Originally posted by: randumb
dell? wtf?
edit: i know they're efficient, but they don't exactly have the most innovative products
Originally posted by: loic2003
Microsoft suprised me.... I mean, where's the innovation?! They're just in the position they're in because people a simply used the their products and the average home user or business is too afraid/ignorant to try alternatives.
What are the MS innovations of the last 5 years?
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Dell and Sony should not be on that list.
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: loic2003
Microsoft suprised me.... I mean, where's the innovation?! They're just in the position they're in because people a simply used the their products and the average home user or business is too afraid/ignorant to try alternatives.
What are the MS innovations of the last 5 years?
Interface updates they stole from other people.
And of course, updates to their self-installing windows driver suite periodically.
How else can they sell businesses the same thing 4 times
2000
XP
2003
Vista
and even 2000 was based heavily on NT, but ill at least give them credit for that, 2000 was actually a significant upgrade with a lot of positive changes over NT.
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Dell and Sony should not be on that list.
why not? dell completely revolutionized supply chain management. it has kept their costs extremely low
Originally posted by: cchen
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: loic2003
Microsoft suprised me.... I mean, where's the innovation?! They're just in the position they're in because people a simply used the their products and the average home user or business is too afraid/ignorant to try alternatives.
What are the MS innovations of the last 5 years?
Interface updates they stole from other people.
And of course, updates to their self-installing windows driver suite periodically.
How else can they sell businesses the same thing 4 times
2000
XP
2003
Vista
and even 2000 was based heavily on NT, but ill at least give them credit for that, 2000 was actually a significant upgrade with a lot of positive changes over NT.
again, the criteria for the list is not based off of a company's products
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Dell and Sony should not be on that list.
why not? dell completely revolutionized supply chain management. it has kept their costs extremely low
Walmart did that years before.
Originally posted by: cchen
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Dell and Sony should not be on that list.
why not? dell completely revolutionized supply chain management. it has kept their costs extremely low
Walmart did that years before.
Walmart has a completely different SCM scheme than Dell does.
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Dell and Sony should not be on that list.
why not? dell completely revolutionized supply chain management. it has kept their costs extremely low
Walmart did that years before.
Originally posted by: ElFenix
starbucks wasn't innovative? how is managing to sell millions of people a $5 cup of hot water not innovative? no one else charge more than a dollar, and you weren't there just for the coffee... you were there for the donuts, or the gas.
Originally posted by: cchen
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Dell and Sony should not be on that list.
why not? dell completely revolutionized supply chain management. it has kept their costs extremely low
Walmart did that years before.
Walmart has a completely different SCM scheme than Dell does.
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: ElFenix
starbucks wasn't innovative? how is managing to sell millions of people a $5 cup of hot water not innovative? no one else charge more than a dollar, and you weren't there just for the coffee... you were there for the donuts, or the gas.
Pushing brand image to sell people overpriced items is absolutely nothing new. Many brand name clothing lines have been doing it for quite some time. Not that their stuff is bad, but no pair of jeans is worth $200 or more. Christ, think Ginsu knives. They're good, but they're not that-many-dollars good.
Speaking of which, look at another company on the list: BMW. They can and do get away with ridiculous mark-up over here simply because of the "imported" factor wherein people think they're getting something classy simply because it's from Europe. Go to Germany, and a BMW is akin to a Ford Taurus over here - nothing exceptionally special.
BMWs are nice cars, but they don't have anything you can't get in a Honda or Toyota for less, except for the name.
That said, I allow BMW to remain on this list because they ARE responsible, over history, for some remarkable innovations in engines, especially of the jet variety. They can stay.
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Pushing brand image to sell people overpriced items is absolutely nothing new. Many brand name clothing lines have been doing it for quite some time. Not that their stuff is bad, but no pair of jeans is worth $200 or more. Christ, think Ginsu knives. They're good, but they're not that-many-dollars good.
