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Toyota moving jobs from California

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spidey07

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This is what happens when the cost of doing business is simply too much and other states are much more competitive. You incent business and productivity with low taxes, not punish them.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ajLTtivbycos&pos=7

The automaker may shift U.S. product planning, accounting, travel and data services from its sales company near Los Angeles to Kentucky or Michigan, where its North American engineering and assembly units are based, the people said. Details may be decided over the next several months, said the people, who declined to be identified because the plans aren’t public.
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Well, we have the highest taxes and the most union friendly state government so = jobs leaving. The sad thing is we don't have a rich "Wall Street" to get jobs from like NY has.
 
They're moving to Kentucky and Michigan because their real estate is cheap because no one wants to live there.
 
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They're moving to Kentucky and Michigan because their real estate is cheap because no one wants to live there.
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Personally I'm just the opposite, I'd much prefer Kentucky or Michigan to California.

G-d's country > bowl of granola.
 
First said:
They're moving to Kentucky and Michigan because their real estate is cheap because no one wants to live there.
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I would bet if you looked you would find that Kentucky and Michigan are giving multi-million dollar subsidies/credits/shakedown fees to Toyota to lure the business there. The little guy in business actually has to pay for the government handouts to big business in our so-called capitalist system (true under either Dem or GOP).
 
Thump553 said:
I would bet if you looked you would find that Kentucky and Michigan are giving multi-million dollar subsidies/credits/shakedown fees to Toyota to lure the business there. The little guy in business actually has to pay for the government handouts to big business in our so-called capitalist system (true under either Dem or GOP).
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They do that to lure the jobs. The state more than makes up for their "investment" by the taxes on those jobs/income.
 
I'd like to see 90% of the state's population move out. There is nothing more sickening than to run into some up tight high pressure New York, King of Egos type fucking up our laid back California sunshine culture.

California is for people who enjoy being for the sake of being. You want to make something of yourself, go fuck yourself somewhere else.
 
Thump553 said:
I would bet if you looked you would find that Kentucky and Michigan are giving multi-million dollar subsidies/credits/shakedown fees to Toyota to lure the business there. The little guy in business actually has to pay for the government handouts to big business in our so-called capitalist system (true under either Dem or GOP).
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This.

Ain't America grand?

I think North Carolina 'invested' over a billion dollars in Dell, Apple and Google (Dell is closing their plant and agreed to return something in the range of $40 million IIRC).

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Their headquarters here is in the same city as I am. If this is going to happen that sucks for us I guess. Nissan already bailed out of Torrance, I guess Toyota is next.
 
Tennessee paid a shit ton of money (Thanks Bredeson... our democratic governer FTL) to get Nissan to move their headquarters to Tennessee.

But I know the Nissan employees that came from California liked purchasing 3000 square foot homes that cost about 1/2 the price of the broom closets they were living in.

Nissan made money on the move. Sold their land in Cali which paid for the land here + a spanking new campus. Plus all the employees got money from the good taxpayers of Tennessee to move their belongings.
 
Robor said:
Meh, you can have the bible belt!
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I would move there in a second (well if my wife could get a good job and i could sale the house). I love the area.

What really turns me off is the bible thumpers. The majority of the poeple are very nice and kind though.
 
I always thought that a smart move would be to move Silicon Valley to the southeast. Cupertino area etc. costs so much to liver there. Billions of savings moving to somwhere less expensive. I bet the employees would move also...
 
Chunkee said:
I always thought that a smart move would be to move Silicon Valley to the southeast. Cupertino area etc. costs so much to liver there. Billions of savings moving to somwhere less expensive. I bet the employees would move also...
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You mean like Raleigh, NC?
 
rudder said:
Tennessee paid a shit ton of money (Thanks Bredeson... our democratic governer FTL) to get Nissan to move their headquarters to Tennessee.

But I know the Nissan employees that came from California liked purchasing 3000 square foot homes that cost about 1/2 the price of the broom closets they were living in.

Nissan made money on the move. Sold their land in Cali which paid for the land here + a spanking new campus. Plus all the employees got money from the good taxpayers of Tennessee to move their belongings.
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Yeah, Thump is right, states and cities have to buy new manufacturing and hope they come out ahead on taxes and overall economic health, and Tennessee's no different. People I know from California and New York and similar places are mostly tickled pink to be in Tennessee, although for some reason the New Jersey people seem bound and determined to recreate everything that is killing their own state.

I have to disagree on Bredeson though - I didn't vote for him (I went to high school with Van Hillary and have a lot of respect for him and his intellect) but I think he's been a pretty good governor, all things considered. Even though I'm much closer to the Republicans than the Democrats, Tennessee hasn't had much luck with Republican governors, except maybe Alexander.
 
fleeing from the eco-KOOKS and massive regulation. and thats what the eco-KOOKS want anyway. they want all human activity to come to a standstill.
 
Moonbeam said:
I'd like to see 90% of the state's population move out. There is nothing more sickening than to run into some up tight high pressure New York, King of Egos type fucking up our laid back California sunshine culture.

California is for people who enjoy being for the sake of being. You want to make something of yourself, go fuck yourself somewhere else.
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That will happen soon enough. With your infrastructure crumbled you can truely live for the sake of being in the wilderness.
 
Moonbeam said:
I'd like to see 90% of the state's population move out. There is nothing more sickening than to run into some up tight high pressure New York, King of Egos type fucking up our laid back California sunshine culture.

California is for people who enjoy being for the sake of being. You want to make something of yourself, go fuck yourself somewhere else.
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Funny we here in Hawaii feel the same way about californians
 
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