Traveling to Europe for First Time [TIPS?]

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Veliko

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DO constantly apologise for being an American.

DO remind the British that they would be speaking German if it wasn't for your country.

DON'T take your gun with you.

DON'T constantly apologise for being an American if you go to Germany unless they apologise for all that nasty stuff they did during the early and middle parts of the last century.

DON'T express shock and surprise when you realise that the French le Mars Bar tastes the same as a Mars Bar.
 

zinfamous

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haha. don't ever apologize for being born in some country. no one. NO ONE has any control over that. it's ridiculous.

and Germans are awesome people. Far more tolerant and approachable than Parisians. BY FAR.

maybe that sounds ironic, but it really isn't. Their English is better than any other European, in general. The Danish are good. ...it's still better than the English people trying to speak English.

:sneaky:
 

feralkid

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Put your valuables (wallet/camera) in your inner pocket jacket or a zippered pocket/backpack pocket.



Nimble fingers can unzip pockets before you even know someone is there; also the razor blade backpack slit is an old pick-pocket's trick. If you don't have a safe in your room, carry your passport/credit cards with you in a money belt (I know, Zin, but even Rick Steves insists on this, and a proper money belt is worn under your clothes). Keeping small amounts of spending cash available in a front jeans pocket works well.


Thanks for the great post, dr150.
 

rasczak

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So I'll be heading to Europe for Vacation + Study Abroad this summer for 5 weeks. I'll be studying for 4 weeks in France and will be traveling for one more week after that.

Any tips on:

-things I MUST bring
-things I MUST NOT bring
-general suggestions being in a foreign country without knowing native language
-general suggestions traveling alone
-suggestions on some good travel shoes? I'll be walking around A LOT.

I'm Excited!

1. Passport (obviously), another form of ID, an Itinerary (give copies to your family) and travelers checks.

2. American money.

3. start learning some basic phrases now. Things like Hello., How are you? Good Bye, Where is the nearest restroom?, Where is the nearest ATM/Bank, and some other situational phrases/ conversation starters.

4. No input here, I went with my wife.

5. I used teva sandals. They were extremely comfortable. Don't pack too heavy either. My wife and I had hiking packs almost as large as a duffle bag, and it was a nightmare traveling. especially as we started picking up souvenirs, by the end of the trip our bags were almost 50lbs heavier. This was after we stopped by the post office to send some stuff home.


Don't walk around with your wallet in your pocket. Use a money belt. Pickpockets are very adept at spotting tourists. Especially in Rome. I know from experience. Luckily I felt the chick stuff her hand down my pockets and held her hand there. My wife was a bit confused until I told her what REALLY happened lol.

read the OP again, didn't
t realize you would be staying mostly in France.

Bon Jour (formal) - Good Day. Or Hello.
Salut (informal) - hello, good bye
Merci - Thank you
merci beaucoup - thank you very much
je voudrais un/une (enter item here) - I would like...

These few phrases helped me out alot.. I've got more but my French is not coming to me very slowly this morning. I would take a class if you have some time. If not, get a book and tapes. The French are very particular about how their language is spoken (especially some of the older generation.) the younger generation have a pretty good grasp of english. I found most people there very polite and very accommodating. See as much of Paris and the country as you possibly could fit in. Even better, do it with a French girl. ;)
 
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HAL9000

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So I'll be heading to Europe for Vacation + Study Abroad this summer for 5 weeks. I'll be studying for 4 weeks in France and will be traveling for one more week after that.

Any tips on:

-things I MUST bring
-things I MUST NOT bring
-general suggestions being in a foreign country without knowing native language
-general suggestions traveling alone
-suggestions on some good travel shoes? I'll be walking around A LOT.

I'm Excited!

Don't forget about the different plug sockets! Very important.

Take your Visa card, because Europe doesnt take American Express. :(

Definitely this. Make sure you know your pin for your card, as 99% of places in the EU now use chip and pin not signatures

France is excellent, the french are not my favourite, and they (the french) as well as most of europe are not a fan of americans, so don't take the piss. Ever, it will not go down well. Get used to the underground stations in paris, they are so useful and you can get to anywhere pretty much.

Seriously though, the most important one is the credit card pin, very important. Otherwise you will get there with loads of credit cards all useless.
 
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HAL9000

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haha. don't ever apologize for being born in some country. no one. NO ONE has any control over that. it's ridiculous.

and Germans are awesome people. Far more tolerant and approachable than Parisians. BY FAR.

maybe that sounds ironic, but it really isn't. Their English is better than any other European, in general. The Danish are good. ...it's still better than the English people trying to speak English.

:sneaky:

No.
 

HAL9000

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Make sure you know what a litre is or you will be very drunk. Also shots are smaller over here. If you come to the UK (and we hope you will) PM me for a free pint.
 

edro

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Your iPhone will work there, but the data rates are expensive. You can pre-pay for 1 month of International data, but its like $25 for some small amount.

After you're done eating at a restaurant, you have to ask for your check. They will not bring it to you, as they view that as kicking you out and it is rude. Also, they tip much much less in most European countries. 15-20% is huge overkill. It's more like 0-5%.
 

HAL9000

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Your iPhone will work there, but the data rates are expensive. You can pre-pay for 1 month of International data, but its like $25 for some small amount.

After you're done eating at a restaurant, you have to ask for your check. They will not bring it to you, as they view that as kicking you out and it is rude. Also, they tip much much less in most European countries. 15-20% is huge overkill. It's more like 0-5%.

A good addition, but data doesn't have to be that much, I pay about £7pm for unlimited.

Also, in most places in the EU you don't tip bar staff, you can if you want to but most people don't there's no need, a lot of the time if you try and tip in a bar or pub they will stick the money in a charity pot.

I'd say a 10% tip in a restaurant is typical, but only if the service was excellent, for normal service I don't tip.
 

Murloc

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in europe people get real wages, no need to tip people, just leave some coins in restaurants.

Don't look like a dumb and arrogant anglosaxon tourist, and don't talk about how cool your country is, politics, gun legislation and religion.
For an american, social democracy is communism and europeans are all pussies. It's part of the mentality that will look wrong :p
Never assume anything just because in your country it's like that, it's easy to get used to that if you have a whole continent with approx the same culture.
If you go out at night alone (bars etc.), if you get too extrovert with teh wrong people you can get beaten up, just like everywhere. Going out with locals who can actually speak to cool down a situation is a good idea.

For money, I think the easiest solution is to bring a credit card (with pin code ofc, I didn't even know they still used signatures in the US) and a card with no commission (idk how you call them, they're not credit cards and you can get money from it, in europe and north africa they take the postcard everywhere), take money from ATMs when you need it.
In big cities avoid the banlieues, they're the most similar thing to a ghetto in france.
 

TheSlamma

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BRING Euros biatch!....

......Seriously, have a checking account with a bank that ONLY charges the minimum 1% on ATM withdrawals (i.e. Alliant, USAA,etc).

Second, get a 0% transaction fee Visa/MC and use it whenever possible. Charles Schwab or Fidelity AMEX are some options. Visit flyertalk.com for constant discussion on this topic.

Third, have a cheap GSM phone and buy a cheap SIM card for calls. If you have an iPhone or its ilk, you're all set on this end (minus card).

Go to a Mcdonalds, Starbucks, or KFC for FREE Wifi with you smartphone/laptop. You can almost always use it by standing inside/outside the store--even when they're closed!

Get a great guidebook. TimeOut works very good--better than the more poorly researched/incorrect info. Fodors/Frommers.

Carry a medium sized backpack for your waterproof jacket, maps/books, treats/drinks, umbrella. It'll be invaluable!

Use supermarket food to save money on expensive restaurants. You don't need to eat out every day. The sandwiches are better than stateside supermarket sandwiches. Eat at hotel.

Bring medicine for headaches, stomach indegestion, diarrhea. You will get some form of this on your trip. Bring melatonin tabs to adjust quickly to jetlag.

For the plane, bring something to entertain yourself (i.e. Kindle, mp3, video player, book, etc).

Gore-tex low rise athletic/trail/dressier shoes (in effy seasons). Merrell, Vasque, Lowa are great. Look at the ratings on zappos.com.

Don't overpack. Usually you'll take way more clothes than you'll use. I still make this mistake as a travel veteran! Bring more underwear and socks than anything else. Still, you can do laundry there or at the hotel.

Try to bring luggage that'll fit into the plane bins. Checking luggage nowadays is EXPENSIVE!

Put your valuables (wallet/camera) in your inner pocket jacket or a zippered pocket/backpack pocket. Always be aware of your stuff if ANY fuck approaches you asking a STUPID question!

Reasearch the open/close times of places you want to go that day. Make sure they're open. Use hotel concierge to make appts and VERIFY if a museum is open that day. The concierge will be your right hand man for ALL occasions...and it's free!

Set out early to do activities to beat out the tourists/families so get a good nights sleep the night before!

LEARN some key phrases in the country you go to. It'll go a loooong way to breaking the tourist ice. You'll get better service and it'll make it more likely that they'll try harder to please by speaking in their limited English. They'll hate you more if you don't even try as they'll view you as the ignorant American who is arrogantly plowing through their country.

Above all have FUN!!! Have an open respectful mindset to their culture/ways.

Enjoy every minute, as Europe is an AMAZING place to visit!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

I second this info it's all very good.

I would add use a money belt as an alternate location for money.

In Paris just about every subway train will have people panhandling in some way, singing, playing accordion dancing to American rap music. Look and act like you are from Europe and not an American (don't wear team logo shirts for the Raiders etc. ;) )

The common hussel's I have seen are people walking past and picking up a gold ring off the ground and asking if you dropped it then giving it to you and asking for money, or people asking if you speak English then giving you a letter written in English hitting you up for money.. there is no reason for people to approach you, just keep going.

In France laundrymat = http://www.francetravelplanner.com/go/paris/shop/laundry.html , you pay at 1 machine and enter in the number for the machines you are using, make sure you buy your laundry soap first.. load your machine and put the soap in then pay for your machine and start it, you can load the small kg units pretty well, dryers take 2 or 3 cycles worth to get everything dry.

Where do you think you want to go in your 1 week of travel time?
 

HAL9000

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in europe people get real wages, no need to tip people, just leave some coins in restaurants.

Don't look like a dumb and arrogant anglosaxon tourist, and don't talk about how cool your country is, politics, gun legislation and religion.
For an american, social democracy is communism and europeans are all pussies. It's part of the mentality that will look wrong :p
Never assume anything just because in your country it's like that, it's easy to get used to that if you have a whole continent with approx the same culture.
If you go out at night alone (bars etc.), if you get too extrovert with teh wrong people you can get beaten up, just like everywhere. Going out with locals who can actually speak to cool down a situation is a good idea.

For money, I think the easiest solution is to bring a credit card (with pin code ofc, I didn't even know they still used signatures in the US) and a card with no commission (idk how you call them, they're not credit cards and you can get money from it, in europe and north africa they take the postcard everywhere), take money from ATMs when you need it.
In big cities avoid the banlieues, they're the most similar thing to a ghetto in france.

100% This

don't wear team logo shirts for the Raiders etc.

Definitely this, when I see someone walking down the street wearing something like that I think what a cock, and there are people that would go a lot further than thinking it.
 

dr150

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This is some great advice. Thanks!

I do have an iPhone4 with ATT. What would I need to do to get it to work in Europe? I'm quite a techy so I don't mind jailbreaking it, but what exactly do I need to get it to make calls? Would the internet service still work? Or is that a suicide for $$$charges.

1.) Make sure you're in Plane Mode, and change your settings so Data Roaming and use is off. Not doing this can KILL YOU in fees (hundreds of dollars!!!). :eek: This HAS happened to my work colleagues!

I don't know how your plan is set up but make sure your phone ain't locked. ATT can unlock the phone for you (for foreign SIM card use) if you're not an absolute new user to ATT. A foreign SIM card will serve to make local calls if you're in a pinch and not at the hotel where concierge can handle things for you (i.e. restaurant appts).

2.) My preferred method of calling back home is using the WiFi on my Smartphone with a great cheap, reliable calling card.

As an example, last Fall, I've had over an hour call at 1cent/min talking outside a Paris McDonalds back to the States using the McDonalds WiFi at 4AM after a night's worth of partying. It's insane.

Use a good calling card that mates to a VOIP software. Two calling cards that work well (in order of preference):
a.) http://www.yupeephone.com/voip_features/how_to_use.htm
b.) http://www.localphone.com/how_to_call

The services above have recommended FREE VOIP softwares to add to your iPhone on their websites and Yuppee has GREAT customer support to hand hold you in setting-up your phone setting. Test it out at home before using it overseas.

BTW, I use Yuppee as my long distance at home b/c call quality is so good and cheap. The fact that I can do VOIP overseas is just an added great benefit!

3.) For hotels, I recommend using Priceline.com and lowballing bids on their system. Successful lowball bids on Priceline wipe the floor clean against Orbitz, etc. You can literally save thousands of dollars on a trip. Learn about bidding strategies on the forums below.

Use the following successful lowball bid databases:
a.) http://biddingfortravel.yuku.com/ (the best by far IMO)
b.) http://betterbidding.com/

4.) Bring adapters for using your laptop/electronic devices (Frys, Radio Shack, etc). Verify that your devices power supply works overseas (iPhone is no problem) or you could burn out your device.

5.) Make sure when using your backpack to bring it round to your front in the subway/train (main zippers to one side, not up top). Keep it wrapped to your limbs if you fall asleep on the train (even a mini lock on the zipper carrying important shit). Pickpocketers are ruthless in Europe. Stay frosty. No joke! I don't want to make you paranoid, but just be smart about things and you'll be fine.

Be wary if any foreigner approaches you. It could very well be a scam in progress. Politely avoid and move about on your way. Don't engage in conversation.

6.) Photocopy your passport page and Driver's License and have them handy on the internet (on email account in PDF/encrypted). This will help if for any reason you lose your travel docs you can access/print them in an internet cafe for reference use at the US Embassy.

7.) Buy train tix a couple of days in advance as they sell out quickly. Trains are the main mode of travel for many and if you wait to the last minute, you could be SOL.

8.) Wear shorts only at the beach. Europeans view shorts as only for use on the beach, on children or on "zeee American". I would wear them on a really hot day, of course, but if you want to blend in, avoid whenever possible.

9.) Don't carry too much Euros at any given time. You can always go back to the ATM. ATMs in Europe almost always don't charge a fee, which is great! Rely on your credit card (i.e. Schwab Visa) whenever possible.

10.) Before you leave, make sure you contact your bank and credit card companies when/where you'll be travelling. In that manner, you won't be caught with your pants down when trying to access ATM cash and your bank has put a fraud hold on your account! This DOES happen and has happened to most (including me) who don't plan ahead in this regard.

11.) Try to make a printout of free Wifi places (McDonalds, Stabucks, KFC, etc) close to your hotels/environs. It'll save you the hassle of having to constantly ask. Free Wifi is an amazing luxury to have (free calls, on-the-go travel research, email, etc). Use it and abuse it. :D Keep in mind also that at the airport, American fast food places also carry free WiFi.

12.) For tips (i.e. pubs/clubs, events, hostels, etc) on specific cities you visit, you'll find great local flavor info. advice in the forums at:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/
http://www.virtualtourist.com/

13.) Look into travel insurance. It's cheap and takes care of murphy's law stuff that's not covered by your credit card. Two to start off with:
http://www.travelguard.com/#WhyBuy
http://www.travelinsured.com/

And lastly, I do confirm what others have said in this thread that in Paris you will encounter some of the ugliest behavior witnessed. Parisians treat each other like shit (which is alarmingly WTF hilarious), totally over-the-top....and with English speakers, some of these people will go out of their way to be THE douche of all douches. Not everyone in Paris is like this, of course, but you should count yourself lucky if you don't run into a super-douche--50 year olds acting like mean 5 year olds. Regardless, their city is amazing and definitely worth putting up with stupid adults acting like jealous children. Unfortunately for me, every time I've gone to Paris, I've witnessed some flavor of uber-stupidity.
 
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freegeeks

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So I'll be heading to Europe for Vacation + Study Abroad this summer for 5 weeks. I'll be studying for 4 weeks in France and will be traveling for one more week after that.

Any tips on:

-things I MUST bring
-things I MUST NOT bring
-general suggestions being in a foreign country without knowing native language
-general suggestions traveling alone
-suggestions on some good travel shoes? I'll be walking around A LOT.

I'm Excited!

come over to Belgium and I'll buy you a beer
 

OCGuy

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Definitely this, when I see someone walking down the street wearing something like that I think what a cock, and there are people that would go a lot further than thinking it.


Wow how civil of Euros. I can say that I see tourists all of the time here in SoCal, and I couldn't give less of a shit what shirt they are wearing, let alone "go a lot further."

Are you guys a bunch of animals or what?

I generally am intrigued by other cultures and would rather start up a friendly conversation than worry about somebody's t-shirt.
 

HAL9000

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Wow how civil of Euros. I can say that I see tourists all of the time here in SoCal, and I couldn't give less of a shit what shirt they are wearing, let alone "go a lot further."

Are you guys a bunch of animals or what?

I generally am intrigued by other cultures and would rather start up a friendly conversation than worry about somebody's t-shirt.

Really? I'm pretty sure you do have this in america too, I went in a shop and an announcement said "no single colours shirts".... Retarded.
 
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OCGuy

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Really? I'm pretty sure you do have this in america too, I went in a shop and an announcement said "no single colours shirts".... Retarded.

Huh?

The only time you have to be worried about what you are wearing is in a bad part of a city, or attending an Oakland Raiders game (dont have on the other team's jersey) which most Americans and tourists avoid anyway.
 

ElFenix

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Really? I'm pretty sure you do have this in america too, I went in a shop and an announcement said "no single colours shirts".... Retarded.

you're claiming that if you wear a man u or arsenal shirt in the US people will think you're a dick? i've got news for you, neckbeard, it's not your shirt that makes people think you're a dick.
 

Patterner

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Hiking sandal are your friend.

Get a Rick Steve guidebook. You'll stay more cheaply, in smaller places and end up meeting *much* friendlier people than you would otherwise. Lonely Planet writes good guides too, with the added bonus that they indicate where you can wifi even in flyspeck towns.

I definitely second the money belt suggestion. Keep some quick cash in your pants, but keep the larger portion in there, along with your passport.

Learn some French, even if it's only a few phrases; it'll go a long way towards breaking the ice.

If you're not already, become an extrovert. Especially when travelling alone, they really do have more fun.

If you are eating out, don't eat at McDonald's/Burger King/etc. beyond more than once or twice. They do do some things differently over there which is interesting to see; but really, it's the same crap they have over here. Find small restaurants, especially in pedestrian only areas. You'll eat better and meet more locals that way, too.

If you visit somewhere that has a Roman bath, DO EEET! It may take a bit to get past the nudity bit, but you'll feel much better (especially near the end of your trip) and you're quite likely to meet someone willing to strike up a conversation (happened to me twice in Germany).
 

InflatableBuddha

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Nimble fingers can unzip pockets before you even know someone is there; also the razor blade backpack slit is an old pick-pocket's trick. If you don't have a safe in your room, carry your passport/credit cards with you in a money belt (I know, Zin, but even Rick Steves insists on this, and a proper money belt is worn under your clothes). Keeping small amounts of spending cash available in a front jeans pocket works well.


Thanks for the great post, dr150.

This. When I was in Europe, I used a money belt, and I carried small amounts of cash for the day in my wallet which was inside a small shoulder bag ("man-bag" if you will). If you insist on carrying cash on your person, put it in your front pocket only. Never a back pocket or cargo pocket.

Laugh if you want, but I never got mugged or pickpocketed the entire 3 months I was there, but one of my tour guides got picked in Barcelona.

Also, be alert for gypsies who will try to distract you and pickpocket you. They're particularly prevalent in France (Paris), Italy and Spain. Say "Non, merci".
 

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Really? I'm pretty sure you do have this in america too, I went in a shop and an announcement said "no single colours shirts".... Retarded.

You were most likely in a gang area and most gangs use single color shirts to show affiliation. In those kinds of areas, you don't *want* to wear a single color shirt, especially if it's the wrong color. :eek: