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Total...TOTAL straw poll corruption

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HeXploiT

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This is corruption on a pedestal for the entire world to enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8wjJieSib0


What's really amazing is that they are so open & overt about the entire process.
If it weren't for sites like Youtube & Google video each of the mainstream media networks would pass this off as an ordinary win by Mitt Romney at a fair and balanced poll.
I don't give a damn if anyone thinks this is yet more Ron Paul spam.
If you don't see the sense of urgency here then you are beyond teaching.
 
:waaaahhhhmbulance:

I swear you RP nuts drive more people away from RP due to this conspiracy BS than RP does himself.

It's a freaking straw poll in Florida in November. Nobody cares about it since the REAL votes are coming next month. Sheesh
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Chee, another Ron Paul spam thread from the usual suspect. :roll:
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but but but CORRUPTION!!!!111

(don't mind the RP supported bought ~25% of the initial tickets)

Here's an idea. How about you RP supporters act rational. It might actually HELP your candidate instead of turning people off to him.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Pabster
Chee, another Ron Paul spam thread from the usual suspect. :roll:
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but but but CORRUPTION!!!!111

(don't mind the RP supported bought ~25% of the initial tickets)

Here's an idea. How about you RP supporters act rational. It might actually HELP your candidate instead of turning people off to him.
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It's hard to act rational when some people act stubbornly ignorant of everything that is happening around them.

I was at the straw poll.. 95% of the people there were Ron Paul supporters. Mitt Romney people were voting multiple times. The media (except for St Pete Times which actually reported that Romney bought the poll) reported that it was a clean win for Romney.
 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Pabster
Chee, another Ron Paul spam thread from the usual suspect. :roll:
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but but but CORRUPTION!!!!111

(don't mind the RP supported bought ~25% of the initial tickets)

Here's an idea. How about you RP supporters act rational. It might actually HELP your candidate instead of turning people off to him.
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It's hard to act rational when some people act stubbornly ignorant of everything that is happening around them.

I was at the straw poll.. 95% of the people there were Ron Paul supporters. Mitt Romney people were voting multiple times. The media (except for St Pete Times which actually reported that Romney bought the poll) reported that it was a clean win for Romney.
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It's great that you have a passion but it seems you RP supporters don't know how to control it - thus thinking that anything that goes against RP is something earth shattering. I have news for you - it's not earth shattering. Straw polls aren't exactly something people care about at this stage. The early straw polls trimmed the herd but it's way too close to actual primary voting that it's hardly a blip on the campaign radar.
 
I just got a sudden glimpse of the future. The next popular conspiracy theory to join the pantheon will be, "Ron Paul was going to win but the mass media / Federal Reserve / Santa's elves conspired to stop him."
 
I might consider voting for Paul except that it appears that he's paying people to spam message boards every time a new video gets posted online somewhere or bring him up in otherwise unrelated threads. Even if a political candidate was paying me to post in support of his campaign, I would still accidentally post in other threads occasionally.
 
Originally posted by: yllus
I just got a sudden glimpse of the future. The next popular conspiracy theory to join the pantheon will be, "Ron Paul was going to win but the mass media / Federal Reserve / Santa's elves conspired to stop him."
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Never underestimate the power of Santa's Elves!
 
Ok Ron Paul supporters the WHOLE point of straw polls like this is to raise money for the local Republicans. That is why you have to buy a ticket to vote. That is why they let people buy as many tickets as they want. They want to RAISE money to help the Republicans win more offices in next years election.

Outside of raising money this poll has NO meaning at all. Get over yourself.
 
Seems like a reasonable complaint, especially if the rules were not clearly communicated so you had Ron Paul supporters thinking one person one vote, and Mitt Romney supporters planning to vote many times.

First, the issue isn't the significance of the impact on the election, but the principle, and second, the horse race info these sorts of events produce is very important to the campaigns, the most importanthing for campaigns in these primaries is looking like front runners, since so many vote based on who is electable.

If it's just fund-raising with many 'votes' per person, then don't imply there's any 'poll' aspect to it other than fund-raising - which is already enough to keep candidates out of debates (a major network cited fundraising figures in determining who was invited).

There's a sheep-like bandwagon developing it seems to attack the RP supporters. Oh well, why should this issue be any different?🙂
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDjPY_ngxNU

I am not as ignorant as many of you and I have done my best over the years to shed my ego so hammering home the idea that I am spamming because I post twice a day about a subject I and a great many others here care deeply about is just not going to fly.
Every time you pound my threads with your aggressive behavior I know that the thread has greater visibility and I thank you for that. You are simply not going to harm or deter me from sharing what I know to be the truth. What you say simply does not bother me because I know there are so many here in agreement with me even if they choose not to speak.

Now on to the topic.

Pinellas County Republican Executive Committee
Tony DiMatteo (Chairman)
727.539.6009
pinellasgop@verizon.net

PUBLIC NOTICE OF FORTHCOMING FELONY COMPLAINT
by Ted Lee Gunderson, Private Criminal Investigator
FBI Senior Special Agent in Charge (retired)
Gunderson Professional Investigations

This cheating (i.e., rigging) at the recent Pinellas County GOP
straw poll debate by Pinellas County GOP staff, Romney's
Campaign staff and others--including his unscrupulous
supporters--not only constitutes felony fraud and conspiracy,
it constitutes an outrageous abuse of the public trust that
must not be tolerated by the American people. Former FBI
Division Chief, Ted Gunderson, who is an ardent 'Ron Paul for
President' supporter, has decided to investigate this criminal
act further and file formal felony affidavits against all known
and yet unknown perpetrators to this criminal conspiracy.
Another felony was perpetrated when REC Chairman, Tony DiMatteo
verbally threatened to ?hurt? a Ron Paul supporter; now a
felony crime victim-witness.

The forthcoming felony complaints will be posted @
http://www.1-free-dvd.com and/or http://www.tedgunderson.com
...then... submitted to the a Pinellas county grand jury and
local prosecutor where the straw poll vote fraud took place and
also to the federal government/Department of Justice.
Fortunately, we have the irrefutable film evidence of the
villains being caught red-handed in the act of felony fraud and
conspiracy-collusion to rig the outcome of this vitally
important straw poll. Does Mitt Romney condone or otherwise
support this kind of criminal conduct? Will he fire the
culprits or at least apologize for the crimes of his dishonest
staff and supporters? Now every straw poll purportedly won by
Romney must be investigated for similar crimes perpetrated
against Dr. Ron Paul, the other GOP candidates and the American
public.

Those Ron Paul supporters who retaliated by going back to vote
multiple times should not have repaid "evil with evil" since
they, too, are subject to felony prosecution in like manner as
the Romney conspirators. Ted Gunderson does not believe that
Dr. Paul would condone multiple-ballots-voting just because the
Romney gang did it first. This kind of cheating and felony
fraud is outrageous, unjust, immoral, unethical and un-
American!! Felony criminal complaints are forthcoming!!!

Ted Gunderson requests that everyone help us publicize these
felonies and get this email out to everyone you know. Spread
the word that Romney's staff and unethical GOP personnel are
engaging in outrageous felony crimes and these crooks need to
be brought to justice immediately. Prison terms for these
criminals will send a clear message to unrighteous Americans
that this kind of felony "vote rigging" will not be tolerated!

Fellow Americans who wish to have their names added to the forthcoming felony complaint should email:
Justice.Ranger@yahoo.com and provide your first & last name
and complete mailing address. Just write: FELONY FRAUD
COMPLAINT in the subject line. The final criminal complaint
will be published at www.1-free-dvd.com
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Again not that this is against the law but I'm not going to show up at someones wedding and start telling dirty stories about the brides wild days in her youth. ---
You see some things are expected and there are always principles and a way we are expected to behave. The Romney camp was way out of line and the American people need to see the extent they are willing to go.
 
Again, perry - it's great that you "care" so deeply but since you and others can't control yourself it makes you look fringe. It's great you really really really support your choice but posting conspiracy after conspiracy doesn't do your guy any favors - even if there is a bit of truth to what you say. I don't hate RP - I just don't support him at the moment because I think there may be a better candidate and a better LEADER. If it comes down to it - he would have my support but the ones I feel might be better would have to drop out first. It's just the way it is. But the constant 'RP is a victim of XXXX' posts gets real old and turns people off to his candidacy. Just sayin'
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Again, perry - it's great that you "care" so deeply but since you and others can't control yourself it makes you look fringe. It's great you really really really support your choice but posting conspiracy after conspiracy doesn't do your guy any favors - even if there is a bit of truth to what you say. I don't hate RP - I just don't support him at the moment because I think there may be a better candidate and a better LEADER. If it comes down to it - he would have my support but the ones I feel might be better would have to drop out first. It's just the way it is. But the constant 'RP is a victim of XXXX' posts gets real old and turns people off to his candidacy. Just sayin'
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Uuuum....bullshit. You are as transparent as glass. I post a couple of times per day. You will harp on me until I don't post at all. When you attempt to make someone who posts a couple of times per day look "fringe" it's rather obvious who has the agenda here. You just can't paint this picture any differently then it is.
 
Originally posted by: Perry404
I am not as ignorant as many of you and I have done my best over the years to shed my ego so hammering home the idea that I am spamming because I post twice a day about a subject I and a great many others here care deeply about is just not going to fly.
Every time you pound my threads with your aggressive behavior I know that the thread has greater visibility and I thank you for that. You are simply not going to harm or deter me from sharing what I know to be the truth. What you say simply does not bother me because I know there are so many here in agreement with me even if they choose not to speak.
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Why don't you just start a Ron Paul thread? This is the typical procedure for people who are posting many, many threads on one topic. Starting many different threads on the same subject with misleading titles is, IMO, spamming. I would be more than happy to debate the merits of Paul's positions (I think there are quite a few, actually), but I can't do it in an effective way when you jump from one thread to the next.
 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Ron Paul doesn't deliver babies, he reads them the bill of rights and they crawl out on their own in eager anticipation of their freedom!
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This is why people don't take you seriously.
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I know for a fact and from experience that many here take me very seriously and appreciate my views. I know that you also take me seriously or you wouldn't respond repeatedly attempting to minimize the message I am handing along.
Sorry but your soundbites don't fly. Who is buying what you are selling?
 
That e-mail of yours is a joke.

I find insanely funny that the people who are going around bombing every online poll they can find are now complaining about other people voting twice in a 'poll'

Is this Ron Paul fan going to file felony fraud complaints against the Ron Paul campaign for all its poll bombing?

BTW instead of bitching about some meaningless straw poll why not work on the fact that he is up to like 7% in some Iowa polls. Don't pull a Ross Perot and the second people actually start to look at your seriously you go off and start talking about black helicopters sent to your daughters wedding to ruin it.
 
Oh the irony. Paul supporters who spam every online poll and claim the poll results were legit are complaining about people spamming a straw poll? Pot, meet kettle.

Just proves Ron Paul supporters will believe absolutely anything they read or view on the internet. Pretty sad that Paul supporters have to sink to posting youtube videos as proof
of their theories.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
That e-mail of yours is a joke.

I find insanely funny that the people who are going around bombing every online poll they can find are now complaining about other people voting twice in a 'poll'

Is this Ron Paul fan going to file felony fraud complaints against the Ron Paul campaign for all its poll bombing?

BTW instead of bitching about some meaningless straw poll why not work on the fact that he is up to like 7% in some Iowa polls. Don't pull a Ross Perot and the second people actually start to look at your seriously you go off and start talking about black helicopters sent to your daughters wedding to ruin it.
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Or maybe you should deal with the facts, instead of the empty rhetoric you posted.

I'm a strong opponent of Ron Paul. Doesn't affect my views of this issue.

PJ, you are clearly one who has koolaid running through your veins, and it's not Ron Paul colored koolaid, so you are going to have something snide and mocking to say aobut RP and his supporters until they are your allies. You're always full of advice for your political opponents, and has one bit of it evey had any benefit? Not that I recall.

You may want to stick to just trying to advocate for your views (and maybe sometime actually listen to opponents), since your advice is not too helpful.

You like to post things of the 'you RP poll spammers are complaining about Romney doing it' format, so how about, 'you righties who spewed the Vince Foster Clintons are mass murderers claims for years are talking about black helicoptors to Ron Paul supporters?' Before you complain that is' not fair to lump you with them, show me your evidence that Perry has spammed any Ron Paul polls, since you lumped him with them.
 
Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Ron Paul doesn't deliver babies, he reads them the bill of rights and they crawl out on their own in eager anticipation of their freedom!
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This is why people don't take you seriously.
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I know for a fact and from experience that many here take me very seriously and appreciate my views. I know that you also take me seriously or you wouldn't respond repeatedly attempting to minimize the message I am handing along.
Sorry but your soundbites don't fly. Who is buying what you are selling?
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Keep it up.

Ron Paul 2008 :thumbsup:


😀
 
To be fair I have seen Perry404 post in a lot of different threads (other than just Ron Paul ones)...

However, to link a little group of supporters to the candidate they are "cheating" for seems a bit silly. They are being dishonest, but it is difficult to draw any conclusions about the candidate from those few supporters. It could just as easily be Ron Paul supporters doing the same some place else. Peoples is peoplesss
 
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