Trinity desktop is already out!

[Homeles]

From the documents i read Amd won't implement PCIe 3.0 till Q4 2013

Their CPUs probably don't have the computational power to handle it, lol.

Edit: these apparently launched on the 13th: http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2012/06...-generation-amd-a-series-apus-to-the-desktop/

 

[borisvodofsky]

well yeah, but i meant for like a retail machine.

oddly the build you put there is basically my current desktop. i got that $15 ECS, a $40 g530, an old case / psu i had laying around, and i bought a 80gb intel 320 for $70 somewhere (not super cheap, but well afraid of sandforce right now due to previous experiences). got a $30 GT 430 on amazon too with the $14 dvd rw from newegg last week to round it out. and $10 for 4gb of ddr3 on ebay


but yeah, for normal mom and pop at costco $500 would be fair anyway considering windows licenses, and they dont know how to build a computer and support etc. the A8-5500 by the way was $750 with a similar config but it came with a monitor

You're actually running the ghetto rocket?? LOL

It would really be served well with a 6870 or 7770. you can probably still return the gt430 to amazon for full refund.

Definitely get another stick of ram though. dual channel is really important for that desktop snappinessness.:thumbsup:

 

[AustinInDallas]

That will sell, because people are dumb, and dumb people think lots of ram makes it FAST!

 

[hans007]

You're actually running the ghetto rocket?? LOL

It would really be served well with a 6870 or 7770. you can probably still return the gt430 to amazon for full refund.

Definitely get another stick of ram though. dual channel is really important for that desktop snappinessness.:thumbsup:

I do have dual channel. Got 2 2gb sticks.

 

[Homeles]

That will sell, because people are dumb, and dumb people think lots of ram makes it FAST!

I probably wouldn't have a job if people figured out that lots of RAM doesn't do shit if you don't use it. We sell RAM like hotcakes.

 

[denev2004]

I probably wouldn't have a job if people figured out that lots of RAM doesn't do shit if you don't use it. We sell RAM like hotcakes.

That's no ture, at least in Windows.

The memory scheduler in Windows is organized as, the amount of data I transfer from HDD/SDD to your memory is based on how much free space you've got in you RAM. For instance, If I open like 10IE Tabs. It might take up 3GB mem in total of 8GB. But on a computer that just has 4GB Ram it would take more than 2GB

 

[nenforcer]

From the documents i read Amd won't implement PCIe 3.0 till Q4 2013

This drives me up the wall. AMD is first to market with PCI-E 3.0 graphics cards but their own platform still doesn't support it.

This makes sense as the leaked A85 motherboards still only show support for PCI-E 2.0. They've added 2 additional SATA 3 6Gbps ports for a total of 8 and more native USB 3 ports but thats it.

This HP product was rushed to market with a Socket FM1 motherboard tweaked to handle FM2 chips. At least it has some decent onboard audio but you can find HP Phoenix desktop PC's not much more expensive than this.

 

[Borealis7]

step 1: buy 699$ HP
step 2: sell all items except CPU+M/B
step 3: Profit!

not gonna work...too expensive! and not even an unlocked CPU

 

[borisvodofsky]

step 1: buy 699$ HP
step 2: sell all items except CPU+M/B
step 3: Profit!

not gonna work...too expensive! and not even an unlocked CPU

Definitely unpossible :biggrin:

 

[borisvodofsky]

I do have dual channel. Got 2 2gb sticks.

I actually have some questions for ya, if you don't mind.

What cpu and memory tweak options are available on that ecs motherboard.

like voltage/ ram timings/ could it do 1600mhz memory?:awe:

 

[Haserath]

Ugh, not even a new southbridge.
I thought that was the reason they would delay until fall, so they can get in some PCIe v3.x love in...

I guess AMD really don't want mid to high-end customers.

Way to drop the ball again AMD!

BTW, I guess they test all their AMD GPUs on intel gear than can do PCIe v3 ?

Why bother with 3.0 when anyone wanting/needing 3.0 won't buy AMD?

 

[happysmiles]

what a joke.

sucky thing is that all the big oems aren't just giving consumers a good deal, I hope Vizio changes that.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Ugh, not even a new southbridge.
I thought that was the reason they would delay until fall, so they can get in some PCIe v3.x love in...

I guess AMD really don't want mid to high-end customers.

Way to drop the ball again AMD!

BTW, I guess they test all their AMD GPUs on intel gear than can do PCIe v3 ?

PCIe 3.0 is handled by the CPU on Trinity, not the chipset. So its the CPU that cant handle PCIe 3.0.

Trinity is also a value product, certainly not highend.

 

[sm625]

That is insanely priced.

I must admit I would take that A10 over a G530. The sad thing is... it would be a tough decision....

 

[blckgrffn]

SemiAccurate insinuated that we (non-oems) don't get any to play with until fall because OEMs bought them all.

OEMs must feel that margins are going to be good on these chips.

I mean, to the non informed: Four Cores! OMG Ghz! Dedicated AMD Graphics!!! USB 3! BIGGER NUMBERS!

Sounds pretty good, I bet - easy to spin via your marketing department.

At least guys who buy these and then drag them to LAN parties will actually be able to play games. At least they don't out and out suck.

 

[Olikan]

That is insanely priced.

I must admit I would take that A10 over a G530. The sad thing is... it would be a tough decision....

really? because a 4.2Ghz trinity would beat the crap of a 2.4Ghz sandy...

 

[borisvodofsky]

really? because a 4.2Ghz trinity would beat the crap of a 2.4Ghz sandy...

Not possibaru on an oem motherboard. :whiste:

 

[Puppies04]

Seems a bit expensive. I don't have a problem with HP systems (made by pegatron anyway) but $699 for that seems like a lot.

yeah damn. I would've thought that would include a 20" 1600x900 led. Dell is giving away those e2011h.

wtf, $700, that's way overpriced.

I agree with the other posters. Too expensive, especially if cant crossfire with new gen graphics cards.

All your arguements are invalid, it has 12 gigs of RAM

Think of all the awesome things you could do with that much RAM.


Man I wish I had that much RAM.

RAM is cool .

 

[Elixer]

Why bother with 3.0 when anyone wanting/needing 3.0 won't buy AMD?

Yes, they won't buy AMD since AMD don't offer it until late next year(!) ?

PCIe 3.0 is handled by the CPU on Trinity, not the chipset. So its the CPU that cant handle PCIe 3.0.

Trinity is also a value product, certainly not highend.

While I do understand that trinity isn't highend per se, they got a huge hole in their roadmap for the mid to high end crowd.
They still could make the chipset support PCIe 3, until the time the CPU is up to speed, at least that would have been a logical choice for people needing the bandwidth, instead of pushing everyone to intel yet again.

 

[ShintaiDK]

While I do understand that trinity isn't highend per se, they got a huge hole in their roadmap for the mid to high end crowd.
They still could make the chipset support PCIe 3, until the time the CPU is up to speed, at least that would have been a logical choice for people needing the bandwidth, instead of pushing everyone to intel yet again.

What good would it do for the chipset to support PCIe 3.0? Imagine the same with an Z77 board and an SB CPU. The 2 GFX slots would be 2.0. And the slot you place...soundcard, NIC etc would be 3.0. Thats just plain silly.

AMD dont have a highend. They have value and lower mainstream.

 

[steelodon]

I was wondering if these CPUs had been released yet. Guess it's just OEM for now.

 

[jacktesterson]

I paid 479 for my A8-3520m Laptop with a blu ray drive. (I added the SSD, removed the blu ray and put it in an enclosure)

 

[piesquared]

Acer Aspire w/ A8 4500M-$529.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=1j4yt5tw6o4xb

 

[Schmide]

That's more like it.

 

[nonameo]

Acer Aspire w/ A8 4500M-$529.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=1j4yt5tw6o4xb

only 1.9ghz? if it were stars that'd be different, but it's not. Seems kind of slow for 529, even if the igp is nice, and it will only be so nice if it's got good ram to go with it(which, being acer I doubt it has anything more than the minimum)