Trayvon Martin all over again.

[BUTCH1]

25 yr old Ahmaud Arbery was out jogging in Brunswick GA when two white males began to follow him in a pickup and eventually impeded
his path even though he tried to turn around. The son, Travis McMichael jumped out of the truck pointing a loaded shotgun at Ahmaud
and proceeded to shoot him three times when Ahmaud began to tussle with him. Father ans son duo at 1st claimed they caught him "breaking into"
a home then, once the video surfaced said he was 'looking into" open homes under construction.

the local DA deferred from filing charges since the father was once an investigator for the inspector general, another local DA
also deferred and noted he saw 'nothing wrong" with what they did. A Grand jury is supposed to be summoned but will have to wait until mid June due to COV-19.

 

[pauldun170]

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[BUTCH1]

OK, didn't know it had been posted yet, Mod's, please lock.

This significant event well deserves it's own thread.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[esquared]

OK, didn't know it had been posted yet, Mod's, please lock.

I don't know, this may need its own thread.
Same as when Botham Jean was killed in Dallas.
There's going to be a lot to discuss.

 

[eelw]

But sad thing is, this happen in February with no national coverage.

 

[alien42]

"Wanda Cooper, Arbery's mother, told CNN Sunday that when police notified her of her son's death, she was told her son was involved in a burglary and that there was a confrontation between her son and the homeowner and a struggle over a gun."

A Georgia man was chased and killed while jogging, his mother says | CNN

Ahmaud Arbery's mother spoke with Don Lemon Sunday saying her son was not armed.

www.cnn.com

so did the cops lie or were they lied to?

 

[Greenman]

The video of this is pretty telling. Looks like outright murder to me.

 

[esquared]

But sad thing is, this happen in February with no national coverage.

It looks like the video was just released.
Nothing makes headlines like murder on camera.

 

[BUTCH1]

"Wanda Cooper, Arbery's mother, told CNN Sunday that when police notified her of her son's death, she was told her son was involved in a burglary and that there was a confrontation between her son and the homeowner and a struggle over a gun."

A Georgia man was chased and killed while jogging, his mother says | CNN

Ahmaud Arbery's mother spoke with Don Lemon Sunday saying her son was not armed.

www.cnn.com

so did the cops lie or were they lied to?

Lets put it this way, "After the shooting, Gregory McMichael told police he saw the same man "the other night" and that he stuck his hand down his pants on that occasion, leading McMichael to believe he was armed. "
these two will try and concoct any possible reason to convince anyone he looked "dangerous",
here's another gem, "Defenders of the men are also pointing to a shoplifting conviction in Arbery's past ", gee cause a teen who shoplifted five years ago can easily be known as a gun-toting jogger, f-ing sad.

 

[pauldun170]

In a letter sent to a Glynn County police captain, Barnhill wrote that the three men were in “hot pursuit” of a burglary suspect with “solid, firsthand probable cause.”

“It appears their intent was to stop and hold this criminal suspect until law enforcement arrived,” Barnhill wrote. “Under Georgia law this is perfectly legal.”

He references watching Bryan's video. While most have found it damning, Barnhill, who could not be reached for comment, wrote that the footage essentially exonerated the McMichaels. He said it shows Arbery, who was unarmed, attacking Travis McMichael, armed with a shotgun.

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[Jaskalas]

From the trial, Trayvon made it home safe. Then turned around to attack GZ. Closed a distance of at least several houses before pinning him to the ground. Leaving no choice but what followed.

These men chased down a man and directly confronted him.

That's a huge difference in the setup and who should ultimately be responsible for the outcome. These men should be hanged.

 

[nickqt]

From the trial, Trayvon made it home safe. Then turned around to attack GZ. Closed a distance of at least several houses before pinning him to the ground. Leaving no choice but what followed.

These men chased down a man and directly confronted him.

That's a huge difference in the setup and who should ultimately be responsible for the outcome. These men should be hanged.

Both were lynchings.

This one was on tape.

That's the difference.

 

[BUTCH1]

From the trial, Trayvon made it home safe. Then turned around to attack GZ. Closed a distance of at least several houses before pinning him to the ground. Leaving no choice but what followed.

These men chased down a man and directly confronted him.

That's a huge difference in the setup and who should ultimately be responsible for the outcome. These men should be hanged.

Huh?, "made it home safe"?, says who? Zimmerman's defense team with a made to fit timeline?. Since Martin was killed I guess we'll never know.

 

[HomerJS]

From the trial, Trayvon made it home safe. Then turned around to attack GZ. Closed a distance of at least several houses before pinning him to the ground. Leaving no choice but what followed.

These men chased down a man and directly confronted him.

That's a huge difference in the setup and who should ultimately be responsible for the outcome. These men should be hanged.

Unarmed black who had the legal right to be where he was chased down by an armed vigilante.

Sounds pretty similar.

 

[JEDIYoda]

OK, didn't know it had been posted yet, Mod's, please lock.

You done good!! This needed a thread of it`s own!

 

[mxnerd]

Did the father-son duo have license to kill?

 

[KMFJD]

Did the father-son duo have license to kill?

In Georgia apparently the only licence you require is white skin

 

[interchange]

Going back over Trayvon is a huge can of worms. This one is different. While undoubtedly race is relevant to the choices made and the decisions on how to handle the case, I haven't seen anything that clearly makes it relevant to the application of the law.

Guys told the police they grabbed their guns because they thought they needed them. Then they chased a guy on foot using a vehicle. Yelled at him to stop so they could talk and got out of the vehicle with a shotgun in their hands. They clearly created circumstances which they understood were dangerous, and they offered no adequate justification for doing so. Even if the guy was carrying stolen goods, if he wasn't at the time demonstrating he was a physical threat to the safety of someone else, an armed confrontation was not necessary. They therefore made themselves responsible for whatever the outcome was even if they really didn't want to shoot him.

The whole hand in the pants in a previous observation is laughable as justification that he was an imminent threat. His prior criminal record, even if it was actually supportive for the pursuers, is really not relevant unless the guys knew it at the time of pursuit. Even still, it would only be supportive of some other justification for causing the armed confrontation that has not been offered.

 

[Perknose]

I don't know, this may need its own thread.
Same as when Botham Jean was killed in Dallas.
There's going to be a lot to discuss.

Agreed. This is a significant event which well deserves it's own thread.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[brandonbull]

Both were lynchings.

This one was on tape.

That's the difference.

Do you even know what you are talking about? Or what a lynching is?

 

[darkswordsman17]

Do you even know what you are talking about? Or what a lynching is?

You know, this might be a situation where your apparent experience partaking in them does give you some expertise.

My guess? You're being a typical right wing shithead and trying to refute it based on method of killing, which, by the way, doesn't fucking matter. Kinda like you right wing shitheads cried when people correctly called concentration camps what they are because you got offended about being compared to other groups that also use concentration camps.

 

[Homerboy]

Please note, the father in this case is a former police officer and a District Attorney Investigator.
I think that may also have something to do with the case...

 

[Homerboy]

Do you even know what you are talking about? Or what a lynching is?

Do you?

verb
gerund or present participle: lynching; noun: lynching

1. (of a mob) kill (someone), especially by hanging, for an alleged offense with or without a legal trial.
   "her father had been lynched for a crime he didn't commit"

 

[HomerJS]

In both cases gun drawn where the only thing the deceased was guilty of is being black.

 

[HomerJS]

So based on GA precedent its fine for every black gun owner in town to mob up and march to these guys houses to "detain and question them". I'm sure the killers have been doxed by now. I favor that action. After all there is much more evidence the father-son committed a crime then Ahmaud Arbery ever did.