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Originally posted by: CPA
Accountant is 44 🙁 At least I make a much more than the average pay. 😀

The list is rather poor. The average is only ~$10k higher than an accounting major with a pulse can get at the big 4.

Also, notice the "top job in the field" is tax accountant IV at $80k with no mention of partner. Same deal with lawyers.
 
Originally posted by: Sureshot324
Originally posted by: Dizway
Average salaries seem high.......

no kidding. School administrator makes 80k average? wtf?

its not start out salary, but an average of all school administrators....i think $80k for school principles is pretty reasonable.
 
Those salaries seem way high but I wont complain since I got at least double to triple the salary for most of those jobs.

30 Physician/Surgeon 23.98% $247,536

🙂
 
Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Originally posted by: JS80
2. College professor - I guess easy job but you pretty much reach a top once you become one (unless you're in a field that has opportunity to do consulting work for $150/hour). Plus it's pretty fvcking hard to become one.

It's not an easy job. Dealing with college students is one of the hardest tasks on this planet (if you actually care about their education), especially when you're an assistant professor trying to get a tenured job, so you're working on your second book, and that research consumes your life. You are most definately not at the top once you become one. You start out as an assistant professor, work your way to an associate professor, then you get to become a full professor. Your work is always being criticized by your associates, and even people you've never met. The politics in academia are horrid. That said, it's the best job in the world.



definately not an easy path, getting a phd from a good school is pretty hard then you work like a slave for 6 more years to get published in top journals to get tenure. then you get paid around $100K more or less depending on your field (100k is average for business profs). then on top of teaching you still have to produce research, so I would say 40 hours of work a week year round if you're getting ready to retire, 60 hours a week is average for average profs, and 80+ if you're famous in your field.

and anyone whjo thinks my numbers are too high don;t know how time and effort Profs take to groom their PhD students that they advise.

I was almost a PhD student, but my mentor for when i was a master's advised me to work for a few years first, because its one of things that you can do, but unless you really love you'll hate your life and be over educated to do anything else.
 
Originally posted by: slatr
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Originally posted by: CPA
Accountant is 44 At least I make a much more than the average pay.
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I'm surprised it's even on the list!
<---majoring in accounting (graduating in 3.5 weeks!)
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Yes, but CPA > Accountant is similar to M.D. > Nurse

Go ahead and get your 150 hours of credit and be a CPA

Oh gee really? Thank you captain obvious.
Excellent quoting skills BTW.
 
i have no idea what they mean by "financial advisor." They have portfolio manager listed, so i'm guessing they mean asset management.
 
Originally posted by: Hyudra
i have no idea what they mean by "financial advisor." They have portfolio manager listed, so i'm guessing they mean asset management.

Career description
Advise clients on financial plans utilizing knowledge of tax and investment strategies, securities, insurance, pension plans, and real estate. Duties include assessing clients' assets, liabilities, cash flow, insurance coverage, tax status, and financial objectives to establish investment strategies.
 
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Weird, i dont think they are paying software engineers anywhere near that in india.

45% growth! in New Delhi...

Thank you.

This list is bullshit. These salaries are not at all realistic unless you are living in NYC. And even then some of them seem like a stretch. Average lawyers making $150k? Did the sample consist of Harvard Lawschool grad's or something?

College professor #2? WTF? This should be #2 on the list of WORST possible jobs. With schools cutting costs it is almost impossible to get a full time job as a professor. And then the pay still sucks - especially when you consider all the debt you ought to have.
 
Financial advising is a sales position in my book, which is the description you have listed. However they list an analyst/manager position in asset management as the top career in financial advising.

Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: Hyudra
i have no idea what they mean by "financial advisor." They have portfolio manager listed, so i'm guessing they mean asset management.

Career description
Advise clients on financial plans utilizing knowledge of tax and investment strategies, securities, insurance, pension plans, and real estate. Duties include assessing clients' assets, liabilities, cash flow, insurance coverage, tax status, and financial objectives to establish investment strategies.

 
Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Weird, i dont think they are paying software engineers anywhere near that in india.

45% growth! in New Delhi...

Thank you.

This list is bullshit. These salaries are not at all realistic unless you are living in NYC. And even then some of them seem like a stretch. Average lawyers making $150k? Did the sample consist of Harvard Lawschool grad's or something?

College professor #2? WTF? This should be #2 on the list of WORST possible jobs. With schools cutting costs it is almost impossible to get a full time job as a professor. And then the pay still sucks - especially when you consider all the debt you ought to have.

Just so you know...salary.com is very accurate. There really isn't a better place for compensation info out there.

 
Wow, my primary job is #8.
That average salary is a little low for most areas.

JS80: You pretty much think that every job sucks I take it?
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Weird, i dont think they are paying software engineers anywhere near that in india.

45% growth! in New Delhi...

Thank you.

This list is bullshit. These salaries are not at all realistic unless you are living in NYC. And even then some of them seem like a stretch. Average lawyers making $150k? Did the sample consist of Harvard Lawschool grad's or something?

College professor #2? WTF? This should be #2 on the list of WORST possible jobs. With schools cutting costs it is almost impossible to get a full time job as a professor. And then the pay still sucks - especially when you consider all the debt you ought to have.

Just so you know...salary.com is very accurate. There really isn't a better place for compensation info out there.

Haha, accurate??? Keep thinking that.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Weird, i dont think they are paying software engineers anywhere near that in india.

45% growth! in New Delhi...

Thank you.

This list is bullshit. These salaries are not at all realistic unless you are living in NYC. And even then some of them seem like a stretch. Average lawyers making $150k? Did the sample consist of Harvard Lawschool grad's or something?

College professor #2? WTF? This should be #2 on the list of WORST possible jobs. With schools cutting costs it is almost impossible to get a full time job as a professor. And then the pay still sucks - especially when you consider all the debt you ought to have.

Just so you know...salary.com is very accurate. There really isn't a better place for compensation info out there.

Well, search for lawyer on salary.com and you will find "attorney I, II, and III."

Salary.com does not explain what the difference is but attorney III makes 2x what attorney I makes but report only includes the salary for "attorney III."
 
Originally posted by: Playmaker
Originally posted by: CPA
Accountant is 44 🙁 At least I make a much more than the average pay. 😀

The list is rather poor. The average is only ~$10k higher than an accounting major with a pulse can get at the big 4.

Also, notice the "top job in the field" is tax accountant IV at $80k with no mention of partner. Same deal with lawyers.
Yup list is BS. Fortune reported the average pay for a senior at E&Y this year was $61,905. And that's what, two to three years out of college? Top job pays 80k? Forget partner, the average manager at PwC makes $83,334! I don't exactly agree that anyone with a pulse can get a Big 4 job, but it's sure a hell of a lot easier than being a professor.
 
The list is too general. College Professor is a terrible #2 because of the years of opportunity costs associated with reaching college "PROFESSOR" and the absence of geographical flexibility, in most cases. If you get into a PhD program right out of undergrad you will most likely get an assistantship, or a fellowship if you are hot ******. At uf the lowest assistantships are ~$10,000, while the highest (usually engineering students) cap out at $25,000. Some get higher, but it's very rare. You spend 5-6 years making this low salary, unless you get a second job, racking up debt while working 55-65 hours a week (assistantship = 20-25 hours + 9-12 hours of class + 18-30 hours of coursework and research). When you get out you put in the same amount of work, but you just teach the classes. The thing is, the field is so competetive that many recent PhDs have to get post-doc or instructor positions before they're employable. Those positions make roughly half what an assistant professor makes. Once you have a year or two done as an instructor you send out your resumes and hope that you get picked up at a good school.

Basically, if you're a medical, engineering, or business/economics professor (some others) you make bank and can achieve a relatively nice geographic mobility. These guys can make $100 grand easy, and can make much higher if they consult on the side. If you're in the humanities, however, then the list is too generous.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Why do people get so offeneded about their jobs?
It's a job, not your life.

I'm just saying that the list is a poor analysis of the job market. Money Magazine sucks.
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SampSon
Why do people get so offeneded about their jobs?
It's a job, not your life.

I'm just saying that the list is a poor analysis of the job market. Money Magazine sucks.

Correct. They define 'best' jobs as having the most growth and highest pay:disgust:

What about teachers, cops, firemen, social workers, etc, etc
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SampSon
Why do people get so offeneded about their jobs?
It's a job, not your life.

I'm just saying that the list is a poor analysis of the job market. Money Magazine sucks.
I suppose. I would put more bank on their analysis than yours. But I guess it's all subjective. College professors work their way into cushy positions, and they are not geographically limited like you say they are. If you look in any collegate magazine, like "science" for example, there are hundreds of positions available around the world.

My gf's sister is a phD working on being a professor. She's currently a research assistant or whatever you want to call it. From what I see and what she tells me, the perceived amount of work these people do is vastly overstated. In a normal "work week", she does half the amount of work I do, and her associates do even less. Of course there are only so many of thoes weeks in a school year. Summers are off, unless she takes an extra 10K or so to teach a short summer session.

Over all it's a good job if you're willing to put the time in. Though that can be said about most professions. You have to put your time in to achieve something.
 
Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Originally posted by: JS80
2. College professor - I guess easy job but you pretty much reach a top once you become one (unless you're in a field that has opportunity to do consulting work for $150/hour). Plus it's pretty fvcking hard to become one.

It's not an easy job. Dealing with college students is one of the hardest tasks on this planet (if you actually care about their education), especially when you're an assistant professor trying to get a tenured job, so you're working on your second book, and that research consumes your life. You are most definately not at the top once you become one. You start out as an assistant professor, work your way to an associate professor, then you get to become a full professor. Your work is always being criticized by your associates, and even people you've never met. The politics in academia are horrid. That said, it's the best job in the world.

In addition to all that hard work and stress, you have "office hours" during which hot college babes stop by your office and "I'll do anything to get a passing grade." College prof was 17th on the list until they took that into account.

 
This list might come in handy for me. I might have to change careers or look for something to do in retirement, if I can ever retire.

 
This list has to be entirely subjective. I'd rather be a System's Analyst than a software engineer(been both). It all depends on what you enjoy really.
 
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