[TR] Overclocking Intel's Pentium G3258 'Anniversary Edition' processor

[cbn]

To not be forced by Intel to buy a Z chipset board to oc.

Anyways, H series would be a nice fit for the Pentium K. Typical Intel though, no thanks.

You don't need a Z board to OC Pentium G3258.

Here are the list of boards we have found so far:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2389948

 

[cbn]

This pentium should be the best thing for last gen games, considering the OC, as well as getting rid of CPU bound slow-downs, yet it can't even beat a stinking i3@3.5 GHz, especially when it comes to minimum frame rates and frame time variance!?

There must be a different bottleneck, maybe cache, maybe RAM, will an i3 be just as bad with HT turned off? Or maybe they just haven't tested the right stuff. Crysis 3, FFS, a game that nobody bought, and the rest are fairly demanding PC centric games.

Regarding cache, I'm very disappointed that we have yet to see a review site test a 3MB Core i3 vs. 3258.

For whatever reason, all the sites that have used the more expensive 4MB i3s instead.

 

[formulav8]

You don't need a Z board to OC Pentium G3258.

Here are the list of boards we have found so far:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2389948

So Intel is going to sit by and let that continue? Didn't something similar happen last year and Intel quickly ended that on non-z chipsets?

 

[cbn]

So Intel is going to sit by and let that continue? Didn't something similar happen last year and Intel quickly ended that on non-z chipsets?

Apparently, boards kept on Non-Z overclocking. Nothing was stopped.

(I am thinking of the ASRock Fatal1ty B85 Killer as an example)

 

[cbn]

Regarding i3 vs 3MB Core i3, there was this one review:

https://translate.google.com/transl...sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://pclab.pl/art57691.html

Here are some results where OC 3258 beat the 3MB i3:

NOTE: I did not include all gaming results. In some cases 3MB cache i3 did beat OC 3258.

 

[formulav8]

Guess we will wait and see what Intel does then. Would be quite nice if they will allow it, but its hard to picture them allowing it. I don't know why they would make the chipset decide ocing anyways. There are probably quite a few people like myself, who want to oc, but do not want, nor need the Z chipset features. But they try to force you to anyways. So I have personally never bought a K cpu for myself. But if they change their stance on H boards ocing, I would be quite interested.

 

[cbn]

Based on the results I posted in #30, I would like to see 4.5 Ghz Pentium G3258 (Non-Z overclocked using stock cooler) vs. 3MB Core i3.

Is it worth saving $50 to $55 on a budget gaming system?

 

[jana519]

This. You'd have to be a fool to buy a 2T CPU for gaming anymore, regardless of overclocking potential.

No. There are plenty of games besides Crysis 3 that run on 2 cores just fine. Rather than making blanket statements, a better conclusion is go 4 cores if you play modern FPS on high resolutions (1080P and up). 2 cores are still viable for budget gamers, I think. PC games are going in the direction of 4 cores, but we aren't entirely there yet.

 

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

A two core is still a two core i don't care wtf TOMS hardware has to say about it. People flock there by the dozens and he will be a good whore for the FREE hardware they get in return. You think Intel doesn't screen the posted feedback from these sites. I dont think Toms has ever given a bad review of any hardware...................

 

[Madpacket]

Okay after a few more days of testing I can safely say this little processor is a perfect match for my 750 Ti. I've tested a small handful of games all have performed admirably and above expectation. I've backed off my overclock to 4.5 Ghz at 1.275 volts with the stock cooler and it'll go in my HTPC this way. The CPU reaches mid 70's under Prime 95 which I can live with, no need to push those last few hundred Mhz as it's a point of diminishing returns.

Yes there are a few games that perform not so well compared to the competition due to the lack of cores but the majority perform amazingly well.

One thing that's also surprising is the power usage, I've yet to hit over 140 Watts while under intensive gaming and this using a bronze 600W power supply. I'm pretty sure with a better sized /more efficient power supply the wattage would drop to sub 130 watts so you could probably power one of these rigs off a 160W Pico power supply.

I think the real value with this processor is to find a motherboard for cheap. I did okay with my AsRock ITX as it cost me around $130 Canadian after rebate but has a ton of cool features that I wanted plus Broadwell support supposedly and it was only around 30 bucks more than the Asus H97 ITX I was thinking about. Ideally you want to spend under $100 though but that can be tough for people who don't live in the US.

 

[tweakboy]

Great shots,, soo much is happening into the electronic world.. gl

 

[VirtualLarry]

I've backed off my overclock to 4.5 Ghz at 1.275 volts with the stock cooler and it'll go in my HTPC this way. The CPU reaches mid 70's under Prime 95 which I can live with, no need to push those last few hundred Mhz as it's a point of diminishing returns.
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I did okay with my AsRock ITX as it cost me around $130 Canadian after rebate but has a ton of cool features that I wanted plus Broadwell support supposedly

What board are you using? The Gigabyte H61 and B85 boards with non-Z OC, apparently top out at 1.2v, according to posts. If ASRock offers a board with non-Z OC that isn't limited to 1.2v, I would like to know about it.

I was considering their B85M-ITX board myself. Is that the board that you have?

 

[cbn]

What board are you using? The Gigabyte H61 and B85 boards with non-Z OC, apparently top out at 1.2v, according to posts. If ASRock offers a board with non-Z OC that isn't limited to 1.2v, I would like to know about it.

I was considering their B85M-ITX board myself. Is that the board that you have?

Apparently, Asrock H81M-ITX/Wifi can Non-Z overclock.

See page 61 of this owners manual published May 2014:

http://download.asrock.com/manual/H81M-ITXWiFi.pdf

 

[Madpacket]

Sorry I'm using the AsRock Z97E-ITX/ac. I originally planned on grabbing an H81/87 to save a few bucks but this board was not much more and I needed 6 sata ports for my NAS duties. It's an excellent board

 

[know of fence]

[edit] I really hope that Scott from Techreport come through with some additional testing of the Pentium-AE, because FPS averages are meaningless and swamping A CPU with a very high framerate and low graphics settings, may allow for comparisons of overall capability (academic at best), yet says nothing about the actual experience or potential CPU related Frame-rate hiccups at around 60 Hz.

 

[cbn]

[edit] I really hope that Scott from Techreport come through with some additional testing of the Pentium-AE, because FPS averages are meaningless and swamping A CPU with a very high framerate and low graphics settings, may allow for comparisons of overall capability (academic at best), yet says nothing about the actual experience or potential CPU related Frame-rate hiccups at around 60 Hz.

This article had some good take away points about balancing cpu and gpu:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-pentium-g3258-review

(In the future I would like to see processors like G3258, i3-4130, Athlon X4 750k/760K tested with smaller GPUs at lower resolution/detail settings and with larger GPUs at higher resolution/ detail settings. Average frame rate between small GPU/low detail setting and large GPU/high detail setting should come out about the same, but then compare frame time variance.)