Transporting nuclear warheads

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pcgeek11

Lifer
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Shrug, none of the things we are talking about are classified. I've read a lot about the nuclear fail-safes on wiki. Granted I'm not sure how they work on missiles since there isn't exactly a keypad on the missile itself but I assume it works in much the same way but requires very special hardware/interface devices making it that much more difficult. If you try to activate it wrongly X number of times (probably 3 like other nukes) the weapon renders itself unusable. The name of the system on US nukes is Permissive Action Link. Funny story, according to a nuclear security expert back in the 70's all of the Minuteman ICBM launch codes were 00000000 because the top guys were concerned they wouldn't be able to get the codes to all of them fast enough if the shit hit the fan.

Like I said, stealing a US nuke would be useful in studying its design and for the nuclear material to build your own bomb but I doubt you could bypass the safety features to make the bomb go boom. Maybe some people in the US who work on them but even that doesn't seem likely.

I am not arguing with you though you seem to think that I am.

The safeguards would be very hard to bypass I agree. It would take a great effort and a large force to steal a nuclear weapon in transit or in storage.

Well if you read a Wiki and are sure nothing is classified then you obviously know much more than I.

I guess I'll just concede and back away from this conversation.

Good day
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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I am not arguing with you though you seem to think that I am.

The safeguards would be very hard to bypass I agree. It would take a great effort and a large force to steal a nuclear weapon in transit or in storage.

Well if you read a Wiki and are sure nothing is classified then you obviously know much more than I.

I guess I'll just concede and back away from this conversation.

Good day

I wasn't arguing with you, my apologies if I came off that way. I was just implying that there should be some non-classified things that you are able to talk about such as the publicly available information about the PAL.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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I wasn't arguing with you, my apologies if I came off that way. I was just implying that there should be some non-classified things that you are able to talk about such as the publicly available information about the PAL.

I May have misinterpreted... My apologies to you.

It is a common misconception that just because unverified information is available in the public domain, then it is OK to discuss it. It isn't, and I would rather not slide down that slippery slope.

As the rules state: " Neither confirm or Deny".

Not trying to be rude, but I have been retired since 1993 and I have no idea what has or has not been declassified. I have no desire to participate in the Federal Penal System. :)
 

Darwin333

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I May have misinterpreted... My apologies to you.

It is a common misconception that just because unverified information is available in the public domain, then it is OK to discuss it. It isn't, and I would rather not slide down that slippery slope.

As the rules state: " Neither confirm or Deny".

Not trying to be rude, but I have been retired since 1993 and I have no idea what has or has not been declassified. I have no desire to participate in the Federal Penal System. :)

Ahh, makes sense. I do take for granted that information is accurate and I never stopped to think that you would have no clue what has been declassified or not. Totally understand that your desire to stay out of the pokey.
 
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Hugo Drax

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I guarantee those are not nuclear warheads nor any fissile materials being transported in any form or fashion.
 

Hugo Drax

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I May have misinterpreted... My apologies to you.

It is a common misconception that just because unverified information is available in the public domain, then it is OK to discuss it. It isn't, and I would rather not slide down that slippery slope.

As the rules state: " Neither confirm or Deny".

Not trying to be rude, but I have been retired since 1993 and I have no idea what has or has not been declassified. I have no desire to participate in the Federal Penal System. :)

(U)All former employees are under NNSA surveillance to insure no discussion of PAL occurs on internet forums. :)
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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I guarantee those are not nuclear warheads nor any fissile materials being transported in any form or fashion.

Really? I mean really really? Really really really? Are you super sure? Super duper sure?

Of course they aren't real bombs silly.
 

Scarpozzi

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It is crazy hard to arm a nuke. IIRC you have 3 shots to enter the right code before the bomb is rendered useless and removing the safeties without the bomb being rendered useless is virtually impossible. It would be extremely valuable to study its design and for the weapons-grade material to make your own bomb but without the proper codes it is virtually impossible to make the bomb go boom.
Not as tough as you think, mac.
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