Torn between 2 fans

[entropy1982]

I can get either 5 yate loons (D12SL-12)
Link for 20 bucks plus shipping or i can get 4 coolermasters
Link for 24 + shipping.

I can stand a little noise... however if they both cool exactly the same then i'd rather have the quieter one. Which would you recommend for cooling my P180. I will have 4 fans in it.

From SVC i got these stats

22.8dba/36.87CFM for yate loon
22dba/42.73CFM for CM

so are the CMs better at cooling (more airflow) at about the same noise as yate loon? I would get the CMs in this case (the extra 5 or 10 bucks is ok by me) ... or is there more to it than just these numbers?

I also stumbled upon this review (although it doesn't help much... just says they are all good lol)

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=20005

 

[marvw]

BUMP

 

[Srezic]

Hey entropy,

Just want to let you know that the Yate Loons in that deal are actually at 1350RPM (47 CFM, 28 dBA) and not 1000RPM like their rebadged Nexus brothers.

I'm actually torn on whether to get the Yate Loons or the nexuses hehe. I don't know how 28 or 22 dBA sounds (they are both massively quieter than my 55ish dBA Volcano 7+ I have right now =/) I'd prefer the extra CFM, but if it makes the case loud it's a turn off.

Also, the 5 Yate Loons are 3.99 apiece (4*5 = 20) + shipping. So it would be closer to 25 for 5(still awesome deal!)

So your question, like mine, is: Is the extra CFM(about 6-10ish) worth the jump of about 5 dBA (50% louder)?

 

[entropy1982]

well yea srezic i said "for 20 bucks plus shipping" hehe

but i'm thinkin bout the CMs cuz 22dba seems awesome at 47 cfm

also marvw that's really strange most people seem to get better temps with the front fan.
My fan setup will be a little difft.... top fan will be intake.... the only exhaust will be in the back actually.... people seem to get pretty good temps like this (by inverting the top fan) i guess because it blows almost directly on your cpu... or something (ill have a dfi ultra D mobo)
Maybe I should get a stronger exhaust fan since i'll have 3 intakes like a panaflo L1A? lol

 

[demenion]

I am thinking of ordering 3-5 of these fans.

How do these compare to the fans that come with the Antec P180? Are they worth replacing?

This price is really good..

You think this 120mm fan would work well with my Ninja Scythe heatsink?

I could use some feedback because I am about to order them

 

[entropy1982]

Originally posted by: demenion
I could use some feedback because I am about to order them

Same here

 

[JEDIYoda]

I am currently using the Coolermaster 120mm...I truthfully cannot hear them at all!! Great fans!!

 

[Zepper]

That 40+CFM number on the CM must be a free air value. With the vey low pressure capability, and a power usage rating that you might generate in static while adjusting your shorts, it surely can't stand up to much resistance. An interesting experiment would be to take a flat piece of wood of about twice the fan dimension across and see how close you could get to the fan with it before it stalled.
. The intake fan in my machine can flow from 50-120 CFM and it's plenty quiet enough for me running in the lower end of its range...

.bh.

 

[nealh]

DFI SLI DR: with XP90 and Vantec Stealth fan 92mm


I have both YL and CM fans in my P180...the top fan is used as an intake, rear as exhaust...these CM fans 120mm 22dbs/42cfm

I have an front intake is YL loon..and another YL fan is plastic tied directed at the chipset....

The CM top fan is audible of course because of location...I actually placed blackout tape on the top grill and this helps noise with slight increase in temp...less 1C

with 120mm YL directed at the chipset I lowered idle temps from 47/48 to 44/45 and load never goes over 48c now..befroe about 50/51C(I used AS ceramique on the NB chipset..tried a different cooler but did not want to modify anything so I am stuck with stock HSF)

I have an X800XL with an Artic cooler silencer 5 rev 2..this helped temps as well since it ehausts the heat from videocard out the rear but does block the chipset fan a bit


the YL is ?? equal to slightly quieter than CM...it is very hard to tell because of fan location...almost a mute point

If you have a fan on top as intake seems slightly louder to me vs the fan as exhaust...but it does lower the PWMIC(or whatever) and cpu temps 2C at least and cools my ram

I love both CM and YL fans...specs really are very close..I have hard time telling if the YL really moves more air or not..seems to

 

[johnnqq]

the coolermaster specs can't be right...it has to be more like 25-30db.

 

[JBDan]

Originally posted by: entropy1982
I can get either 5 yate loons (D12SL-12)
Link for 20 bucks plus shipping or i can get 4 coolermasters
Link for 24 + shipping.

I can stand a little noise... however if they both cool exactly the same then i'd rather have the quieter one. Which would you recommend for cooling my P180. I will have 4 fans in it.

From SVC i got these stats

22.8dba/36.87CFM for yate loon
22dba/42.73CFM for CM

so are the CMs better at cooling (more airflow) at about the same noise as yate loon? I would get the CMs in this case (the extra 5 or 10 bucks is ok by me) ... or is there more to it than just these numbers?

I also stumbled upon this review (although it doesn't help much... just says they are all good lol)

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=20005

Entropy, those stats are for the Nexus (which is made by Yate specifically for Nexus). The Yates are ~1350rpm/28dBA/47cfm. The Nexus's are not simply just rebadged Yates w/ a internal diode resistor....they are manufactured by Yate to meet Nexus's specifications. The Nexus at the same rpm as the CM when above ~800rpm (atleast w/ my samples) are quieter...not by turbulence or "air"noise as this is very similiar between the 2, but rather what some call motor hum. Both of them around 650-700rpm are inaudible, to most peeps, from 3 feet when softmounted to your case. If your going to run the fans around 1000 or above, the Yates will probably be a hair quieter than the CM, but if you control them and have them spin @~700rpm or less , you will not be able to distinguish a difference in noise between the 2. Hope that helps.

 

[JBDan]

Originally posted by: johnnqq
the coolermaster specs can't be right...it has to be more like 25-30db.

24-25dBA would be my guess on the CM's.

 

[entropy1982]

I'm thinkin about these fans now: http://tekgems.com/Products/et-13714-fan-d12sm-12.htm
I will be doing some serious overclocking so I want to make sure my temps are good.
I think I would get the CoolerMasters if 44CFM is enough. How do I know how much airflow i really need? Is 44CFM enough.... or will i see a decent improvement with the 70CFM yate loon fans?

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: entropy1982
I'm thinkin about these fans now: http://tekgems.com/Products/et-13714-fan-d12sm-12.htm
I will be doing some serious overclocking so I want to make sure my temps are good.
I think I would get the CoolerMasters if 44CFM is enough. How do I know how much airflow i really need? Is 44CFM enough.... or will i see a decent improvement with the 70CFM yate loon fans?

Well, what is more important? Temps or silence? Decide that, and then go from there.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: johnnqq
the coolermaster specs can't be right...it has to be more like 25-30db.

actually the coolermaster specs are even quieter....as JBDan stated-- more like around--

24-25dBA would be my guess on the CM's

 

[entropy1982]

Originally posted by: tasburrfoot78362

Originally posted by: entropy1982
I'm thinkin about these fans now: http://tekgems.com/Products/et-13714-fan-d12sm-12.htm
I will be doing some serious overclocking so I want to make sure my temps are good.
I think I would get the CoolerMasters if 44CFM is enough. How do I know how much airflow i really need? Is 44CFM enough.... or will i see a decent improvement with the 70CFM yate loon fans?

Well, what is more important? Temps or silence? Decide that, and then go from there.

well... i mean if it's a 1 degree C improvement for quite a bit more noise.... i'll go with quiet... but if it's like 3-5... then i dont mind a little noise... i live above like 5 highways in nyc... so there is quite a bit of background noise as is at all times here that I filter out automatically

 

[Fresh Daemon]

I've actually used both the Coolermaster and the Yate Loons. The noise level is pretty hard to distinguish and, unless you have very quiet PSU/CPU/GPU fans, will be almost impossible to make out. However, the Loons have a slightly smoother sound to them which, to me, is less intrusive. This may be because Coolermaster uses the clear plastic frames and blades, which are generally more prone to vibration.

On the clear plastic Loons this obviously may not apply. I haven't tried those.

 

[JBDan]

Originally posted by: entropy1982

Originally posted by: tasburrfoot78362

Originally posted by: entropy1982
I'm thinkin about these fans now: http://tekgems.com/Products/et-13714-fan-d12sm-12.htm
I will be doing some serious overclocking so I want to make sure my temps are good.
I think I would get the CoolerMasters if 44CFM is enough. How do I know how much airflow i really need? Is 44CFM enough.... or will i see a decent improvement with the 70CFM yate loon fans?

Well, what is more important? Temps or silence? Decide that, and then go from there.

well... i mean if it's a 1 degree C improvement for quite a bit more noise.... i'll go with quiet... but if it's like 3-5... then i dont mind a little noise... i live above like 5 highways in nyc... so there is quite a bit of background noise as is at all times here that I filter out automatically

Then I would go with the clear Yate You can always install SpeedFan or use a controller to tame it.

 

[mcbarnet007]

becareful how they measures the noise. Some can be from 1 feet some can be from 3 feet. You should ask someone with both fans (exact model). Or you can go to the quite cooling site and see if you can find any comparison. I just ordered the Yate and I'll report back with performance compare with Adda, Evercool, and Panaflo fans.

 

[Shadowknight]

I believe the ISO standards for measuring fan noise specifies a 1m distance when measuring fan noise. Except for Nexus, I don't really know of companies that follow this standard. Not to say there's not, but most don't.