Top al-Qaida-linked militant killed

[tomywishbone]

Maybe we can get his limo driver next week, and his shoe cobbler the following week.


By the way... we didn't defeat communism by killing every single communist. You can't kill them all.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: palehorse74
for those who cannot recognize it, this is actually good news.

one more down... a few thousand more to go.

See, that's the problem. People think winning the war on terrorism is a matter of killing all the terrorists without any sort of overall strategy. If this war is won that way, it would be the first.

wrong.. it is just the reality that -I- face every day.

That said, there are plenty of efforts being made to find and take out their Achilles heels. It will take a longggggg time to do it either way -- which is what everyone needs to start accepting.

Which part of what I said was "wrong"? That people think that way, or that it's not true?

And the only reason it will take a "longggggg time" to actually accomplish the big picture mission is that way more focus is going into the wack-a-mole approach than in actually trying to accomplish some kind of strategic goal. And while I'm sure a front line grunt such as yourself is an expert in the strategic thinking that's going into the war on terrorism, you'll forgive me if I don't take your word for it that the work being done now is the best we can do.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: daveshel
That is about as useful as knocking out a shark's tooth.

/whine
Ah. You are a fatalistic, defeatist... something. Please don't comment when someone imposes their will upon you. Just whimper, ok? You'll lose credibility if you resist.

It's not that it's bad news; it's just that everytime one is killed, ~10 more are created. perfect analogy to the shark tooth

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

It's not that it's bad news; it's just that everytime one is killed, ~10 more are created. perfect analogy to the shark tooth

Evidence? Link? Because that talking point, er...line of thinking, is a little stale.

I know a bit about the demography of Islamic terrorists, and to my knowledge, very few get into the business because some government killed a terrorist family member.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: cwjerome

Originally posted by: zinfamous

It's not that it's bad news; it's just that everytime one is killed, ~10 more are created. perfect analogy to the shark tooth

Evidence? Link? Because that talking point, er...line of thinking, is a little stale.

I know a bit about the demography of Islamic terrorists, and to my knowledge, very few get into the business because some government killed a terrorist family member.

k then, so the family members don't join up, in your mind....interesting. where is proof of your demographic expertise?

 

[Lemon law]

Hate is an emotion---and there is little shortage of the triggers of that---and an emotion is as valid as a fact. Empathy---the ability to see others sides viewpoint is the shortage too many exhibit a total lack of.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Hate is an emotion---and there is little shortage of the triggers of that---and an emotion is as valid as a fact. Empathy---the ability to see others sides viewpoint is the shortage too many exhibit a total lack of.

stop trying to sound profound; because, your posts don't always make sense. You're no Moonbeam.

Please write in simple English from now on... thanks.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Hate is an emotion---and there is little shortage of the triggers of that---and an emotion is as valid as a fact. Empathy---the ability to see others sides viewpoint is the shortage too many exhibit a total lack of.

stop trying to sound profound; because, your posts don't always make sense. You're no Moonbeam.

Please write in simple English from now on... thanks.

How was that not simple? It was a well-written, concise statement, that anyone on these forums should be able to understand.
And it applies to the current debate over "how to solve the terrorism problem."
It's a total lack of empathy, and overall blindness (inability to recognize themselves and their policies as a cause of the problem), that those leading this war lack.

 

[keird]

Um... that isn't what war is about. Please read history books and reputable news sources rather than have what you 'feel' guide your opinions. Nor is the conflict about how Palestinians or Israelis 'feel', or the lack of. Are you suggesting that if one side empathized with their opponent that there could be a real possibility for peace? Are you advocating that both sides stop killing each other and have some sort of 'sensing'? Are you a big fan of the U.N?

If only the sun stopped shining then there would be a real possibility of reduction in global warming.

War is about changing another nation's will. Remember that.

 

[Lemon law]

To Kierd---who notes---War is about changing another nation's will. Remember that. ---and also asks
Are you a big fan of the U.N?

I will take the UN over war any day---making war is easy---and you no doubt don't like your will being broken.---either does anyone else---push anyone to the wall and see what happens.

But if you insist on war---that will be your ultimate fate.---unless you just prefer to send others to die for you---and one day when the supply runs out--they will come for you if your side does not win.

 

[Schadenfroh]

yay

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: keird
War is about changing another nation's will. Remember that.

So true. Or more specifically, it's about imposing YOUR will. The concept of warfare hasn't really changed for 7000+ years. Yet most people don't really analyze that idea (what it truly means and its implications) in-depth.

Much of the world, especially our enemies, understand it perfectly. They know conventional armies aren't necessary... or even preferred. All they really need is a media (and loud, useful idiots in the target country also help). They know that American resolve withers fairly quickly once body bags are shipped home. They don't need ANY major victories... just time. Our will is our weak spot.

Honestly though, regarding Iraq specifically, we have failed in our overall mission due to poor political leadership. It definitely doesn't help our national will either when things are bungled. We have the military, the tactics and knowledge, the technology, etc... it's the maneuvering through the political jungle that kills us every time.

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
To Kierd---who notes---War is about changing another nation's will. Remember that. ---and also asks
Are you a big fan of the U.N?

I will take the UN over war any day---making war is easy---and you no doubt don't like your will being broken.---either does anyone else---push anyone to the wall and see what happens.

But if you insist on war---that will be your ultimate fate.---unless you just prefer to send others to die for you---and one day when the supply runs out--they will come for you if your side does not win.

I really can't understand your post. Please rephrase.