Question Trifecta - new CPU, RAM, and mobo - is this a good set?

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I want to upgrade just the mobo, CPU & ram on my desktop. I'll also get a WD black 2TB drive. Tom's hardware recommends this combo of those three things, are these solid together? This is for video editing and some gaming. I have a GPU for now that's fine.

What do y'all think?
 

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Christmas in June!

I'd pass on the SA510 SSDs. They have 12% one-star reviews on Amazon and you can find a lot of complaints online.
 
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I bought a WD Green SATA 1TB drive for my wife's PC. No complaints, but it's certainly not the fastest.

I bought a Crucial MX500 for my rig when I was building it...had nothing but troubles with it. Ended up returning it to Amazon and got a second WD Black SN770 instead.
Instead of the SATA SSD, why not just get a second NVMe? The board will handle two of them. Gen 4.0 NVMe will be a fck-ton faster than a SATA drive.
 
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manly said:
Christmas in June!

I'd pass on the SA510 SSDs. They have 12% one-star reviews on Amazon and you can find a lot of complaints online.
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The Western digital blue 2tb ssd? I see them having 4.8 stars on Amazon and 2% are one star?

Western Digital 2TB WD Blue 3D NAND Internal PC SSD - SATA III 6 Gb/s, 2.5"/7mm, Up to 560 MB/s - WDS200T2B0A, Solid State Hard Drive https://a.co/d/acQWzRJ
 
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Do you need it today today? Zen 5 announces on Monday, apparently. It's worth waiting to see what the perf is, I believe.
 
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MrSquished said:
The Western digital blue 2tb ssd? I see them having 4.8 stars on Amazon and 2% are one star?

Western Digital 2TB WD Blue 3D NAND Internal PC SSD - SATA III 6 Gb/s, 2.5"/7mm, Up to 560 MB/s - WDS200T2B0A, Solid State Hard Drive https://a.co/d/acQWzRJ
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That discontinued version was great, but it's the SA510 (current version) that has rough reviews:



Not sure what to recommend at this point for a SATA SSD; NVMe has a lot more options to pick and choose from.
 
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manly said:
That discontinued version was great, but it's the SA510 (current version) that has rough reviews:



Not sure what to recommend at this point for a SATA SSD; NVMe has a lot more options to pick and choose from.
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Shit. Cuz that's the one that B&H had. I guess I'm going to have to return them unopened.

Do I just spend the extra bucks and get the Samsung Evos?

Thanks for the heads up.
 
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I'm gonna go with two Crucial MX500 2TB SSd's instead of the WD Blue. I'll have to return those as they already shipped. Not paying the Samsung tax. I have a 1TB Crucial SSD which I've been running windows and all programs off of for the last few years, no issues.
 
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MrSquished said:
I'm gonna go with two Crucial MX500 2TB SSd's instead of the WD Blue. I'll have to return those as they already shipped. Not paying the Samsung tax. I have a 1TB Crucial SSD which I've been running windows and all programs off of for the last few years, no issues.
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In the past, the MX500 was one of the best choices.

BoomerD suggested NVMe; any reason you won't just drop in a good 4TB NVMe SSD and call it a day?
 
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In the past, the MX500 was one of the best choices.

BoomerD suggested NVMe; any reason you won't just drop in a good 4TB NVMe SSD and call it a day?
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I'm using the 2TB WD Black NVMe as my C drive.

I need two 2TB SATA drives because one will be used just for high res photo and video files (dji drone and action cam) while I edit them. I don't want anything else on that drive.
the second 2TB SSD will be for all my other data, plus for any totally finished and edited videos. I have my fundamentals backed up to a cloud and also to an external hard drive, so that is my backup.
 
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MrSquished said:
I'm using the 2TB WD Black NVMe as my C drive.

I need two 2TB SATA drives because one will be used just for high res photo and video files (dji drone and action cam) while I edit them. I don't want anything else on that drive.
the second 2TB SSD will be for all my other data, plus for any totally finished and edited videos. I have my fundamentals backed up to a cloud and also to an external hard drive, so that is my backup.
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Compare the speed differences:

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Crucial MX500 1TB


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WD SN770 2TB NVMe


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WD SN770 1TB NVMe.


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HP EX950 1TB NVMe (gen 3) in the PCI-e gen 3 slot on the board
 

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Compare the speed differences:

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HP EX950 1TB NVMe (gen 3) in the PCI-e gen 3 slot on the board
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It is crazy. I will be running my OS and programs off of an NVMe

If I do end up sticking to the hours of editing videos and will be doing that a lot, then I will buy a 4TB NVMe to handle all video, then I can use the one 2TB SATA SSD for an additional backup drive. Chances are I'll not like the hours of editing enough to do them. So I'm hedging my bets but will get one if it sticks.
 
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igor_kavinski said:
Sorry, saw your post late but this kit is better: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...4gx5m2b6600c32_vengeance_rgb_64gb_2x32gb.html

Lower latency and if you decide to upgrade to Zen 5 next year or even in 2026, the higher speed should help you squeeze more MT performance from the CPU.
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That's exactly what I ended up getting! B&H doesn't carry g skill, So I ended up choosing that exact set you linked. I bought everything from B&H and put it on my B&H card, which is why I didn't try to find the g skill anywhere else
 
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I would suggest not using EXPO or XMP first. Just set the CAS latency to 30 or 32 (if 30 doesn't work) and let all other timings be AUTO at 6000 MT/s. The mobo will automatically negotiate proper timings for a stable operation during the memory training process. First time training can take up to 7 minutes but subsequent boots (even cold boots) should be less than a minute. So you need to wait on a blank screen while the mobo trains the RAM on first boot. It may fail to negotiate a speed on the first boot and then you may end up with DDR5-4400 or even DDR5-3600. Just set the speed to 6000 and only CL to 30/32/34 and everything else should work smoothly.
 
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igor_kavinski said:
I would suggest not using EXPO or XMP first. Just set the CAS latency to 30 or 32 (if 30 doesn't work) and let all other timings be AUTO at 6000 MT/s. The mobo will automatically negotiate proper timings for a stable operation during the memory training process. First time training can take up to 7 minutes but subsequent boots (even cold boots) should be less than a minute. So you need to wait on a blank screen while the mobo trains the RAM on first boot. It may fail to negotiate a speed on the first boot and then you may end up with DDR5-4400 or even DDR5-3600. Just set the speed to 6000 and only CL to 30/32/34 and everything else should work smoothly.
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Appreciate it. I'll build this weekend and have no idea how advanced overclocking has gotten.
 
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MrSquished said:
Appreciate it. I'll build this weekend and have no idea how advanced overclocking has gotten.
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You will probably not need to overclock anything. That's a beast of a CPU for most needs other than heavy multicore workloads for which the 7950X is better suited. Forgot to mention that you will need to put the DIMMs in preferred RAM slots indicated under the slots on the mobo itself or check the manual. That should give you the best signal integrity to maintain stable high speeds at low timings.
 
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igor_kavinski said:
You will probably not need to overclock anything. That's a beast of a CPU for most needs other than heavy multicore workloads for which the 7950X is better suited. Forgot to mention that you will need to put the DIMMs in preferred RAM slots indicated under the slots on the mobo itself or check the manual. That should give you the best signal integrity to maintain stable high speeds at low timings.
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That's what I mean. For my brief reading of reviews of The ram to pick the replacement for the g-skill, It seems like the motherboards figure it all out with the speed of the ram.

The rig I'm running on I built I guess 5 years ago. A lot has changed since then. I'm digging it
 
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MrSquished said:
It seems like the motherboards figure it all out with the speed of the ram.
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I had a G.Skill 5600 kit with Samsung chips which wouldn't play nice with my 12700K and went to max DDR5-4600 CL28 and in a fit of rage, I downclocked it to DDR5-3200 CL17-17-17-something. That was kinda fun to see. Then put in a Hynix 7600 kit from Teamgroup and was able to be mostly stable at 7000 MT/s CL34. Downclocked that to 6000 MT/s CL28 and seems to be rock solid now. The experience was mostly painless with the Hynix kit.
 
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Post MaxxMem2 score?

You gonna bother with curve optimizer?

OCCT is good if you want to benchmark it and compare to their chart of where you stand. If you do, hope you post them here.
 
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igor_kavinski said:
Post MaxxMem2 score?

You gonna bother with curve optimizer?

OCCT is good if you want to benchmark it and compare to their chart of where you stand. If you do, hope you post them here.
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Well first I have to add a bit more thermal paste. I was stingy and my idle temps are too high. Then I'll have to watch a quick tutorial on overclocking, but I'll wait until after I have windows and my proggies all installed and arranged properly
 
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