Toyota recalls 160,000 Prius hybrids

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: zoiks
You shouldn't buy a car just because it was made on American soil. But if you're going to chastise domestic manufacturers just because they're American, that shows that YOU are a fvcktard. Talking about concepts, how about self indulged bigotry.

So I'm a bigot because I prefer to employ my neighbors, as opposed to people half way around the world?

You're a bigot because you eat spam.

 

An electrical problem on one of these drivable computers, no way.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: Papagayo
I would love to buy an American car, but the build quality of the American Cars can't compare to Japanese or European cars..

Did you just wake up in 1985 or what? There are many Japanese and European cars made in the US, so are you talking about those too? Because when those cars were built in the US their quality didn't go down...

You'd be better off to mention specifics or at least brands.

 

[Cattlegod]

Toyota can't handle the increase in production. They are getting too large for their own good, now the quality is tanking.

 

[sniperruff]

well at least they are quick to admit the possible problems and offer recalls.

 

[Random Variable]

When I got my Prius in August the software problem was already well-known.

 

[whalen]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Aimster
I don't think this is a big problem.
It's a software glitch. It is fixable.

Even if the problem does happen, the person can drive a good few miles with the electric engine.

It's not like some of the reports ive read on other recalls.. fires.. transmission failures..etc.

transmission failures, like Acura's little issue?

And fires, like the CR-V?

Those two were exactly what I was thinking.

I don't understand why people ignore stuff like that though. People will continue to polish Honda's good name even though they have just as many touchy recalls.

Honda tranny failures are still relatively low percentage wise. I am willing to bet money that the failure rate of the supposedly afflicted V6 hondas is no worse than average ford, GM, chrysler products. It maybe higher than usual for a honda product, but I seriously doubt you can say with any certainty that it is worse than industry average.

Engine fires on the CR-V are simply because of sloppy oil changes. The oil filter sits near the exhaust manifold, you do a sloppy job and you have a hazardous condition. This is hardly an engineering failure. I own a car with the same engine, every oil change on this car I have done myself and I have never once had a problem.

Wouldn't putting the oil filter too close to the exhaust manifold in the first place be considered an "engineering failure"?

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Captain_Howdy

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: zoiks
You shouldn't buy a car just because it was made on American soil. But if you're going to chastise domestic manufacturers just because they're American, that shows that YOU are a fvcktard. Talking about concepts, how about self indulged bigotry.

So I'm a bigot because I prefer to employ my neighbors, as opposed to people half way around the world?

And I'm sure that computer you're using to type that was made in america too? :roll:
And it's not like Americans don't get money from buying imported goods, ever heard of tariffs? I mean, surely the government uses that money for the good of the people right? :laugh:

I said "I prefer" to employ Americans. I don't always get my way.

I don't think we have many real tariffs or quotas any more. The general consensus among both parties is that "free trade" with impoverished 3rd world countries and communist regimes, both with inexpensive, exploitable labor, is the way to go.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: sniperruff
well at least they are quick to admit the possible problems and offer recalls.

Originally posted by: Random Variable
When I got my Prius in August the software problem was already well-known.

That's not exactly quick

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: whalen

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Aimster
I don't think this is a big problem.
It's a software glitch. It is fixable.

Even if the problem does happen, the person can drive a good few miles with the electric engine.

It's not like some of the reports ive read on other recalls.. fires.. transmission failures..etc.

transmission failures, like Acura's little issue?

And fires, like the CR-V?

Those two were exactly what I was thinking.

I don't understand why people ignore stuff like that though. People will continue to polish Honda's good name even though they have just as many touchy recalls.

Honda tranny failures are still relatively low percentage wise. I am willing to bet money that the failure rate of the supposedly afflicted V6 hondas is no worse than average ford, GM, chrysler products. It maybe higher than usual for a honda product, but I seriously doubt you can say with any certainty that it is worse than industry average.

Engine fires on the CR-V are simply because of sloppy oil changes. The oil filter sits near the exhaust manifold, you do a sloppy job and you have a hazardous condition. This is hardly an engineering failure. I own a car with the same engine, every oil change on this car I have done myself and I have never once had a problem.

Wouldn't putting the oil filter too close to the exhaust manifold in the first place be considered an "engineering failure"?

As an engineer, i say yes.

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: sniperruff
well at least they are quick to admit the possible problems and offer recalls.

Originally posted by: Random Variable
When I got my Prius in August the software problem was already well-known.

That's not exactly quick

if it's too fast then it wouldn't be a recall at all.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: sniperruff
well at least they are quick to admit the possible problems and offer recalls.

Originally posted by: Random Variable
When I got my Prius in August the software problem was already well-known.

That's not exactly quick

if it's too fast then it wouldn't be a recall at all.

You can never bee too fast when you're trying thinking of people's safety

 

[Warthog912]

Originally posted by: virtueixi
They are also recalling this guy's balls.

LOL

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: whalen

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Aimster
I don't think this is a big problem.
It's a software glitch. It is fixable.

Even if the problem does happen, the person can drive a good few miles with the electric engine.

It's not like some of the reports ive read on other recalls.. fires.. transmission failures..etc.

transmission failures, like Acura's little issue?

And fires, like the CR-V?

Those two were exactly what I was thinking.

I don't understand why people ignore stuff like that though. People will continue to polish Honda's good name even though they have just as many touchy recalls.

Honda tranny failures are still relatively low percentage wise. I am willing to bet money that the failure rate of the supposedly afflicted V6 hondas is no worse than average ford, GM, chrysler products. It maybe higher than usual for a honda product, but I seriously doubt you can say with any certainty that it is worse than industry average.

Engine fires on the CR-V are simply because of sloppy oil changes. The oil filter sits near the exhaust manifold, you do a sloppy job and you have a hazardous condition. This is hardly an engineering failure. I own a car with the same engine, every oil change on this car I have done myself and I have never once had a problem.

Wouldn't putting the oil filter too close to the exhaust manifold in the first place be considered an "engineering failure"?

It's not close enough to cause a problem directly. It only causes a problem when sloppy oil changes leaves oil on/near the exhaust manifold.

Again, I have never had a problem doing my own oil changes, but I've seen the sloppy ass jobs some shops do, leaving oil all over the engine. This is hardly a Honda specific problem.

 

[DanDaMan315]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: DanDaMan315
:thumbsdown:Japanese Cars:thumbsdown:

Originally posted by: Kilgor
If this was a GM recall you would have 90 fanbois in here calling GM cars junk. But since this is ATOT you allready have 2 people in Apologizing for Toyota. 🙂

So true, we need more Americans buying American. Your job may depend on it!

My Camry was built in Kentucky by American workers😕

Yea, making $13 an hour.

UAW :thumbsdown:

Honestly if American auto makers didn't have to put up with the UAW's bullsh!t I believe domestic cars would be much better. Domestic cost structure is horrible, and I think the UAW isn't helping...at all.

edit: O yea and as far as I know american workers for japanese car companies aren't unionized, unlike their american car company counterparts. However japanese workers for japanese car companies are unionized. Japan needs to be fair (not screw america over) and have unrestricted free trade.

 

[RU482]

I've had 80's and 90's Oldsmobiles and Pontiacs that had fewer and less major problems than the one toyota I owned (which was only 4 years old)