Torchlight

lupi

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Been playing pat4 and sh4 mostly of late, but last night didn't feel like playing anything long so I decided to start up torchlight for the first time to get an in game look at the ui/classes.

Wow, if only diablo2 still looked this good I'd still be playing that regularly. Going into the game I liked that there were only 3 classes since I generally hate having to read about different class/skill combos that make the game most enjoyable. I was then somewhat disheartened to then fins that each of those three classes have 3 different skill trees.

While I generally prefer mage type classes, I went melee first as most of these games seems easiest in that form and it was good simple fun to walk through the first couple levels of the mine I did just smacking everything down. I did come across several point where the game swarms you a bit with small minimal damage mobs though which I wonder how the other two range classes would handle.

While there isn't any multiplay coop, can't say I'm missing it as the game seems scaled so far well enough for a solo experience and unless you were playing with known teammates in the diablo series, I didn't really find multiplay there all that special.

I believe there are 3 tiers of magic equipment, and I've already gotten 4 of the second tier...although all seem to be stat'ed better for a mage than fighter. Also, any site out there that has details for the transmute function of the game to save time (and items) of self experimentation?
 

shortylickens

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If looks and gameplay are important to you, go buy Titan Quest Gold. Its now available for 5 dollars.
 

lupi

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Already have TQ: haven't played it much cause I have as yet to study which of the 900 class combos I should play.
 

shortylickens

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Already have TQ: haven't played it much cause I have as yet to study which of the 900 class combos I should play.

Or you could just play it instead of waiting 5 years to analyze each combo.
Also, because of the way the skills work its better to max out one or two in each mastery as opposed to spreading the points over every ability. To that end picking your favorite combo is pretty easy. For rogue/hunter I just used abilities that directly added to my attack, and the shooting blades for a right-click attack. Simple. Works.
 

Aikouka

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I have about 20 classes in Torchlight with mods. You almost need mods to alleviate the painful aspects of the game that only seem to be there to make you play more.
 

lupi

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What do you do for handling the special abilities. Seems you can't hotkey the skills and you only otherwise have rapid access to 2.
 

chorb

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What do you do for handling the special abilities. Seems you can't hotkey the skills and you only otherwise have rapid access to 2.

you can map your skills/spells to number buttons 0-9. just left click on the 0-9 icon in you HUD and it'll allow you to choose.

If you have a multi button mouse you can set those as macros (externally) to be 0-9 buttons also.
 

chorb

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I just started playing this earlier this week myself, its been a good mindless slash and hack.

As others have stated you need mods to fix some of the gameplay issues (enchanting wipes, underpowered 2 handed weapons). I recommend using a program called torchleech to handle the mods.
 

Nintendesert

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Torchlight 2 will be amazing. I loved Torchlight for some good mindless fun with a great atmosphere to it, so the multiplayer aspect of T2 will make it a day 1 buy for me.
 

Firsttime

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I love Torchlight. I just started a Ranged class on very hard. I kinda money hacked my first way through so I'm trying to keep it legit this time. I tried starting as a Mage on very hard and got wrecked on the first boss fight. I just didn't have any decent spells by the time I was there. Just curious if there is anything special you guys do with Mages because this game seems very slanted towards the rouge type stuff. Ricochet and her Needles spells are just too beast at lower levels and the guns keep you out of range of all those big troll things there are early on.
 

jlee

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Meh, I think Diablo 2 looks better than Torchlight.

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ooook!
 

Aikouka

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Is there a lot more grinding than in Fate?

I never played Fate, but the biggest problem I found is the incredibly exponential cost of enchanting. Even if you remove the disenchant chance, it still can cost a ton per enchant (around 15-20k). The only way to really make that kind of money is using the mod to raise epic/legendary sell prices and a mod to make the game mostly drop epics, legendaries and sets. I still run out of money a lot thouh because of how much it costs per enchant.
 

motsm

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Yeah, I'll take quality 2D over ugly 3D any day, and in my opinion, Torchlight is one hideous game. Bad animations, extremely blurry textures, blocky character models, it has it all really. You can play Diablo 2 in high resolution as well, and it looks far better than Torchlight to me.
 

Craig234

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The last few times I went back and tried to play Diablo II a bit, the 800x600 graphics were just too bad to play - I try to remember how it was very enjoyable earlier.

Maybe it has to do with playing on a larger monitor (27" currently I think).

Diablo I is scary for a whole new reason.
 

lupi

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yeah, not sure what he's thinking. i'm doing torch at 19*12 and it looks great, d2 at this spec looks like d1.
 
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CurseTheSky

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The biggest problem with Torchlight is that it lacks the atmosphere of Diablo 2, and especially of Diablo 1. You don't really care what you're killing, as long as it gives loot. You don't care where you're going, as long as it's forward.

It's a GREAT game as a cheap time killer, but I would have never paid more than $15-20 for it. TQ, on the other hand, I would have shelled out up to $30-35 for.