Transporting nuclear warheads

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Darwin333

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Military cutbacks.

Now they have to use their own vehicles. ;)

Since it's the .gov I'm sure the driver is making serious bank using his own truck. Of course he could make "buy your own island" bank if he decided to take a detour and sold those bad boys off to a willing buyer of which I'm sure there are quite a few. He'd have to retire to a non-extradition country and hire some seriously badass bodyguards to ensure that the CIA doesn't rendition your ass. Maybe save a few to give to a South American country that has been known to refuse extradition so you have a nicer place to retire to. That might be risky though because politicians change but I'd assume they'd have to give both you and the nukes up to gain any real favor with the US so maybe not that risky.

Other than that, get you a nice big ass villa with a harem of hot ass women and live the good life.
 

whm1974

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There have been some articles on this and where and how they are transported.

http://www.latimes.com/sdhoy-this-t...s-across-america-each-day-20170313-story.html
From the article it really looks like the agency needs to be revamped badly and have better funding to perform it's duties. Do nuclear warheads have hardware device that if removed renders the warhead nonoperational? If so I really hope they don't ship those devices with same truck transporting the bombs.
 

Darwin333

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From the article it really looks like the agency needs to be revamped badly and have better funding to perform it's duties. Do nuclear warheads have hardware device that if removed renders the warhead nonoperational? If so I really hope they don't ship those devices with same truck transporting the bombs.

It is crazy hard to arm a nuke. IIRC you have 3 shots to enter the right code before the bomb is rendered useless and removing the safeties without the bomb being rendered useless is virtually impossible. It would be extremely valuable to study its design and for the weapons-grade material to make your own bomb but without the proper codes it is virtually impossible to make the bomb go boom.
 

Darwin333

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After reading that article, while it would be very mundane work, it seems like it would be fairly simple to identify the 43 trucks, follow them to bases or just have the few bases where nukes are stored under surveillance and when they leave and now you know where a nuke is on the open road, when its most vulnerable by far. Little more than a dozen heavily armed guards and the trailer are a metric fuckton easier to deal with then trying to steal them off a military base.

I wonder, why the hell don't they fly them via military aircraft from secure location to secure location?
 

whm1974

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After reading that article, while it would be very mundane work, it seems like it would be fairly simple to identify the 43 trucks, follow them to bases or just have the few bases where nukes are stored under surveillance and when they leave and now you know where a nuke is on the open road, when its most vulnerable by far. Little more than a dozen heavily armed guards and the trailer are a metric fuckton easier to deal with then trying to steal them off a military base.

I wonder, why the hell don't they fly them via military aircraft from secure location to secure location?
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pcgeek11

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I see from this thread that 99.9% of the people have no idea how a nuclear warhead is handled, transported or activated.

Oh as already pointed out the items in the Original Post is not even close.

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Darwin333

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I see from this thread that 99.9% of the people have no idea how a nuclear warhead is handled, transported or activated.

Oh as already pointed out the items in the Original Post is not even close.

LOL

I suppose that you are an expert on nuclear warhead handling, activation, and transportation? If so then by all means, enlighten us.
 

lxskllr

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I suppose that you are an expert on nuclear warhead handling, activation, and transportation? If so then by all means, enlighten us.
I don't know nothin' bout nothin', but my first thought would be fuel pods. How would they work as a weapon? They have two fronts, and no vanes to stabilize in a drop(do they even use bombs like that anymore?). Disregarding the above, what does a bomb weigh; 1k pounds? That's impressive capacity from an F250(?).
 

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I don't know nothin' bout nothin', but my first thought would be fuel pods. How would they work as a weapon? They have two fronts, and no vanes to stabilize in a drop(do they even use bombs like that anymore?). Disregarding the above, what does a bomb weigh; 1k pounds? That's impressive capacity from an F250(?).
Actually from the picture I did think that they look kind of like bombs, and maybe could be jury-rigged into them.
 

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I imagine even if you don't know how to fully activate a nuclear war head, the fact that it has nuclear material in it is dangerous on it's own. You can probably just set it on fire and see what happens. There is most likely some kind of primer and explosive material in there so you'd most likely get some kind of explosion and some nuclear material being released. Easiest way would probably be to run it into a building like a store front, then set the building on fire.

And now I'm on a list for advocating domestic terrorism using stolen nuclear weapons. :p
 

Darwin333

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I don't know nothin' bout nothin', but my first thought would be fuel pods. How would they work as a weapon? They have two fronts, and no vanes to stabilize in a drop(do they even use bombs like that anymore?). Disregarding the above, what does a bomb weigh; 1k pounds? That's impressive capacity from an F250(?).

Oh geez, the OP was meant to be satire but some actual serious discussion has taken place which is what I assumed you were talking about. Carry on.
 

Darwin333

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I imagine even if you don't know how to fully activate a nuclear war head, the fact that it has nuclear material in it is dangerous on it's own. You can probably just set it on fire and see what happens. There is most likely some kind of primer and explosive material in there so you'd most likely get some kind of explosion and some nuclear material being released. Easiest way would probably be to run it into a building like a store front, then set the building on fire.

We have accidentally dropped unarmed bombs from high altitude onto American soil with no mushroom clouds, conventional explosion or radiation leakage. Those were really old bombs too so I highly doubt that anything you recommended would do a darn thing but waste a building wall and some gasoline.

And now I'm on a list for advocating domestic terrorism using stolen nuclear weapons. :p

Naw, you're Canadian and we know yall wouldn't steal, much less use, even a normal bomb so it's all good.
 

lxskllr

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Oh geez, the OP was meant to be satire but some actual serious discussion has taken place which is what I assumed you were talking about. Carry on.
My humor button's been broken lately. Been dwelling on a moron, so I tend to take everything seriously, and assume the worst :^/
 

pcgeek11

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I suppose that you are an expert on nuclear warhead handling, activation, and transportation? If so then by all means, enlighten us.

Yes, I have been involved in quite a bit of nuclear weapons handling storage and activation. I was a missile technician while in the USN 20 years working on Polaris A2 and A3, Poseidon C3 and C4 and Trident D5 Missiles.

I would like to add that I was a qualified nuclear weapons handling supervisor during that time period also.

No, I cannot enlighten you it isn't allowed.
 
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Darwin333

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Yes, I have been involved in quite a bit of nuclear weapons handling storage and activation. I was a missile technician while in the USN 20 years working on Polaris A2 and A3, Poseidon C3 and C4 and Trident D5 Missiles.

I would like to add that I was a qualified nuclear weapons handling supervisor during that time period also.

No, I cannot enlighten you it isn't allowed.

Shrug, none of the things we are talking about are classified. I've read a lot about the nuclear fail-safes on wiki. Granted I'm not sure how they work on missiles since there isn't exactly a keypad on the missile itself but I assume it works in much the same way but requires very special hardware/interface devices making it that much more difficult. If you try to activate it wrongly X number of times (probably 3 like other nukes) the weapon renders itself unusable. The name of the system on US nukes is Permissive Action Link. Funny story, according to a nuclear security expert back in the 70's all of the Minuteman ICBM launch codes were 00000000 because the top guys were concerned they wouldn't be able to get the codes to all of them fast enough if the shit hit the fan.

Like I said, stealing a US nuke would be useful in studying its design and for the nuclear material to build your own bomb but I doubt you could bypass the safety features to make the bomb go boom. Maybe some people in the US who work on them but even that doesn't seem likely.