).

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: QED
And yet, she still enjoys an immensely high approval rating from her consituents-- so apparently her choices are working out better than the people she's replaced.

Not very hard to do when your job is to cash oil company checks and send free money to your voters.

If only the other 49 governors were that lucky.

Dork.

Her predicessor's approval ratings at one point fell below 20%. There must be a little more to it than your sophmoric take on things.

Yep, she took a little nibble on those windfall profits and added $1200 to the free money handout.

And she has only been in office for 20 months. First term governors are usually popular before reality sets in. Bush had 80-90% approval ratings at the beginning of his first term.

Also, an Alaska paper said that her current ratings are down to 60% and falling. Maybe news got out that she believes that dinosaurs are 5000 years old and rape victims need to carry their rapist's child to term (after they pay the Wasilla PD $500 to conduct a rape test).

Try again. Her predecessor was a first term governor and a popular gazillion-term senator before that. His approval ratings sucked. Her's are high. Even after the media anal probe she's been taking for the last few weeks her approval ratings are higher than Obama and McCain nationally and they continue to be high in Alaska.

Bush's 90% approval ratings were a short burst immediately after 9/11 when people were hanging flags in their windows and itching for a fight. It had nothing to do with him being in his first term or his policies or that 'new president' smell. It had to do with an overall coming together of the entire country after it was attacked.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Can you say politically motivated witch hunt.

The investigation began before she was even a glimmer in McCain's eye. The committee that initiated the investigation has TWO times as many Republicans on it as Democrats.

If she's innocent, why is she hiding like a criminal?

Did you read the article??

The guy in charge is a Democrat who is on record saying that the results will be damaging.
He is apparently also a good friend of the guy who was fired.

And the guy Palin hired to replace Monagan was a good friend of hers. In fact, there's an entire NYT article about the cronyism that runs rampant in Palin's administrations in Wasilla and Anchorage, firing the experienced and qualified and replacing them with high school buddies.

And yet, she still enjoys an immensely high approval rating from her consituents-- so apparently her choices are working out better than the people she's replaced.

If the state you lived in got 3x more in federal spending than what it pays in federal taxes, you'd have an immensely high approval for your governor too. Hell, they literally get paid to live there. And guess who's doing the paying?

Exactly. Bribe your citizens with the rest of the country's tax dollars and that'll do wonders for your approval rating.

You mean, like promising free health care, increase welfare spending, and extending social/welfare benefits to illegal aliens (all paid for with Federal tax dollars) greatly expands the Democratic voting base?

Nope, I just mean bribing.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Vic
If the state you lived in got 3x more in federal spending than what it pays in federal taxes, you'd have an immensely high approval for your governor too. Hell, they literally get paid to live there. And guess who's doing the paying?

It's actually more like $1.80+/- for every dollar paid out and the real dollar totals are around $4.4 billion every year. I posted a list of a dozen or so states that pull in several times that amount above what they pay out in another thread.

It's a MYTH that Alaska pulls in so much money from the Fed.

In fact, when you take into account the resource revenues that the Fed owes Alaska but chooses to keep for itself, against the statehood compact, Alaska, despite all its taking taking taking, winds up losing more than it takes in.

In other words, Alaska pays for itself no matter how the numbers get twisted. The Fed gets more from Alaska than Alaska gets from the Fed.

 

[flavio]

Source: Sex Assault Program Cited in Monegan Firing Targeted Child Abusers
By Zachary Roth - September 16, 2008, 4:58PM

So Sarah Palin's latest explanation for why she fired Walt Monegan is that he had gone over her head in seeking federal money for an initiative to combat sexual assault crimes, before she had approved the program.

But it now appears that the program in question is one that most elected officials would be wary of admitting they hadn't strongly backed. According to Peggy Brown, who heads the Alaska Network on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault, Monegan wanted to use the federal money to hire retired troopers and law enforcement officials, and assign them to investigate the most egregious cases of sexual assault -- including those against children.

In other words, if Palin's new story is true, she fired Monegan for being too aggressive in going after child molesters.

ABC News reported yesterday that, although Alaska leads the nation in reported rapes per capita, Palin hasn't made the issue a priority as governor.

Monegan, however, appeared eager to change that. "He seemed to get the issue and really took it seriously," Brown told TPMmuckraker.

According to the Palin camp, too seriously.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi...ssault_program_cit.php

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Vic
If the state you lived in got 3x more in federal spending than what it pays in federal taxes, you'd have an immensely high approval for your governor too. Hell, they literally get paid to live there. And guess who's doing the paying?

It's actually more like $1.80+/- for every dollar paid out and the real dollar totals are around $4.4 billion every year. I posted a list of a dozen or so states that pull in several times that amount above what they pay out in another thread.

It's a MYTH that Alaska pulls in so much money from the Fed.

In fact, when you take into account the resource revenues that the Fed owes Alaska but chooses to keep for itself, against the statehood compact, Alaska, despite all its taking taking taking, winds up losing more than it takes in.

In other words, Alaska pays for itself no matter how the numbers get twisted. The Fed gets more from Alaska than Alaska gets from the Fed.

It's all going to be apples and oranges, which you don't say. While I could raise the issue of per capita, that's not really fair since Alaska is a huge state.

Any fair discussion requires trying to weigh all those factors, its low population, its huge size, and determine what its 'fair' needs are compared to other states.

And all that takes you to the realm of subjective opinion.

Some conclusions can be drawn from especially clear data, but some are less clear.

One thing that does seem clear is that Alaska is not the home of the anti-earkmark crowd. $600 million for a bridge for Palin's hometown of 7,000!?