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Toyota to cover engine residue costs on U.S. autos

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Hot damm, I knew I was right, and it was even toyota. 😀

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Toyota and Lexus owners manuals stipulate oil changes every 7,500 miles or six months, whichever comes first, under normal driving conditions, and 5,000 miles or four months under severe driving conditions


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Hmm...let's see here. 13,000 miles - 3800 miles = 9200 miles between oil changes! Unless she's using Amsoil and a bypass filter, 9200 miles if FAR longer than any auto manufacturer recommends.


I hardly think 1700 miles over what toyota recommends (22%) is FAR over. Start talking 5-7K miles, then you have a case, and so might toyota.
 
That is good news to hear a company covering their stuff..... now hopefully they do the same thing with that 4.7 😉 <---- yep I'm not gonna let that POS go burnin at 50K miles 🙂
 


<< That is good news to hear a company covering their stuff..... now hopefully they do something with that 4.7 😉 <---- yep I'm not gonna let that POS go 🙂 >>


Is it only your GF's truck that you keep bitchin' about or have you seen others blow up at "the track" ?) 😛
 


<< Is it only your GF's truck that you keep bitchin' about or have you seen others blow up at "the track" ?) 😛 >>


Only one has shown up at the truck for Truckfest, no blow up there 😉

GF's parents smokes like a turkey on startup...

I have driven two, his and one Seqouia they are wanting to now buy in it's place, and I'm trying to talk him out of it. both were gutless wonders until they hit 3000RPM, I keep reminding him of the tow rating of the 5.3 and with the money he is willing to spend the 6.0 in the Denali.
 
you can go 3000-4000 miles on regular oil, 7000 miles on FULL SYNTHETIC. i SERIOUSLY doubt that the woman had full synthetic in there. she went 9200 miles on 3000 mile oil.

yes. THAT is toyota's fault.
 
This is sheer silliness, and I think a lot of you have bought into the hype of oil manufacturers, who obviously want to sell as much oil as possible. There is no such thing as "3,000 mile oil," and no modern car needs its oil changed more often than every 5,000 miles under normal driving conditions. If the complainant here failed to change her oil for 9,200 miles, that is bad on her, but I would expect that to take its toll in terms of limiting the engine's service life before an overhaul, rather than causing the engine to fail with less than 20K miles.

The other thing that many of you are not addressing is that several of the complainants in the article cited in the previous thread did change their oil as required by Toyota, and still suffered the oil sludge problem.
 
When I bought my new engine from Sean Hyland my warranty sheet told me I had to change the oil every 1500 miles or have no warranty. I would imangine Sean's operation is too small for the oil companies to care, but he does what his experience has taught him. I will listen to him. 3000 miles on a standard engine is just the rule of thumb. I would rather pay 25 bucks every 3000 thousand, instead of three grand when the engine screws up.

Mill
 


<< When I bought my new engine from Sean Hyland my warranty sheet told me I had to change the oil every 1500 miles or have no warranty. I would imangine Sean's operation is too small for the oil companies to care, but he does what his experience has taught him. I will listen to him. 3000 miles on a standard engine is just the rule of thumb. I would rather pay 25 bucks every 3000 thousand, instead of three grand when the engine screws up.

Mill >>


yeah thats the cost to us high performance guys, lots of carbon. I can still hit 3K on mine and still change out okay oil.... I'm very glad to have a self contained Supercharger though, and it's great to see more centrificals starting to have their own reservoir also (Novi, D-1SC)
 


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<< When I bought my new engine from Sean Hyland my warranty sheet told me I had to change the oil every 1500 miles or have no warranty. I would imangine Sean's operation is too small for the oil companies to care, but he does what his experience has taught him. I will listen to him. 3000 miles on a standard engine is just the rule of thumb. I would rather pay 25 bucks every 3000 thousand, instead of three grand when the engine screws up.

Mill >>


yeah thats the cost to us high performance guys, lots of carbon. I can still hit 3K on mine and still change out okay oil.... I'm very glad to have a self contained Supercharger though, and it's great to see more centrificals starting to have their own reservoir also (Novi, D-1SC) >>


LAUST, what's your take on oil changing for normal vehicles like Camrys, Accords, Civics, Corollas, or just about any "factory" vehicle that hasn't been modified?
 


<< you can go 3000-4000 miles on regular oil, 7000 miles on FULL SYNTHETIC. i SERIOUSLY doubt that the woman had full synthetic in there. she went 9200 miles on 3000 mile oil.

yes. THAT is toyota's fault. >>




how do you know what kind of oil she was using? And please show me where you got the information that you can go 7500 (not 7000!) only on synthetic oil. I find that hard to believe.
 


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<< you can go 3000-4000 miles on regular oil, 7000 miles on FULL SYNTHETIC. i SERIOUSLY doubt that the woman had full synthetic in there. she went 9200 miles on 3000 mile oil.

yes. THAT is toyota's fault. >>




how do you know what kind of oil she was using? And please show me where you got the information that you can go 7500 (not 7000!) only on synthetic oil. I find that hard to believe. >>


go to your local pep boys and read the back of the quarts for the regular and synthetic oils. you don't change your oil yourself do you?

and how do i know what kind of oil she was using? 1) if she changed it herself, she would have known that she can't drive 9000+ miles REGARDLESS of what kind of oil she put in, and 2) my friend has a camry, and the dealer uses regular.
 


<< me wonders how the posts here would be different if it was ford doing the exact same thing? >>


Ditto.

Anyways, Toyota deserves a real big pat on the back for this one
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But it's still good to see them handle this issue, not doing so would've been a PR nightmare.
 


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<< you can go 3000-4000 miles on regular oil, 7000 miles on FULL SYNTHETIC. i SERIOUSLY doubt that the woman had full synthetic in there. she went 9200 miles on 3000 mile oil.

yes. THAT is toyota's fault. >>




how do you know what kind of oil she was using? And please show me where you got the information that you can go 7500 (not 7000!) only on synthetic oil. I find that hard to believe. >>


go to your local pep boys and read the back of the quarts for the regular and synthetic oils. you don't change your oil yourself do you?

and how do i know what kind of oil she was using? 1) if she changed it herself, she would have known that she can't drive 9000+ miles REGARDLESS of what kind of oil she put in, and 2) my friend has a camry, and the dealer uses regular. >>





WTF are you talking about? Its clearly stated in the article that Toyota recommends changing the oil every 6 months or 7500 miles. What the back of the quarts of oil say is irrevelant! Of course they will quote a lower figure, they want to sell more oil.
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Still waiting for you to show me where toyota specifies that you MUST use synthetic oil. In fact, you admit your friend's dealer uses regular oil, so that only bolsters my argument that its indeed OK to use regular oil and go 7500 miles/6 months on a (newer?) toyota.
 


<< Just remember to change the oil every 3,000 miles. You don't need to put any fancy oil treatment additives (i.e. Prolong, Z Max, etc.), just plain 10-30W for cars under 90K, 10-40W for cars under 130K and 10-50W for car above 130K. >>

hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I used your advice my car would be dead right now. 10w-30 in a car that the manufacturer recommends 20w-50 in. hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
i own a camry. owners manual recommends oil changes every 7500 miles for regular driving and 5000 miles for severe driving.

it is what toyota recomends for the cars they sell.
 
Oh well, lying or not, they're still fixing it. Consumers still benefit. Our 2002 Camry 6 seems to be doing quite fine... haven't heard of anyone else having a problem. How common is this problem I'm wondering? I mean theres already so many Camry's out on the road... haven't heard of any complaints....
 


<< WTF are you talking about? Its clearly stated in the article that Toyota recommends changing the oil every 6 months or 7500 miles. What the back of the quarts of oil say is irrevelant! Of course they will quote a lower figure, they want to sell more oil.
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Still waiting for you to show me where toyota specifies that you MUST use synthetic oil. In fact, you admit your friend's dealer uses regular oil, so that only bolsters my argument that its indeed OK to use regular oil and go 7500 miles/6 months on a (newer?) toyota. >>



dude, the 7500 miles/6 month that's in the users manual is in a perfect environment where there is no dirt and the car is running at a constant RPM. in the real world, that doesn't happen. there's stop and go traffic and cold starts and dirt. these conditions factor into how the oil behave in an engine. when you're doing all highway miles, you can get away with 5k on dino oil, but otherwise, 3k is a safe recommendation for the general public who don't know/care that much about their cars. if that woman with the sienna took her van in every 3k miles, i promise you the sludge won't be as bad.
 
My brother has only changed the oil like 3 times on his '94 camry. still running well after 150K miles. i don't recommend it, but at this point why should he put money into changing his oil?
 


<< My brother has only changed the oil like 3 times on his '94 camry. still running well after 150K miles. i don't recommend it, but at this point why should he put money into changing his oil? >>


I'm sorry, but that is just stupid🙂

Why SHOULD he put his money into it? So the car doesn't DIE tomorrow.
 


<< I'm sorry, but that is just stupid

Why SHOULD he put his money into it? So the car doesn't DIE tomorrow.
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if it was gonna die it would have already done so. as far as he's concerned he's got his moneys worth 7 years and 150k miles. you figure he saved himself $35 / oil change that's 1750.00 🙂 he saved.

the car is not burning oil, engine is running smoothly, no backfiring, no compression problems. on what would you base this So the car doesn't DIE tomorrow comment? do you have prescience w/ regards to car engines?
 


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<< I'm sorry, but that is just stupid

Why SHOULD he put his money into it? So the car doesn't DIE tomorrow.
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if it was gonna die it would have already done so. as far as he's concerned he's got his moneys worth 7 years and 150k miles. you figure he saved himself $35 / oil change that's 1750.00 🙂 he saved.

the car is not burning oil, engine is running smoothly, no backfiring, no compression problems. on what would you base this So the car doesn't DIE tomorrow comment? do you have prescience w/ regards to car engines? >>


I'm saying that 50,000 miles on a change of oil is grounds for beatdown
 


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<< I'm sorry, but that is just stupid

Why SHOULD he put his money into it? So the car doesn't DIE tomorrow.
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if it was gonna die it would have already done so. as far as he's concerned he's got his moneys worth 7 years and 150k miles. you figure he saved himself $35 / oil change that's 1750.00 🙂 he saved.

the car is not burning oil, engine is running smoothly, no backfiring, no compression problems. on what would you base this So the car doesn't DIE tomorrow comment? do you have prescience w/ regards to car engines? >>


I'm saying that 50,000 miles on a change of oil is grounds for beatdown >>



Not on a Toyota! Their engines run so clean and don't burn any oil...the oil you take out 5k km later looks new. Those damn engines can run forever on oil changes done once a year.
 
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