Transvestites Glitter at Thailand Pageant

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Sunday, May 8, 2005 7:09 PM EDT
The Associated Press
By ALISA TANG

At the Miss Tiffany Universe pageant _ which boasts dozens of gorgeous, lithe, smooth-skinned contestants _ one thing is undeniable: Thailand turns out some of the most beautiful transvestites and transsexuals in the world.

As contestants glided across the stage in glittering ball gowns Saturday night, one might never have guessed they were all born boys. Only when they open their mouths do their vocal cords reveal the truth.

"Most people can't tell because I'm very petite, but when I talk, they know," said 21-year-old Wararat Saengchai, who started taking female hormones at 14 and underwent sex change and breast implant operations a year ago.

If she keeps quiet, her delicate features could fool anyone. Others must rely on foam-padded bras and girdles to create womanly curves.

Miss Tiffany's, one of the most famous all-male cabaret theaters, has held the annual beauty pageant since 1998 in a gaudy Roman-pillared white building in Pattaya.

Thailand, a predominantly Buddhist country, is widely tolerant of homosexuals, transvestites and transsexuals _ one reason, perhaps, that men who opt for the transformation here are so stunning and convincing.

"Western countries may not give their people the opportunity to change because they can't accept it, whereas here, we do," said Punyapat Daengnoi, 24, who underwent a sex change two years ago. "We become beautiful because we are accepted and can be happy that we can be ourselves."

Many contestants came from rural provinces across Thailand and describe being accepted by their families only after proving that they would be academically and professionally successful, and not a financial burden.

But for others, like the 2005 winner Tiptantree Rujiranon, there needs to be even greater acceptance. Even this pageant _ broadcast live on national television, with a grand prize of $2,500 and a new pink car _ is not enough.

"There are some who still will not come out," 20-year-old Tiptantree said after being crowned early Sunday. "I want 'second-sex' women to be able to live in society like men and women, and have the same rights as people of any other gender."
 

Kadarin

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:thumbsup:

It's great that there can exist a society that respects freedom and tolerance without being bogged down by hatred and religious fundamentalism.
 

Sheepathon

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Interesting first post. The chick on the right probably wouldn't approve of Thailand. The men would get more hits than her.
 

Conky

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
:thumbsup:

It's great that there can exist a society that respects freedom and tolerance without being bogged down by hatred and religious fundamentalism.

Put a sock in it. :roll:

Oh, and welcome back rbloedow! :laugh:

:beer:
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
:thumbsup:

It's great that there can exist a society that respects freedom and tolerance without being bogged down by hatred and religious fundamentalism.

take your religious bashing to P&N
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
:thumbsup:

It's great that there can exist a society that respects freedom and tolerance without being bogged down by hatred and religious fundamentalism.

I guess nothing is wrong and anyone can do anything they want if it feels good :confused:
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
:thumbsup:

It's great that there can exist a society that respects freedom and tolerance without being bogged down by hatred and religious fundamentalism.

take your religious bashing to P&N

so i guess you figure religion and intolerance are one and the same.
 

yukichigai

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
so i guess you figure religion and intolerance are one and the same.
Lemme play Devil's Advocate here: (no, not as Keanu Reeves)

Name one major religion observed in the Western world that doesn't encourage intolerance.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
so i guess you figure religion and intolerance are one and the same.

That would be the point. Everyone is intolerant, some people just haven't figured it out yet. Religion is just a group of people with the same intolerance.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Whats the letter limit on screennames these days?

Yeah I'm wondering now if there is one. New bug in Fusetalk? LOLOL
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Subterranean Homesick Alien
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Subterranean Homesick Alien
HAWT!! Doesn't leave much to the imagination here.

We need to be more like Thailand.

Whats the letter limit on screennames these days?

apparently it's more than twenty-five....

You deserve a big cookie for longest screenname ive seen in a forum.

Yeah, I noticed that too :Q
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
:thumbsup:

It's great that there can exist a society that respects freedom and tolerance without being bogged down by hatred and religious fundamentalism.

I guess nothing is wrong and anyone can do anything they want if it feels good :confused:

In the case of Thailand and acceptance of transsexuals, there is nothing wrong with it. Isn't that what "freedom" is all about? You remember that, don't you? Or is "freedom" to you merely the right to drive an SUV while listening to Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA", but all those who don't conform can go to Hell...
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
In the case of Thailand and acceptance of transsexuals, there is nothing wrong with it. Isn't that what "freedom" is all about? You remember that, don't you? Or is "freedom" to you merely the right to drive an SUV while listening to Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA", but all those who don't conform can go to Hell...

No, that's not what Freedom is about, wrong on both counts.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
In the case of Thailand and acceptance of transsexuals, there is nothing wrong with it. Isn't that what "freedom" is all about? You remember that, don't you? Or is "freedom" to you merely the right to drive an SUV while listening to Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA", but all those who don't conform can go to Hell...

No, that's not what Freedom is about, wrong on both counts.

So then please explain...
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
So then please explain...

Explain why a man going so far as getting breast implants is ok first.

Sure. If that man wants to do that of his own free will (or to take female hormones and grow them naturally), and in doing so makes him happy, then who are you or I to say that it's not ok?
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
:thumbsup:

It's great that there can exist a society that respects freedom and tolerance without being bogged down by hatred and religious fundamentalism.

take your religious bashing to P&N

so i guess you figure religion and intolerance are one and the same.

of course not. But that of course was the implication from his phrasing. i'm personally more up for an open mind rather than being intolerant about religion.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Subterranean Homesick Alien
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Subterranean Homesick Alien
HAWT!! Doesn't leave much to the imagination here.

We need to be more like Thailand.

Whats the letter limit on screennames these days?

apparently it's more than twenty-five....

You deserve a big cookie for longest screenname ive seen in a forum.


That went ages ago to:-

DanTheManWithTheMasterPlan

AKA DanTMWTMP
 

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Lifer
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Wow, you were definately banned and came back with a sig like that.
:Q

EDIT: Ok that was weird... For some reason DivideByZero's sig was attached to the OP, and the OP was the only post when I replied just now.