Toyota Highlander passengers survive 100 mph street racing accident

[rh71]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: cjgallen

Originally posted by: acemcmac
<<< Mustang with stiffened suspension and Z-rated tires for just that sort of hairpin turning....

Mustang for TURNING? :laugh:

I came around a blind corner last fall and found myself doing a 70mph salom between two deer... the first in my lane, and the second 20 feet up in the opposite lane. I did it successfully without hitting either of them. Anything is possible with enough practice and a solid enough understanding of your car. I doubt this woman had either.

I'm not saying that this was her fault, but I really have a hard time feeling sorry for her- I don't know the road this happened on, and I don't know the conditions, but it wouldnt surprise me at all to learn that she froze at the wheel rather than salomed around it...

cocky 18-year old better-than-you American cowboy. :roll: Hopefully for the sake of your future family, you will grow out of this phase.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: cjgallen

Originally posted by: acemcmac
<<< Mustang with stiffened suspension and Z-rated tires for just that sort of hairpin turning....

Mustang for TURNING? :laugh:

I came around a blind corner last fall and found myself doing a 70mph salom between two deer... the first in my lane, and the second 20 feet up in the opposite lane. I did it successfully without hitting either of them....

70MPH....130MPH....almost twice as fast. Your overconfidence makes you a bad driver. And you're full of crap.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: labgeek

Originally posted by: acemcmac
ahhahahha SUV driver suck :evil:

Bet she's wishing she had opted for a vehicle with non-jello suspension so mabye she could have avoided that....

but hey, can't have your cake and eat it too

I'm gunna get flamed for this, but she deserves it just for being an obnoxious soccer mom

WTF are you talking about?

Those huge suv's have the steering responsivness of cruise ships and suspension made of jello to boot. Anyone who decides to operate one without taking into consideration that they won't be able to get out of the way of whatever road hazzard is ahead of them is... well... kidding themselves. I definitley believe that these guys fvcked up big time and deserve the book thrown at them, but I have a really hard time feeling sorry for this woman...

I wanta see you get out of a way of 100 mph mustang ramming in front of you. DO IT

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: cjgallen

Originally posted by: acemcmac
<<< Mustang with stiffened suspension and Z-rated tires for just that sort of hairpin turning....

Mustang for TURNING? :laugh:

I came around a blind corner last fall and found myself doing a 70mph salom between two deer... the first in my lane, and the second 20 feet up in the opposite lane. I did it successfully without hitting either of them. Anything is possible with enough practice and a solid enough understanding of your car. I doubt this woman had either.

I'm not saying that this was her fault, but I really have a hard time feeling sorry for her- I don't know the road this happened on, and I don't know the conditions, but it wouldnt surprise me at all to learn that she froze at the wheel rather than salomed around it...

Slalomed around it??? Spending too much time playing GT4?

You can't SLALOM aound a vehicle traveling at 100MPH towards you when you are doing 45-55. Most brains can't even possibly fathom the thought of a car coming at them at 100MPH fast enough to even comprehend what's going on.

If I were driving on a city street and all of a sudden a car comes flying at me at 100MPH, I'd probably sh!t a brick and freeze up before anything else took place...

 

[acemcmac]

NFS4, have you ever found yourself on a road with someone hurtling at you? There?s' a divided highway with a bar in the middle just south of here and people frequently make turns out of it going the wrong way, completely drunk... You observe and react. I can't imagine driving a Highlander instead of something more maneuverable helped her case. What's so unreasonable about that?

 

Originally posted by: jumpr

I'm not saying that this was her fault, but I really have a hard time feeling sorry for her- I don't know the road this happened on, and I don't know the conditions, but it wouldnt surprise me at all to learn that she froze at the wheel rather than salomed around it...

So now it's her fault rather than her "cruise ship" Highlander's fault?

You really are a class act.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: Bushwicktrini

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: labgeek

Originally posted by: acemcmac
ahhahahha SUV driver suck :evil:

Bet she's wishing she had opted for a vehicle with non-jello suspension so mabye she could have avoided that....

but hey, can't have your cake and eat it too

I'm gunna get flamed for this, but she deserves it just for being an obnoxious soccer mom

WTF are you talking about?

Those huge suv's have the steering responsivness of cruise ships and suspension made of jello to boot. Anyone who decides to operate one without taking into consideration that they won't be able to get out of the way of whatever road hazzard is ahead of them is... well... kidding themselves. I definitley believe that these guys fvcked up big time and deserve the book thrown at them, but I have a really hard time feeling sorry for this woman...

And a mustang flying through the air is a "Road Hazzard" that your car could avoid????

Actually.... yeah....

<<< Mustang with stiffened suspension and Z-rated tires for just that sort of hairpin turning....

Now we know why he doesnt feel sorry for this woman. Because he is one of them to race his mustang at over 100 mph.

 

[vi edit]

I'm still trying to derive fact from fiction. Does acemcmac truely think this way, or are we just feeding the trolls?

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: joshsquall
So if someone's house burns down, they should have known to build it completely out of concrete.

Nonsense. Concrete will also burn if you get it hot enough.

If the whole thing is concrete, what's going to start the fire? I don't think a candle or a wood fire burns hot enough to burn concrete.

Nuclear warhead? Hey, it could happen. You better be prepared or you're an idiot.

Zing!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
NFS4, have you ever found yourself on a road with someone hurtling at you? There?s' a divided highway with a bar in the middle just south of here and people frequently make turns out of it going the wrong way, completely drunk... You observe and react. I can't imagine driving a Highlander instead of something more maneuverable helped her case. What's so unreasonable about that?

And you can react enough in 1/4 sec?


:roll:


You take the asshat of the year award. Hands-down.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
NFS4, have you ever found yourself on a road with someone hurtling at you? There?s' a divided highway with a bar in the middle just south of here and people frequently make turns out of it going the wrong way, completely drunk... You observe and react. I can't imagine driving a Highlander instead of something more maneuverable helped her case. What's so unreasonable about that?

DUDE, our family fuggin' owns a 2002 Highlander Limited V6. I've racked up over 15,000 miles in the damn thing. I know what it CAN and CAN NOT do. The vehicle has saved my ass on numerous occasions (Electronic brake distribution, stability control and traction control kicking in). The damn thing handles better than my '95 Camry LE and is faster and stops quicker.

Bottom line, 100MPH vehicle hurtling at you is not gonna end well.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
NFS4, have you ever found yourself on a road with someone hurtling at you? There?s' a divided highway with a bar in the middle just south of here and people frequently make turns out of it going the wrong way, completely drunk... You observe and react. I can't imagine driving a Highlander instead of something more maneuverable helped her case. What's so unreasonable about that?

The 100 mpg mustang ramming in front of you give you less time to react rather you have a lambo or highlander. Thats what unreasonable. If you know the street where drunk people "frequently" make the wrong turn. YOU ARE EXPECTED to see them. I don't know where in hell you can expect a 100mph car flying in front of you. Making those kind of comparison is very unreasonable.

If you still don't understand, have a friend ram in front of you at 100 mph when you are least expected....I want to see either of you survive

 

[cjgallen]

acemcmac :laugh:

 

[amcdonald]

acemcmac, I will no longer take you seriously.
I'll hope for your sake that you are trolling, but if you really have the kind of logic displayed in this thread...

You should stop posting and go try to avoid some oncoming mustangs.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
I'm still trying to derive fact from fiction. Does acemcmac truely think this way, or are we just feeding the trolls?

Well, it's a little of both. It really is sad to hear that a family who was just going out minding their own busness got hurt in this, and I think there is absoultley no excuse, ever ever ever ever to be on the wrong side of yellow lines, as must have been the case here. Part of me feels though that this is a sensless tragedy beacuse I feel strongly that given different circumstances, she could have saved herself.

I figure that if the Mustangs were doing 100 and she was doing 60, thats still only 160mph rate of closing- and her vehicle is still going to handle at a rate of 60mph. The fastest I've ever driven was 165 and looking back on it, given... meh... I dunno.... 100-150 feet, I could have safley moved over a car width... and that was still a more of a luxury car than a car that could handle... Before you get on me for the physics of that, all I'm trying to say is that mabye if her maneuverability wasn't limmited by her SUV, she could have avoided this.

The biggest reason I will never own an SUV is because of crap like this.

I'm attaching google map of the deer salom I did

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/acemcmac/deer_salom.JPG

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: jumpr

I'm not saying that this was her fault, but I really have a hard time feeling sorry for her- I don't know the road this happened on, and I don't know the conditions, but it wouldnt surprise me at all to learn that she froze at the wheel rather than salomed around it...

So now it's her fault rather than her "cruise ship" Highlander's fault?

You really are a class act.

LOL.. You know what they say about people that quote and talk to themselves....

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: vi_edit
I'm still trying to derive fact from fiction. Does acemcmac truely think this way, or are we just feeding the trolls?

I figure that if the Mustangs were doing 100 and she was doing 60, thats still only 160mph rate of closing- and her vehicle is still going to handle at a rate of 60mph. The fastest I've ever driven was 165 and looking back on it, given... meh... I dunno....

1) Did you fail your phsyic class?
2) Nevermind...because you are one of those mustangs driver (who expect people to have cars and reaction time fast enough to get out of your way because you can do it- i really doubt you can move out of a car UNEXPECTEDLY ramming at you at 100 mph)

 

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: jumpr

I'm not saying that this was her fault, but I really have a hard time feeling sorry for her- I don't know the road this happened on, and I don't know the conditions, but it wouldnt surprise me at all to learn that she froze at the wheel rather than salomed around it...

So now it's her fault rather than her "cruise ship" Highlander's fault?

You really are a class act.

LOL.. You know what they say about people that quote and talk to themselves....

WTF!

I meant to quote acemcmac, obviously.

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: conjur

The brutal impact sent the Mustang careening into a light pole just before 8 p.m. Tuesday in the Rockaways, killing the driver, Carlos Feria, 22, of Queens, police said.

One dead asshat.

Too bad the other fvcktard didn't die, too.

it's better that he suffer under the law anyway. he's twice the dead driver's age, and he should have been wiser.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
=The fastest I've ever driven was 165 and looking back on it, given... meh... I dunno.... 100-150 feet, I could have safley moved over a car width

165 MPH = 242 feet per second. You expect us to believe you could have: Reacted, moved the car over 10 feet, not lost control of the car, all in just over 1/2 second?

This is the only thing you drive.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: conjur

The brutal impact sent the Mustang careening into a light pole just before 8 p.m. Tuesday in the Rockaways, killing the driver, Carlos Feria, 22, of Queens, police said.

One dead asshat.

Too bad the other fvcktard didn't die, too.

And we have a surviving one in here.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: acemcmac
=The fastest I've ever driven was 165 and looking back on it, given... meh... I dunno.... 100-150 feet, I could have safley moved over a car width

165 MPH = 242 feet per second. You expect us to believe you could have: Reacted, moved the car over 10 feet, not lost control of the car, all in just over 1/2 second?

This is the only thing you drive.

hey, I was only giving you guestimates... calling me full of sh!t isn't really justified here...

I guess it took a little longer than that

 

[Randum]

wow lets race some mustangs to show whos got bigger balls...grow up-they deserve to be locked up.

 

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: acemcmac
=The fastest I've ever driven was 165 and looking back on it, given... meh... I dunno.... 100-150 feet, I could have safley moved over a car width

165 MPH = 242 feet per second. You expect us to believe you could have: Reacted, moved the car over 10 feet, not lost control of the car, all in just over 1/2 second?

This is the only thing you drive.

hey, I was only giving you guestimates... calling me full of sh!t isn't really justified here...

I guess it took a little longer than that

Ah, now it comes out...

 

[vi edit]

I figure that if the Mustangs were doing 100 and she was doing 60, thats still only 160mph rate of closing- and her vehicle is still going to handle at a rate of 60mph. The fastest I've ever driven was 165 and looking back on it, given... meh... I dunno.... 100-150 feet, I could have safley moved over a car width... and that was still a more of a luxury car than a car that could handle... Before you get on me for the physics of that, all I'm trying to say is that mabye if her maneuverability wasn't limmited by her SUV, she could have avoided this.

You are making a scarecrow out of the vehicle. And I think you are greatly underestimating just how little of reaction time you have when something is flying at you at 100+ MPH. (And in reality even faster because you are driving at it).

It's not the vehicle that's the problem. She could have been driving a Lotus Elise and probably would ended being scrubbed off the pavement. It's not a question of vehicle reaction. It's simply that a normal driver isn't expecting something like that to happen and does not have ample time to react. A person has to be able to react before vehicle physics even come into play.

In this situation I don't think she could even really comprehend what was happening, let alone actually try and do something to avoid it.

The only factor that involves the make of vehicle is that everyone in the Highlander is alive.