tpms ?

[7window]

you guys think its okay to remove the tpms and just replace with regular valves?

 

[leper84]

Regular valve stems will fit but your car will notice. Either you'll get the flashing tire symbol on the dash and it will stay on while youre driving... or if you have a driver information center like on GMs it will harrass you every second you're driving about servicing the tire monitor.

But it won't make any difference to the wheel or tire.

 

[IronWing]

TPMS - an alpha release that was nowhere near ready for mass deployment let alone a mandate.

 

[Sidekicknichola]

You don't need them, but the dash warning is annoying as shit.

I bought new rims and figured I could transfer them (but one wouldn't come off), so I just ran without them for a tire cycle rather than pay NAPA prices for new ones.

... Lexus dealer could not over-ride the error either since it was a "safety feature"

 

[Jumpem]

It's against the law to disable them.

 

[jlee]

It's against the law to disable them.

Not exactly - per NHTSA it's illegal to disable the warning lamp. However, apparently the sensors are fair game:

http://www.tirereview.com/Article/5...ir_on_tpms_regs_and_plussizing_conundrum.aspx

 

[ThatsABigOne]

Not exactly - per NHTSA it's illegal to disable the warning lamp. However, apparently the sensors are fair game:

http://www.tirereview.com/Article/5...ir_on_tpms_regs_and_plussizing_conundrum.aspx

Still stupid.

 

[jlee]

Still stupid.

Three of my vehicles don't even have TPMS.

Guess that's stupid too, huh...I'd better sell them and get something that'll nanny-monitor me to safety.

 

[phucheneh]

TPMS - an alpha release that was nowhere near ready for mass deployment let alone a mandate.

TPMS: A system that is constantly accused of being shitty when the vast majority of failures are caused by people, not parts failure.

I think 95% would be a conservative estimate for problems caused by someone removing/installing a tire. And fix-a-flat.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Both of my cars have them but my bike does not. It would actually be much more useful on the bike.

 

[jlee]

TPMS: A system that is constantly accused of being shitty when the vast majority of failures are caused by people, not parts failure.

I think 95% would be a conservative estimate for problems caused by someone removing/installing a tire. And fix-a-flat.

My Tundra had it - stopped working the day I bought it (or very shortly thereafter). I never fixed it (dealer quoted a new controller for it - not just a sensor). My CTS-V's have been fine..had to replace one (dead battery). ~$67 after tax and it lasted 8 years - granted I may have three more fail soon, but I really can't complain about that.

 

[LTC8K6]

A mandated safety device should have a long warranty.

 

[phucheneh]

A mandated safety device should have a long warranty.

Yeah. Like the extended warranty on airbags.

...oh, wait, that doesn't exist. ;P

 

[LTC8K6]

Yeah. Like the extended warranty on airbags.

...oh, wait, that doesn't exist. ;P

I think that belts and airbags must be at least 5/50.

 

[phucheneh]

IIRC only belts have a mandated warranty period. Air bags are only covered in the initial bumper-to-bumper. And front bags are required by the government. Not sure about deactivation, but I think there's some law there, too.

Point being, the requirement on TPMS is for the manufacturer to include it. I don't think anyone is going around handing out fines to people with broken tire sensors. Likewise, you're not gonna get in trouble for having your air bag light on.

But I'd still recommend people ATTEMPT to keep these systems working. It never ceases to baffle me how hard some people rail against TPMS.

'I don't need some computer to let me know I've run over a small piece of road debris and punctured a tire, bra. I just know.'

Although I'm still happy to mock people who 'have blowouts.' That's read as: drive on a flat tire until it explodes. Yes, someone with half a brain should be able to tell when one of their tires is damn near completely flat. But that doesn't mean the system is worthless. Personally, I appreciate the early warning. It ain't saving my life...but I appreciate it.

I have no doubt that it HAS saved a lot of lives, though. And some of those retards might have harmed me as their car cartwheeled down the road. So I appreciate that, too.

 

[LTC8K6]

I hated the TPMS system in my brother's Jeep. It was just a light. You couldn't tell which tire it was, or how low it was.

I like the system in my Jeep because it tells you which tire is low, including the spare, and it also shows you the 4 tire pressures.

 

[phucheneh]

I hated the TPMS system in my brother's Jeep. It was just a light. You couldn't tell which tire it was, or how low it was.

I like the system in my Jeep because it tells you which tire is low, including the spare, and it also shows you the 4 tire pressures.

I'm the opposite way. I highly dislike the tire readouts, as they're rarely correct. No one's relearning tire/wheel locations after rotating.

Ideally, when the light comes on, I want someone to stop the damned car and check their tires. When the locations are marked, I tend to see people check ONE tire. What's that? The left front tire is fine. This thing must be broken. *drives off with flat left rear tire*

Also, people are stunningly bad with 'left' and 'right.'

 

[Fenixgoon]

Not exactly - per NHTSA it's illegal to disable the warning lamp. However, apparently the sensors are fair game:

http://www.tirereview.com/Article/5...ir_on_tpms_regs_and_plussizing_conundrum.aspx

i put a boost gauge in front of my TPMS light

 

[jlee]

I'm the opposite way. I highly dislike the tire readouts, as they're rarely correct. No one's relearning tire/wheel locations after rotating.

Ideally, when the light comes on, I want someone to stop the damned car and check their tires. When the locations are marked, I tend to see people check ONE tire. What's that? The left front tire is fine. This thing must be broken. *drives off with flat left rear tire*

Also, people are stunningly bad with 'left' and 'right.'

Solution? Drive a car with super sticky rear tires and never rotate them. :awe:

 

[LTC8K6]

I'm the opposite way. I highly dislike the tire readouts, as they're rarely correct. No one's relearning tire/wheel locations after rotating.

Ideally, when the light comes on, I want someone to stop the damned car and check their tires. When the locations are marked, I tend to see people check ONE tire. What's that? The left front tire is fine. This thing must be broken. *drives off with flat left rear tire*

Also, people are stunningly bad with 'left' and 'right.'

Relearning after rotation or replacement is automatic on my Jeep, even with the spare. I don't have to do anything.

 

[NutBucket]

Its a good system for ignorant drivers...or about 90% of the people on the road. If it prevents one of them one from crashing into me I'll put up with it. I check my tires month anyway.

 

[JCH13]

Some people will take the TPM sensors and toss them in a pressurized container somewhere on the car and just use whatever wheels they want.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Its a good system for ignorant drivers...or about 90% of the people on the road. If it prevents one of them one from crashing into me I'll put up with it. I check my tires month anyway.

My wife will come home every once in a while complaining that her tire pressure sensor light is lit. Even if the tire is a couple psi below normal it will go off. Unfortunately I have to check each tire because it doesn't tell you which one is low. I check and fill them to the correct level and the goes light dark.

Never had a sensor failure in almost 7 years of ownership.

My car will actually tell you what the pressure is in each tire but it doesn't show you which tire is on which corner of the car... thanks Toyota. :whiste:

My Maxima didn't have TPMS so I checked them every couple weeks.

I check my bike generally before each ride or if I haven't checked in a few days.

 

[WilliamM2]

If it told you which tire had which pressure, it would have to be reprogrammed every time you rotate the tires.

 

[JCH13]

If it told you which tire had which pressure, it would have to be reprogrammed every time you rotate the tires.

Unless the vehicle had 4 receivers, one near each wheel.

Or one receiver with 4 directional antennae.

Or some idea that no one has thought of yet.