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sportage said:
But this is now.... What about???
What about 2030 or 2040 when people aren't just complaining about the heat, people are actually dying in the streets from the heat? What happens when across the entire United States feels like Arizona on its worst Summers day? When storms become so violent that city after city are wiped off the map? Tornadoes so distracting that only a Hollywood writer could imagine?
What happens then? When it is too late and climate change is undeniably in everyones face? Climate change right up your nose. We're taking 130-140 Fahrenheit day in and day out. Floods so devastating that even Noah could never have conjured up?
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The only thing I know there will still be people stupid enough to vote for Republicans.
 
A/// said:
don't mind heat as long as it's dry heat. desert life is quite charming. southern humid weather followed by the addiction of syrup masquerading as tea causing people to get fat and it's a stinky situation all around.
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I really hope my sarcasm meter is just broken for today.
 
I heard on the news its supposed to be 110 for two weeks straight in part of arizona right about now. Honestly... we are screwed at this point unless someone creates some massive carbon sequestration technology. I just don't see any major worldwide environmental changes happening fast enough to make a difference.
 
We had one miraculous moment when the world came together to ban CFCs, because we didn’t want most of the world to get skin cancer (and worse).

But, getting the world together to 'ban' oil, natural gas and their derivatives from being used to produce energy is an enormous and more complex an issue than CFCs. Economies thrive on energy and transport. Overcoming this still relatively inexpensive fuel source is going to take longer than any target set by these climate summits. Add to that the inertia of human behavior, and it’s going to be difficult - people will probably be dying by the millions per year before world governments find the ability to make the dramatic laws required to ban the use of oil based products by combustion and simultaneous increase spending to fully develop all the alternative power production and transportation systems to put a stop to increases Green House gas emissions.

Call me a pessimist, but I’ve seen how people and businesses behave when they fear their way of life or livelihood might be threatened - going 'green' has already stoked those fears and many political battles will be fought over this issue before the doing the right thing becomes the only choice. Not just at home, but abroad as well.
 
HomerJS said:
This country is so fucked, if we were under night air attack from Russia and the government told everyone to turn their lights off at night, deplorables would leave them on
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It's true. They probably think "Russia is bad" is just govt propaganda. They will greet their Russian brothers and sisters with open arms. Just before they get slashed and raped (in that order).
 
HomerJS said:
This country is so fucked, if we were under night air attack from Russia and the government told everyone to turn their lights off at night, deplorables would leave them on
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On the flip side, southern conservatives sign up for military service at a disproportionately higher rate, on a per population basis, than northeastern liberals. <shrugs>
 
A/// said:
I lived in Georgia for several years. It wasn't that bad, but we did have central air.
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I lived in Atlanta, GA without air conditioning while going to tech school. It's actually in the foothills of the Appalacians just a touch over 1000 ft. Makes it more moderate than anything east of there. I've been to Kingsland/St. Mary's part of GA several times. It gets hot, and the no seeums eat you alive.
 
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Sunburn74 said:
I heard on the news its supposed to be 110 for two weeks straight in part of arizona right about now. Honestly... we are screwed at this point unless someone creates some massive carbon sequestration technology. I just don't see any major worldwide environmental changes happening fast enough to make a difference.
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I'm blown away how much the San Antonio, Texas area has heated up in the last 15 years. 1998 used to be considered a wildly hot year, so hot that Republicans would always use it as the first year in any of their graphs so they could get a slightly decreasing or horizontal trendline, and that year broke a 50 year old record for most days of 100+ here. In the last 15 years we have tied or broken that 1998 record five times and this year is almost sure to be the sixth. And it's a strong El Nino year, which is supposed to trend us to cooler summers while La Nina is when it's supposed to be hotter than average.

Worst was last month when we had 100s with dewpoints in the high 70s in the hottest part of the day, taking our heat indices into the 120s. And it's not something you can blame just on urban heat islands since the small towns around here have been heating up too. Couldn't believe the heat wave Del Rio had last month, it was even worse than the one we had in San Antonio where we set the all time record for highest heat index ever recorded three times in a span of four days. By the 2060s it's hard to imagine there won't be millions of heat refugees fleeing south and central Texas.
 
Greenman said:
Kind of what I'm getting at. As I recall, 2023 was the drop dead date (I think Greta and Al Gore both stated this). If corrections weren't made by then there was no stopping it. So here we are with runaway global warming and it seems like it's time to start planning for the new normal.
I haven't heard a single mention of living with climate change, who's taking the lead on it?
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Technically there is no point of no return unless we get into a feedback loop where we have runaway warming, in which case the warming would not stop and we'd end up like Venus. Short of that happening, there is always a benefit to reducing emissions, because it goes on a scale from bad to worse, depending on the amount of warming we cause.

We're already adapting for the bad. They just built an 8 foot high seawall in the bay area town I live in. We're preparing for the bad because we can't avoid it. But we can still avoid the worse.
 
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woolfe9998 said:
Technically there is no point of no return unless we get into a feedback loop where we have runaway warming, in which case the warming would not stop and we'd end up like Venus. Short of that happening, there is always a benefit to reducing emissions, because it goes on a scale from bad to worse, depending on the amount of warming we cause.

We're already adapting for the bad. They just built an 8 foot high seawall in the bay area town I live in. We're preparing for the bad because we can't avoid it. But we can still avoid the worse.
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Minor point, there isn't enough CO2 on earth (buried or otherwise) available for a true venusian atmosphere, but it can definitely get to the point where the vast majority of current lifeforms cannot survive.
 
hal2kilo said:
I lived in Atlanta, GA without air conditioning while going to tech school. It's actually in the foothills of the Appalacians just a touch over 1000 ft. Makes it more moderate than anything east of there. I've been to Kingsland/St. Mary's part of GA several times. It gets hot, and the no seeums eat you alive.
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We were about 30 minutes north of atlanta in the suburbs, safe clean area. the entire area in a long span is either old money or high earning white collar or stem. overall good experience but driving into the atlanta back in those days was not fun because of the traffic. We made more than 2x what we paid for the home we bought as soon as the market picked up there. I don't remember how much we paid then but it was in the neighbourhood of between 700-1m. Around 20 years ago. Similar houses on sale are around the 3-6m mark. ridiculous!
 
[DHT]Osiris said:
Minor point, there isn't enough CO2 on earth (buried or otherwise) available for a true venusian atmosphere, but it can definitely get to the point where the vast majority of current lifeforms cannot survive.
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republicans in 30 years: climate change was supposed to hurt the right people not us!

the right people being minorities and the poor.
 
A/// said:
We were about 30 minutes north of atlanta in the suburbs, safe clean area. the entire area in a long span is either old money or high earning white collar or stem. overall good experience but driving into the atlanta back in those days was not fun because of the traffic. We made more than 2x what we paid for the home we bought as soon as the market picked up there. I don't remember how much we paid then but it was in the neighbourhood of between 700-1m. Around 20 years ago. Similar houses on sale are around the 3-6m mark. ridiculous!
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Sounds like Buckhead.
 
hal2kilo said:
Sounds like Buckhead.
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you're a ways bit off but buckhead is a nice place to live. we'd only traveled through a few times but I liked it enough to consider moving to ga long term if the marriage hadn't broken down. the countryside is pristine and remarkable. outside of politics and some crime in the major cities I think it's one of the best states in the us and I've been to many. one of our neighbors was also from out of the state and had lived in wisconsin for most of their life but near some river and it would be a short ferry trip or bridge crossing to have lunch in some river side restaurants in mn. I'm not sure what other states offer such ammenities.
 
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republicans in 30 years: climate change was supposed to hurt the right people not us!

the right people being minorities and the poor.
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What, climate change isn't a hoax or anything - the climate is *always* changing. Isn't that the current mantra - or am I behind the times?

The poor, well, a few programs for those who aren't 'able bodied'. Those not 'able minded' can screw themselves.
 
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