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Top 15 worst cars ever made...

Ehh, I kind of agree with the Powler. If it's only got a 3.5 V6 in it, that's pretty emasculated for a car as aggressive looking as it is. Kinda puts it in the category of the Crossfire. Looks impressive, but nothing under the hood to show for it, you know?

The Aveo on the other hand isn't bad value for the money. Yeah it's underpowered but what do you expect for a price tag of $12k?
 
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Ehh, I kind of agree with the Powler. If it's only got a 3.5 V6 in it, that's pretty emasculated for a car as aggressive looking as it is. Kinda puts it in the category of the Crossfire. Looks impressive, but nothing under the hood to show for it, you know?

The Aveo on the other hand isn't bad value for the money. Yeah it's underpowered but what do you expect for a price tag of $12k?
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I'd just pony up the extra 2 grand and get a Honda Fit instead.
 
Notice that the list was exclusively Detroit, it didn't include a vast number of foreign shitboxes. The OP's title is a bit misleading.

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...and that list was written by someone who was trying to make a statement, not someone trying to make a good list.

..I mean, counting the Chrysler minivans twice, wtf was up there?
 
I always thought the prowler was underwhelming. Way, way too slow for its appearance and price.

Not sure chevette should be on that list. A ton of people bought those.

Hummer H2 doesn't really need to be on that list.
 
Truly a horrible list. I drove a Covair as a teenage drugstore delivery boy, it was a really fun car (once you got around the wheel tuck issue) so long as you didn't push it too far. A relative had an Edsel-great car, just not in tune with the times. And my '96 Grand Caravan was way better in design and build quality than the Toyota Sienna that replaced it after an accident.

Pinto & Vega were crappy cars, but there has been a whole lot worse. Where is the Gremlin, for example? The Yugo? The VW Thing? That mid-engine Fiat sports car (a friend got so fed up with his that he finally just walked away from it when it broke down on the highway yet again).
 
Where's the Neon? And the Fiero entry should have had a tidbit about the excellent 2nd gen that ran in '88. The Yugo should have definitely been on there.
 
Originally posted by: 996GT2
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Ehh, I kind of agree with the Powler. If it's only got a 3.5 V6 in it, that's pretty emasculated for a car as aggressive looking as it is. Kinda puts it in the category of the Crossfire. Looks impressive, but nothing under the hood to show for it, you know?

The Aveo on the other hand isn't bad value for the money. Yeah it's underpowered but what do you expect for a price tag of $12k?
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I'd just pony up the extra 2 grand and get a Honda Fit instead.
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Good luck with that. The problem is that you will never get a Fit for less thank 14K...most likely pay more if you want it anytime soon...and you can get an Aveo for well under 12K once incentives are involved. Not to mention that for a lot of people looking at cars in that range...2K+ is a large sum of money. You can always say...for another 2-3K I'd get XXXXX instead...but there is obviously a breaking point for everyone.
 
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: 996GT2
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Ehh, I kind of agree with the Powler. If it's only got a 3.5 V6 in it, that's pretty emasculated for a car as aggressive looking as it is. Kinda puts it in the category of the Crossfire. Looks impressive, but nothing under the hood to show for it, you know?

The Aveo on the other hand isn't bad value for the money. Yeah it's underpowered but what do you expect for a price tag of $12k?
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I'd just pony up the extra 2 grand and get a Honda Fit instead.
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Good luck with that. The problem is that you will never get a Fit for less thank 14K...most likely pay more if you want it anytime soon...and you can get an Aveo for well under 12K once incentives are involved. Not to mention that for a lot of people looking at cars in that range...2K+ is a large sum of money. You can always say...for another 2-3K I'd get XXXXX instead...but there is obviously a breaking point for everyone.
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That's true, but it's pretty easy to get a superior Kia Rio for the same $$, perhaps even less. Not that a Rio is badass or anything, but my gf has an '06, and it drives far better than an Aveo.
 
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Ehh, I kind of agree with the Powler. If it's only got a 3.5 V6 in it, that's pretty emasculated for a car as aggressive looking as it is. Kinda puts it in the category of the Crossfire. Looks impressive, but nothing under the hood to show for it, you know?

The Aveo on the other hand isn't bad value for the money. Yeah it's underpowered but what do you expect for a price tag of $12k?
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the list was top 15 detroit lemons, and of course it included a lot of cars that aren't particularly lemonish. nothing lemon about the H2 and excusion. the prowler wasn't a lemon either, though the 3.5 v6 wasn't particularly powerful at first (214 hp). the 253 hp version (not a bad figure 10 years ago) would have been better matched with a 6 speed instead of the 4 speed slushbox, though.


Originally posted by: Need4Speed
not to mention that the Caravan basically revolutionized the minivan business. like it or not.
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it invented the minivan business.
 
- Edsel? Overhyped surely, but not a bad car. The problem is that the way Ford hyped it, you'd have thought it would drive itself. No car at the time could have lived up to the marketing hype of the Edsel.

- Corvair? This is the reason for my enduring hatred of Nader. The Corvair certainly had its quirks, as did any car with a swing-axle suspension. But it was hardly a huge mistake (well, other than that 90-degree bend in the fan belt).

- Cimmaron? Again, not an awful car, just too much marketing. It was a compact, economy car that should never have been sold through Cadillac. That's all.

- Both the Chrysler Town & Country and the Dodge Caravan? They're the same car.

The list is just a way to bash Detroit, certainly not a well reasoned piece.

ZV
 
Thanks, I was running out of examples for the phrase "fluff piece." This was a blag post at best, and blogs are not the best places for lists to take seriously.
 
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Notice that the list was exclusively Detroit, it didn't include a vast number of foreign shitboxes. The OP's title is a bit misleading.

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...and that list was written by someone who was trying to make a statement, not someone trying to make a good list.

..I mean, counting the Chrysler minivans twice, wtf was up there?
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He must have owned a couple of them.
 
Originally posted by: Thump553
Truly a horrible list. I drove a Covair as a teenage drugstore delivery boy, it was a really fun car (once you got around the wheel tuck issue) so long as you didn't push it too far. A relative had an Edsel-great car, just not in tune with the times. And my '96 Grand Caravan was way better in design and build quality than the Toyota Sienna that replaced it after an accident.

Pinto & Vega were crappy cars, but there has been a whole lot worse. Where is the Gremlin, for example? The Yugo? The VW Thing? That mid-engine Fiat sports car (a friend got so fed up with his that he finally just walked away from it when it broke down on the highway yet again).
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That mid-engined Fiat (X1/9) was a great driver's car. You had to keep up on maintenance though. I think timing belts were supposed to be replaced every 26,000 miles or something like that. If they snapped with the engine running you were looking at a lot of money in major engine repairs.

I used to know a guy who raced one at Watkins Glen every summer when I lived in upstate NY. I've driven one too. They are really cool cars...and of course Pontiac copied it when they released the Fiero as did Toyota with the MR2.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
it invented the minivan business.
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If you are going to argue semantics than you'd better make sure that you say it invented the modern day minivan business ... because technically one could argue that it was the Stout Scarab that was the first minivan.

 
Originally posted by: Need4Speed
Originally posted by: ElFenix
it invented the minivan business.
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If you are going to argue semantics than you'd better make sure that you say it invented the modern day minivan business ... because technically one could argue that it was the Stout Scarab that was the first minivan.
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The modern minivan (that is, not the Scarab or the VW Microbus) actually originated at Ford, before Iacocca left for Chrysler. Ford had two competing designs, the Carousel, based on a shortened RWD Econoline platform, and the MiniMax, based on a non-existent (at that time) FWD platform. Ford dropped the designs, feeling that they would cannibalize sales of their large station wagons, but Iacocca had liked both and he later resurrected the ideas when he went to Chrysler.

ZV
 
Yeah you're right. Should have titled it the Worst 15 Cars to come out of Detroit. I didn't agree with all of them either, I just thought it was an interesting take.

Also I'm sure you can find someone for each and every one of those cars on the list that would defend them as good cars and that they shouldn't be up there.

And whoever said the AMC Gremlin belongs on the list can blow me. They may have been ugly but AMC made some friggin' reliable cars for pretty damn cheap. Chrysler was still using the old AMC straight 6 motor in their Jeeps up until a few years ago.
 
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