Traffic ticket quotas are real

[mmntech]

As if you needed me to tell you that. Toronto police have been caught with their pants down after a memo leaked exposing what people have long suspected. Traffic cops have a ticket quota.

“Being a TRU officer comes with its perks; however it also means there are expectations,” says the April 25 memo. “As of this date: the enforcement officers are expected to write a book a day. The accident car officers are expected to produce at least 10 tickets/day if they have no collisions.”

Quotas are "officially" against Toronto Police policy. 😀
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/04/30/traffic-officers-upset-with-quotas-in-torontos-31-division

No shock. The only time I see my local police on the road is the last week of the month. It's a dumb system that just turns police into glorified tax collectors. They need to focus on people driving aggressively or recklessly, not the dude going 10km over the limit.

 

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[brainhulk]

I have a friend who is a motorcycle officer who confirmed it also

 

[0roo0roo]

as adam carolla would say, public servants paid to prey on the citizenry...f***ed up!

 

[EagleKeeper]

How difficult is it to feed the meter and to only drive 5km over the limit?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Here they get around the quota thing by enforcing that a certain % of people that get pulled over have to be issued a ticket.

It basically means that from the 1st-15th you might be able to skate by with a warning for 15mph over, but by the 30th they're ticketing for 9mph over.

 

[God Mode]

Who cares? Shit like this has happened since civilization. No one will do anything.

The people that suffer from these policies are too poor to do anything and the people that can are worried about maintaining what they have and getting more.

 

[Zargon]

As if you needed me to tell you that. Toronto police have been caught with their pants down after a memo leaked exposing what people have long suspected. Traffic cops have a ticket quota.



Quotas are "officially" against Toronto Police policy. 😀
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/04/30/traffic-officers-upset-with-quotas-in-torontos-31-division

No shock. The only time I see my local police on the road is the last week of the month. It's a dumb system that just turns police into glorified tax collectors. They need to focus on people driving aggressively or recklessly, not the dude going 10km over the limit.

in the end they are still ticketing you for breaking the rules

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

in the end they are still ticketing you for breaking the rules

You're missing the point, which is that they're telling the police to focus more on stupid crap like writing tickets to people for going 5MPH over the speed limit instead of catching actual criminals.

 

[amdhunter]

lol. Don't get a ticket in Long Island. A friend got a ticket for not having a valid copy of insurance coverage and needed to provide proof in court.

Now that's OK, his fault, but, they wouldn't take a printed copy, faxed copy or mailed copy of the insurance cards. He needed a letter from his insurance company, on official letterhead, with an ink signature proving he has coverage. LOL.

The city is making it impossible for you to get out of a ticket. Easier to just pay them or lose days in productivity or work.

 

[MotionMan]

in the end they are still ticketing you for breaking the rules

That assumes that some cop who has not met his quota, on the last day of the month, won't pull you over and ticket you for speeding when, in fact, you were not speeding.

MotionMan

 

[lxskllr]

That assumes that some cop who has not met his quota, on the last day of the month, won't pull you over and ticket you for speeding when, in fact, you were not speeding.

MotionMan

It also holds the law as the ultimate truth. The stated purpose of the law(we won't get into the reality) is to increase safety. Blindly following a rule book doesn't increase safety. In fact, it can work against safety. We're thinking animals, and thought should go into our daily lives. If you aren't thinking, you aren't human.

 

[EagleKeeper]

You're missing the point, which is that they're telling the police to focus more on stupid crap like writing tickets to people for going 5MPH over the speed limit instead of catching actual criminals.

There is a division of the police dedicate to catching criminals. Traffic division; that is their job - to enforce the traffic laws.

5mph over is breaking the law - thereofre you are a criminal and fair game to be stopped.

Do not like the law; justify and get it revoked

 

[Zargon]

That assumes that some cop who has not met his quota, on the last day of the month, won't pull you over and ticket you for speeding when, in fact, you were not speeding.

MotionMan

yes concentrate on the 1% to try and discount the 99% of legitimate traffic stops 😛

You're missing the point, which is that they're telling the police to focus more on stupid crap like writing tickets to people for going 5MPH over the speed limit instead of catching actual criminals.

they could write no tickets which would severly impact their budget and cause you to have way less officers to put towards real crime

 

[alent1234]

You're missing the point, which is that they're telling the police to focus more on stupid crap like writing tickets to people for going 5MPH over the speed limit instead of catching actual criminals.

please show me a police department where the homicide and sex crimes detectives are told to go out and write speeding tickets

 

[Red Squirrel]

I know someone who's a cop here and he can confirm it too, though it's not so much a quota, than a suggestion.

Basically, they KNOW that a large majority of drivers speed or break rules, while you can't catch them all, they want you to at least catch NN amount per day, hopefully sending a message to others. One person will tell their friends they got stopped for 10 over, the others may decide to start paying more attention to their speed.

 

[MotionMan]

yes concentrate on the 1% to try and discount the 99% of legitimate traffic stops 😛

Link?

MotionMan

 

[cronos]

How difficult is it to feed the meter and to only drive 5km over the limit?

This.

I agree that it's a dumb memo, but it's 100% within the driver's control whether the police has any reason whatsoever to stop the car.

 

[Sinsear]

I wrote 4 tickets this month; well below my "suggested amount if productivity"; and the powers that be will do what? Nothing, because quotas are illegal.

 

[MotionMan]

This.

I agree that it's a dumb memo, but it's 100% within the driver's control whether the police has any reason whatsoever to stop the car.

This is a little naive, no?

For example, I was once pulled over because the cop had seen me flick a cig out of the passenger side window. A few problems: I do not smoke, the passenger side window was up and it was a crank window, so I did not have the time or opportunity to roll it up. I was clearly pulled over because I was driving a crappy car in a nice neighborhood (I was in school at the time and was on my way home from babysitting for a rich family).

MotionMan

 

[hanoverphist]

You're missing the point, which is that they're telling the police to focus more on stupid crap like writing tickets to people for going 5MPH over the speed limit instead of catching actual criminals.

There is a division of the police dedicate to catching criminals. Traffic division; that is their job - to enforce the traffic laws.

5mph over is breaking the law - thereofre you are a criminal and fair game to be stopped.

Do not like the law; justify and get it revoked

i agree. regardless of the amount over the limit, you willingly took the chance to go that speed. you should deal with the consequences without whining about it.

This is a little naive, no?

For example, I was once pulled over because the cop had seen me flick a cig out of the passenger side window. A few problems: I do not smoke, the passenger side window was up and it was a crank window, so I did not have the time or opportunity to roll it up. I was clearly pulled over because I was driving a crappy car in a nice neighborhood (I was in school at the time and was on my way home from babysitting for a rich family).

MotionMan

i was stopped one time for a busted headlight that mysteriously started working after i stopped. the cop finally admitted that he thought i didnt seem the type to be driving a cadillac, so he stopped me. it was my cadi, and i was 2 blocks from my house. i didnt really complain tho, it was midnight and i was OK with the fact that the cops would stop people in my neighborhood just to make sure they were legit.

that cadillac got stolen out of my driveway a couple years ago. where was that damn cop then? grrr.

 

[cronos]

This is a little naive, no?

For example, I was once pulled over because the cop had seen me flick a cig out of the passenger side window. A few problems: I do not smoke, the passenger side window was up and it was a crank window, so I did not have the time or opportunity to roll it up. I was clearly pulled over because I was driving a crappy car in a nice neighborhood (I was in school at the time and was on my way home from babysitting for a rich family).

MotionMan

I guess nothing is really 100%, so maybe 98.789% or 98.4552% may be more accurate, but I hope you understand what I was trying to say there.

 

[blankslate]

I think we all sort of knew this...

 

[Zargon]

Link?

MotionMan

🙄

dont be so obtuse, I was merely suggesting that more traffic stops are LEGIT than are not,

I'm 5 for 7 on legit traffic stops, 2 were trolling, one was laaaaaaaaaaate at night on college campus

one of the legit ones I was let off anyways with a stern warning for going 30 over on a sportbike.

 

[Nintendesert]

You're missing the point, which is that they're telling the police to focus more on stupid crap like writing tickets to people for going 5MPH over the speed limit instead of catching actual criminals.

You know they arrest a lot of people with outstanding warrants during routine traffic stops.