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toshiba celeron with vista and only 512mb; updated and finished

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fire400

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Celeron 440 Intel Core Duo T2250 Toshiba laptop L30/L35-S2316

is it worth it?

Toshiba laptops suck, believe it or not...

vista is freakin' slow, I MEAN SLOW on this laptop!

updates:

don't need to install XP, but I know it will work, others have tried it, the L35 model is similar to the L30 model.

toshiba-europe has Windows XP/VISTA drivers, toshiba USA only has VISTA drivers, look for L30 on europe site.

the processor is a pain to extract. unlike Acer there is no how-to guide on takin' the laptop apart. keep in mind that the network card has a saudered peice that you must break lose or cut the wires and splice later if you're takin' apart the chassis to gain full access to the motherboard, otherwise working around it is a pain, but it can be done without breaking the network card wires connected to the LCD display.
-the (two) VGA pins must come off before you pull the board out. they sit along side the blue VGA adapter, on the outside.

clean crappy paste off. use silver thermal compound.

stupid (cheap) board only takes (+) 5-5-5-X and above, no settings available whatsoever to adjust LATENCY, avoid 1GB 4-4-4-12 sticks as far as compatibility goes, otherwise may not boot or OS dysfuntions will occur.
only takes 1GBx2 maximum as far as capacity goes. I had to fvcken take the RAM I bought and instead put it into my acer 5610 laptop, and put rated 5-5-5-15 (1gbx2) into the toshiba; took me like 10 minutes to realize 'WTF is wrong with this laptop not booting correctly?'

nice keyboard; crappy touchpad, I admit.

50 bucks for all the parts, including the thermal paste.
CPU (20-shipped), RAM (20-shipped), Antec Silver 5 (10-office depot)

Celeron laptops are fvcken slow, never ever buy Intel's junk processors, NEVER.

I'm giving the laptop back to my friend. case closed!
 
advice: find the xp drivers first before you reformat. if its relatively new you might run into problems finding some for xp

 
What kind of Celeron?

I'd upgrade the RAM first and turn down Vista effects; you could also add a ReadyBoost drive in an SD slot. I'm not sure, but I also thought it took a little bit of time for SuperFetch to figure out what's used the most?

If that stuff doesn't work, look into putting XP on it if you have a spare license or want to pay for one or just go and install Ubuntu on it or something...

Edit:
If it's 2 years old, I wouldn't try playing with Vista too much. If the increased RAM doesn't help it, just go back to XP or find your favorite open source OS. I was running Ubuntu on my 2.5 year old laptop for 5 months with no driver problems (eventually gave up because my hard drive was too small to play computer games, a large chunk of music in FLAC, and 2 OSes).
 
it's a crappy celeron @ 1.8, one of their baseline models before they added the stronger celerons to the market I think, but any kind of celerons are a bad omen

the default software is vista basic

i'll try the RAM part first, though I'm sure it's still going to lag.

i'll double check if there are drivers available for XP, otherwise I'll force an XP install and use everest to search out the drivers

thing is freakin' temp. hot, but I'm wondering if I should just upgrade the celeron to a core duo? but the chipset must seriously be crappy

and I'm guessing the drive is a 4200 rpm, omg... if it is.., ill peice of crappy toshiba-line products!

wtf they load vista on a 512mb RAM system with a Celeron!? fvck they thinking!
 
yeah ram is pretty cheap these days anyway. should see a big difference in that extra 1.5gb of memory. i checked the thoshiba site and didnt see any drivers for xp. i went through this same thing recently with an hp model and it was a pain in the ass to try to find working xp drivers for everything. if you decide to go down that path, try to get as many before you reformat. some things will be easier, like getting the intel chipset drivers from intel. but audio might be more tricky. you dont really need the touchpad driver, or at least mine didnt. xp had one built in that worked

 
Originally posted by: IlllI
if the cpu is pin compatible with the socket and the bios supports it, then probably
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i've been f'n lookin' and it's a damn pain to tell if it's gonna be the right socket or not

it's clearly socket M it states. however, I'm wondering if the cpu I'm possibly upgrading is going to make any difference?
 
That upgrade should work.

Advantages of that upgrade:
Lower TDP for the T2250 (Yonah) over the Celeron M 440 (Yonah, half L2 cache)
Double the L2 cache in the T2250 (2MB instead of 1MB)
Dual core

Disadvantage
Lower clock frequency (100mhz)

If you can upgrade cheap enough, it could be worth it. Even with the slightly lower clock of the T2250, you'll get a speed boost by the extra L2 cache and a cooler running machine with the better power saving features of the Core Duo processor. And the dual core will definitely be a BIG plus.

List of Intel Celeron Processors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...eleron_microprocessors
List of Intel Core Processors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...l_Core_microprocessors

Edited to include dual core.
 
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
That upgrade should work.

Advantages of that upgrade:
Lower TDP for the T2250 (Yonah) over the Celeron M 440 (Yonah, half L2 cache)
Double the L2 cache in the T2250 (2MB instead of 1MB)

Disadvantage
Lower clock frequency (100mhz)

If you can upgrade cheap enough, it could be worth it. Even with the slightly lower clock of the T2250, you'll get a speed boost by the extra L2 cache and a cooler running machine with the better power saving features of the Core Duo processor.

List of Intel Celeron Processors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...eleron_microprocessors
List of Intel Core Processors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...l_Core_microprocessors
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Don't forget, the t2250 is dual core.
I have a laptop that I gave to my gf, that came with a t2060 and 512MB ram and vista home basic. I upped it to 1.5GB and vista business and it is night and day difference. IT now has Windows 7 on it and is even faster than with vista.
It by no means is a power house but for web browsing, document creation and videos it's fine.
 
I got it off ebay for 20 bucks shipped:

extracting...
Boxed Intel® Celeron® M Processor 440 (1M Cache, 1.86 GHz, 533 MHz FSB) uFCPGA
SOCKET: PPGA478

replacing with...
Intel® Core? Duo Processor T2250 (2M Cache, 1.73 GHz, 533 MHz FSB) TJ, uFCPGA, Tray SOCKET: PPGA478

already took this sh!t apart, peices lyin' all over a top shelf. be hella funny if the board doesn't take it

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got 2 gigs, 2x1gb, for 20 bucks shipped from ebay, too
 
Originally posted by: fire400
I got it off ebay for 20 bucks shipped:

extracting...
Boxed Intel® Celeron® M Processor 440 (1M Cache, 1.86 GHz, 533 MHz FSB) uFCPGA
SOCKET: PPGA478

replacing with...
Intel® Core? Duo Processor T2250 (2M Cache, 1.73 GHz, 533 MHz FSB) TJ, uFCPGA, Tray SOCKET: PPGA478

already took this sh!t apart, peices lyin' all over a top shelf. be hella funny if the board doesn't take it

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got 2 gigs, 2x1gb, for 20 bucks shipped from ebay, too
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Awesome. Let us know how the upgrade goes as far as increasing speeds or additional steps that you might take if the upgrade doesn't do enough?
 
I woulda been happy with the celeron M. They aren't that bad really. Didn't they have the same IPC as the Athlon 64s?
 
excellent~!

it was a success, it's hella FASTER...

booted up the first time w/o hassle

guy was right, it's a night into day performance boost with the RAM increase+

and the new CPU kills the Celeron by 10 x fold+, making it incredibly more responsive in every single way

right clicking on the desktop, drop down menu comes out instantly as opposed to waiting several seconds with the Celeron processor previously installed

no more OS lag...

Vista din' give me beef about hardware change, just showed install box for new CPU and did a restart

next step: installing Win XP Pro

fvck it, take too long to install XP. thx for all the support; avoah!
 
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