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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Kev
this is probably the easiest decision of all time. either this is a joke, or you're an incompetant manager

Im not a manager, I have never previously interviewed someone. Can you cut me some slack I am not even a year out of college and they have me hiring ppl and leading projects.....

sorry i assumed you were the manager. but still, this is sooooo easy

The only thing that was leaning me away from the old guy was whether he'd be quick enough I just wanted some candid feedback which you all graciously provided me. :beer:
 

Injury

Lifer
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The best way to make this decision is to imagine yourself explaining to someone why you WON'T be hiring them. Feel free to post that thought ;) :)
 

jjones

Lifer
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Originally posted by: gigapet
The only thing that was leaning me away from the old guy was whether he'd be quick enough I just wanted some candid feedback which you all graciously provided me. :beer:
There is a saying: You never have time to do it right the first time, but you always have time to do it over.

The old guy sounds like he would get it right the first time, while the young guy sounds as if you might end up taking the time to do it over. Sure you have a crunch, but you want somone on your team with the most experience to do it right the first time.

 

Ranger X

Lifer
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It doesn't sound like the young guy has the credentials to do the work that is required here. Go with the old guy.
 
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what does age have to do with it?

sounds like age based discrimination to me.

EDIT: Since you just documenting your discrimatory approach to hiring on ATOT for everyone to see, you betting hire the old guy!
 

Rufio

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talk to the old dude.

tell him u want to hire him because he rocks, but you are concerned that he will not be able to keep up w/you guys.

Tell him upfront nad see waht he says.

he did a good job for you guys so reward him.

easy solution there, man!
 

bjc112

Lifer
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Originally posted by: notfred
Old guy, especially since he jsut finished writing an app for your company that you're happy with. He has a good track record, why not hire him again?

 

badmouse

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WHOA! Welcome to the world of business management. The BRIGHT GREEN LIGHT here - caps are for emphasis - is that

Manager said he would hire again.

Sweetie, that means that your ass is covered. If you hire him, and he screws up, you've got a "but the mgr said . . " right there, so it's not your provenance any more.

Hire the old guy!!! You usually have to work a lot harder to find someone else to be co-responsible for your decisions.

Good luck.
 

gigapet

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I just spoke with the developer who worked with old guy on the project he just finished. He reaffirmed that he was very knowledgeable, a hard worker( came in saturday and sundays) and was capable of working under a very high pressure and aggressive developement schedule.

So thats it my only concern has been eliminated.

Old guy it is!

:beer: here's to the old guy


:beer: here's to ATOT for your useful input!
 

RossMAN

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Why were you concerned about the experienced guy's age?

What factor does that play into his abilities?

BTW I would consider "old" 60+, how old is he?
 

gigapet

Lifer
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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Why were you concerned about the experienced guy's age?

What factor does that play into his abilities?

BTW I would consider "old" 60+, how old is he?

pushing 65 if not older
 

Turkish

Lifer
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I'd hire the older guy... he may be a good mentor for you and other as well. There's always something to be learned from others.
 

jjones

Lifer
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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Why were you concerned about the experienced guy's age?

What factor does that play into his abilities?

BTW I would consider "old" 60+, how old is he?

pushing 65 if not older
Oh, damn, you didn't say he was that old. You better hire the young guy, the old one's going to be pushing up daisies before the project's over. ;) :p

 

flot

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Kev
this is probably the easiest decision of all time. either this is a joke, or you're an incompetant manager

Im not a manager, I have never previously interviewed someone. Can you cut me some slack I am not even a year out of college and they have me hiring ppl and leading projects.....

Perhaps you should ask your HR department to enroll you in a hiring practices / age discrimination lawsuit training course.
 

gigapet

Lifer
Aug 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: flot
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Kev
this is probably the easiest decision of all time. either this is a joke, or you're an incompetant manager

Im not a manager, I have never previously interviewed someone. Can you cut me some slack I am not even a year out of college and they have me hiring ppl and leading projects.....

Perhaps you should ask your HR department to enroll you in a hiring practices / age discrimination lawsuit training course.

I did not ask him how old he was or any age related questions in the interview he'd have no grounds for an AD lawsuit.

This is pointless, we are hiring him.