[TPU] Asus MARS II GTX-590

[dust]

Ah! So that's where you insert the penis. An uber card & a hot chick. Good deal for $1200.

Not if you don't get to choose which one to keep!

 

[skipsneeky2]

For the kind of person who'll buy 1 or 2 of these cards, price is not a factor.

I would love to own one of these cards over 2 x GTX580 ONLY because it is a special card and (hopefully) a model of good technical design.

for $1,200 i would hope theres no hoping of any kind about its design i would be reading every forum i could and making sure these bad boys aren't popping man

That card has to be sucking up some major wattage i would worry.

 

[skipsneeky2]

You high or?

I didn't see any mention of ASUS doing a 6990, the king of performance, Willis.

These cards cost a lot, but then again they are limited production items, high price for low availability is a given.

If this card has fully enabled clocked gtx580s lets face it, the card is gonna blow the 6990 away.

If not well someone could buy two used 6990s for the same price.
While a cool product im happy with my single gtx580 for the time being.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

If anyone could make it asus would be it. My direct 2 cu 580 is awesome. Ultra quiet, stays in the low 60's with a little fan profile tweaking, and is running at 902mhz on the core at 1.1v. By far the best video card I've ever owned.

 

[Gikaseixas]

You high or?

I didn't see any mention of ASUS doing a 6990, the king of performance, Willis.

These cards cost a lot, but then again they are limited production items, high price for low availability is a given.

Powercolor is doing something similar:
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/19850...70_a_gpu_and_goes_all_in_with_more/index.html

 

[3DVagabond]

If this card has fully enabled clocked gtx580s lets face it, the card is gonna blow the 6990 away.

If not well someone could buy two used 6990s for the same price.
While a cool product im happy with my single gtx580 for the time being.

Depends a bit on resolution run and what you consider blowing the 6990 away. In situations where the cards are stressed enough that the difference in performance will be of use, the 580 hasn't shown itself to be able to really beat the 6970 by very much, if anything at all. When SLI/Crossfired, the slightly better Crossfire performance over SLI often makes up the stagger. Then there's the situations where you have to run at reduced IQ settings because of the 580/590 vRAM limitations. I haven't seen whether this card is going to have 6gig RAM or not. If not, the 6990 will walk away from it at resolutions where these cards are of use.

If anyone could make it asus would be it. My direct 2 cu 580 is awesome. Ultra quiet, stays in the low 60's with a little fan profile tweaking, and is running at 902mhz on the core at 1.1v. By far the best video card I've ever owned.

902MHz on a 580 must give awesome single GPU performance. If you can handle the price of admission, that has to be one of the most desirable gaming cards on the market. It would certainly make me think twice about whether I want these dual GPU cards or Crossfire/SLI, and the associated issues (Although the issues seem to be getting less and less with each generation, in all fairness.) you can have with them. Especially at 1080 where your card's performance should be optimum.

 

[Mezzanine]

My direct 2 cu 580 is awesome. Ultra quiet, stays in the low 60's with a little fan profile tweaking, and is running at 902mhz on the core at 1.1v. By far the best video card I've ever owned.

I agree with that, I have the Direct Cu II in 570 flavor and it's very cool and quiet....amazing card.

 

[SolMiester]

Depends a bit on resolution run and what you consider blowing the 6990 away. In situations where the cards are stressed enough that the difference in performance will be of use, the 580 hasn't shown itself to be able to really beat the 6970 by very much, if anything at all. When SLI/Crossfired, the slightly better Crossfire performance over SLI often makes up the stagger. Then there's the situations where you have to run at reduced IQ settings because of the 580/590 vRAM limitations. I haven't seen whether this card is going to have 6gig RAM or not. If not, the 6990 will walk away from it at resolutions where these cards are of use.



902MHz on a 580 must give awesome single GPU performance. If you can handle the price of admission, that has to be one of the most desirable gaming cards on the market. It would certainly make me think twice about whether I want these dual GPU cards or Crossfire/SLI, and the associated issues (Although the issues seem to be getting less and less with each generation, in all fairness.) you can have with them. Especially at 1080 where your card's performance should be optimum.

eh, really?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=305
We all know the 6xxx has better memory bandwidth, however thats all it has over the 5xx series, as any resolution under 25x16, the GTX card is all over it. There is no doubt in my mind the GTX is a better GPU, however its let down at high res due to memory bandwidth...

 

[3DVagabond]

eh, really?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=305
We all know the 6xxx has better memory bandwidth, however thats all it has over the 5xx series, as any resolution under 25x16, the GTX card is all over it. There is no doubt in my mind the GTX is a better GPU, however its let down at high res due to memory bandwidth...

Did you purposely not read my entire post just to try and disagree with it. I said, "Depends a bit on resolution run and what you consider blowing the 6990 away" in the sentence right in front of the one you highlighted. It's foolish to buy these +400W monstrosities to run less than 2560*1600. At that resolution and above, the performance advantage of the 580 diminishes. It's not just because of memory bandwidth either. It happens well before the 580 runs into any kind of vRAM wall. Then add Crossfire scaling a bit better than SLI with these GPU's and I'm saying that even 2x full clocked 580's aren't guaranteed to "blow away" a 6990. Add to that (note I said add to it, not because of it) the smaller memory buffer and you have a card that is going to make you limit the IQ settings you run so as not to run out of vRAM.

 

[CFP]

902MHz on a 580 must give awesome single GPU performance. If you can handle the price of admission, that has to be one of the most desirable gaming cards on the market. It would certainly make me think twice about whether I want these dual GPU cards or Crossfire/SLI, and the associated issues (Although the issues seem to be getting less and less with each generation, in all fairness.) you can have with them. Especially at 1080 where your card's performance should be optimum.

This. I just got a 580 after months of deliberating. Couldn't be happier. 930 @ 1.15, fan never goes up 60 and temps never above 70. I never hear it when I game.

I was going to put this thing on water but the surprising quietness of it has made me rethink that.

Also, at my res (1680) this is absolutely the best single GPU to get.

 

[nanaki333]

got mine reserved!

 

[3DVagabond]

got mine reserved!

Is there someone taking pre orders? How much?

 

[SolMiester]

Did you purposely not read my entire post just to try and disagree with it. I said, "Depends a bit on resolution run and what you consider blowing the 6990 away" in the sentence right in front of the one you highlighted. It's foolish to buy these +400W monstrosities to run less than 2560*1600. At that resolution and above, the performance advantage of the 580 diminishes. It's not just because of memory bandwidth either. It happens well before the 580 runs into any kind of vRAM wall. Then add Crossfire scaling a bit better than SLI with these GPU's and I'm saying that even 2x full clocked 580's aren't guaranteed to "blow away" a 6990. Add to that (note I said add to it, not because of it) the smaller memory buffer and you have a card that is going to make you limit the IQ settings you run so as not to run out of vRAM.

Have you not checked the performance of the 3gb models then?....It is memeory bandwidth thats holds these back

 

[3DVagabond]

Have you not checked the performance of the 3gb models then?....It is memeory bandwidth thats holds these back

GTX580 = 192.4 GB/sec memory bandwidth (http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-580-us.html)
HD6970 = 176.0 GB/sec memory bandwidth (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desk...6970/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6970-overview.aspx#2)

Increasing the memory from 1.5 gig to 3.0 gig will not increase memory bandwidth. Sorry, but I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.

 

[SolMiester]

GTX580 = 192.4 GB/sec memory bandwidth (http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-580-us.html)
HD6970 = 176.0 GB/sec memory bandwidth (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desk...6970/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6970-overview.aspx#2)

Increasing the memory from 1.5 gig to 3.0 gig will not increase memory bandwidth. Sorry, but I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.

Oops sorry, got the terminology wrong there...its vRam, im trying to find an article i read on the 3 v 1.5 version.....tea time, so will have to come back to this...

Oh, and the 6970 bandwidth has nothing to do with this, its different architecture, so not sure why you put that in?

 

[3DVagabond]

Oops sorry, got the terminology wrong there...its vRam, im trying to find an article i read on the 3 v 1.5 version.....tea time, so will have to come back to this...

Oh, and the 6970 bandwidth has nothing to do with this, its different architecture, so not sure why you put that in?

Well mate, if you don't know why I put the 6970 in there I don't know why you said this.

eh, really?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=305
We all know the 6xxx has better memory bandwidth, however thats all it has over the 5xx series, as any resolution under 25x16, the GTX card is all over it. There is no doubt in my mind the GTX is a better GPU, however its let down at high res due to memory bandwidth...

This is the post where you quoted me and gave the superior memory bandwidth of the 6xxx as the reason for it's high resolution performance and started this whole conversation.

So, what are we talking about?

Seriously though, from what I've read the reason for Fermi not scaling as well as Cypress/Cayman as resolution goes up is "texture fill rate", which is down to the GPU, not the amount of vRAM.

 

[Epsilon-Zero]

That's a much much much much much much better picture of the........yes ok the card

Jebus the card is bigger than she is. She looks like shes stressing to just hold it up

 

[Keysplayr]

Jebus the card is bigger than she is. She looks like shes stressing to just hold it up

No, it isn't. And she looks as at ease as anyone could be.
Gross exaggeration runs rampant!!

 

[nanaki333]

Is there someone taking pre orders? How much?

nope. i just know some fellas that will hold one when they see it arrive

 

[skipsneeky2]

If anyone could make it asus would be it. My direct 2 cu 580 is awesome. Ultra quiet, stays in the low 60's with a little fan profile tweaking, and is running at 902mhz on the core at 1.1v. By far the best video card I've ever owned.

Are those temps with the fan on stock speed?

I was originally gonna buy the direct cu 2 myself, but my local frys had only one left and it was a returned one.

Don't touch returned items so i was forced to go evga.
But iv'e had nothing but good luck with evga so heck not the end of the world.

 

[Madcatatlas]

eh, really?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=305
We all know the 6xxx has better memory bandwidth, however thats all it has over the 5xx series, as any resolution under 25x16, the GTX card is all over it. There is no doubt in my mind the GTX is a better GPU, however its let down at high res due to memory bandwidth...

Glad theres no doubt in your mind... haha.

You should like the second revision that came out with 3 gb ram, which should clear all doubts in your mind really. You know, the revision that fixed it from being a turd of a card, an exploding and "non-overvoltable" one at that.

An lets not forget the 6xxx series absolutely beats the 5xx series to goo in terms of CrossFire scaling. Thats two things. lets not mention Eyefinity with 1 card..

 

[SlowSpyder]

Oops sorry, got the terminology wrong there...its vRam, im trying to find an article i read on the 3 v 1.5 version.....tea time, so will have to come back to this...

Oh, and the 6970 bandwidth has nothing to do with this, its different architecture, so not sure why you put that in?

I thought it was pretty well accepted that the reason the 6970 closes in on the GTX580 as resolution increases is because of texture processing power. The GeForce GTX580 is rated at 49.4 GigaTexels/sec. The Radeon 6970 is rated at 84.5 GigaTexels/sec. This starts to limit the GTX580 at higher resolutions.

I think these cards (the MARS II GTX590 and Sapphire's 6990) are pretty cool, but I think they also show just how badly 28nm is needed. 40nm has been pushed pretty far, the result is these upper end uber cards with three eight pin connectors.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Are those temps with the fan on stock speed?

I was originally gonna buy the direct cu 2 myself, but my local frys had only one left and it was a returned one.

Don't touch returned items so i was forced to go evga.
But iv'e had nothing but good luck with evga so heck not the end of the world.

Temps are on tweaked fan settings but fans are still quieter than the reference I owned.

 

[at80eighty]

Jebus the card is bigger than she is. She looks like shes stressing to just hold it up

not really. chicks like those go to the gym a lot, remember?

 

[pcm81]

If this card has fully enabled clocked gtx580s lets face it, the card is gonna blow the 6990 away.

If not well someone could buy two used 6990s for the same price.
While a cool product im happy with my single gtx580 for the time being.

If you know where i can buy a 6990 without the 6 weeks lead time, let me know, i need a 3rd one...