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Tooth extraction

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FelixDeKat said:
Thanks. I knew about this option, but decided against it. I dont when or IF I will ever be seen and every day the pain gets worse and worse despite the hydrocodone Im taking. You can only take one every six hours or you risk liver damage. And frankly I dont need anymore problems.

I was up every hour on the hour last night with a throbbing jaw. :'(
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Worst pain there is I would say 🙁

Well, the extraction will give you relief. Everyone brags about taking vics or whatever for pain, but when the pain is real bad nothing takes it away that easily.

Your wisdom tooth behind the one that is going to be extracted is totally in and you're chewing on it?
 
moshquerade said:
I wish he could afford to get the root canal done too, but sometimes that's not possible. He's got to get himself out of pain at this point.
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Especially since the infection that is likely causing it could actually kill him.

Shit, as I previously posted, I had a root canal done on a front tooth only to have to have it extracted 5 years later. He's going to pay for the extraction eventually. Might as well save the cost of the root canal and put it toward the implant at a later date.
 
moshquerade said:
I wish he could afford to get the root canal done too, but sometimes that's not possible. He's got to get himself out of pain at this point.
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Yup thats pretty much it. Ive had so much work done this year its not even funny. You name it, I had it done. All that adds up. And then throw in a root canal in the final month of the year and its the straw that broke the camels back.

Ive checked into an implant to replace the tooth one day......$4,000. D:
 
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thraashman said:
I'm curious by nature and very little bothers me. In the end it was an unpleasant sight. It didn't even bother me that much, but I know it would disgust others.
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I could actually see the entire procedure for the last root canal I had. One of the things they had over my head was a perfect mirror in the lighting so I got to watch him pull out the old material, scrape away the nerve tissue the previous two root canals on that tooth had missed and then watched him refill the canals and the big center hole. But, there wasn't really any blood since it was a re-treat. It was much more interesting than watching the ceiling the whole time.

And to the OP, the throbbing pain that keeps you up at night is the worst. I have found only two solutions, antibiotics if there is an infection, or the big 800mg pills of tylenol. Don't just take the pills, find out which one you need. For the infection, they wanted me to complete the antibiotic treatment before they did anything.
 
daishi5 said:
I could actually see the entire procedure for the last root canal I had. One of the things they had over my head was a perfect mirror in the lighting so I got to watch him pull out the old material, scrape away the nerve tissue the previous two root canals on that tooth had missed and then watched him refill the canals and the big center hole. But, there wasn't really any blood since it was a re-treat. It was much more interesting than watching the ceiling the whole time.

And to the OP, the throbbing pain that keeps you up at night is the worst. I have found only two solutions, antibiotics if there is an infection, or the big 800mg pills of tylenol. Don't just take the pills, find out which one you need. For the infection, they wanted me to complete the antibiotic treatment before they did anything.
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Yes, I forgot to mention that when I saw my dentist he wrote me a perscription for the pain pills and some 500mg's of penicillan which Im taking as well. I was taking Cipro about three weeks ago for a bladder infection, which was much better. Like I said, its been non stop for me. 😀
 
If you want to save money and the tooth there are a few options. Go to a dental school. Price will be cheaper but will be done by a student (supervised by a GP/specialist). This normally takes a longer but if you are lucky and get a 4th year and it might not be so bad.

Find a free clinic in your area. The doctor I work for volunteers for a place called The Suitcase Clinic which is associated with the Berkeley Free Clinic in Berkeley, CA. They do everything there but it's on a first come first serve basis. Most restorative and major work is done at no cost since all the supplies and equipment is donated by vendors and the doctors donate their time.

Also, you DON'T have to get the crown made now. Before they do a RC, they take an impression for the temp crown. He'll do the RC first then a second procedure called a build-up. Essentially it's the stump that the crown will be cemented to. The temp crown will be made from the initial impression they took and will be temporarily cemented to the build-up. I've seen these last for a year. Mind you there are draw backs to this but it'll save your tooth as well as give you more time to figure out a better solution than extraction.

PM me if you have more questions.

See if there is anything in your area that does the same thing. Hope this helps.

Edit: Try bartering with your doctor also. Our IT guy gets free dental work for free IT support. My cousin barters free exams/cleanings for yardwork. Doesn't hurt to try.
 
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I did have root canal before. IIRC, the dentist used some kind needle to inject something in my gum to get it numb. He then used something like a q tip that smelled like candy outside the gum.

FYI from my own experience, root canal and crown are not cure all. One of my teeth with root canal and crown on top broke recently (the crown is still intact, the base teeth just broke in half). I may have to do implant and I hear it is expensive.

Hummm....maybe I need to do the medical tourist thing oversea?
 
Svnla said:
I did have root canal before. IIRC, the dentist used some kind needle to inject something in my gum to get it numb. He then used something like a q tip that smelled like candy outside the gum.

FYI from my own experience, root canal and crown are not cure all. One of my teeth with root canal and crown on top broke recently (the crown is still intact, the base teeth just broke in half). I may have to do implant and I hear it is expensive.

Hummm....maybe I need to do the medical tourist thing oversea?
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That's not a root canal and you'd know if you had one.

What they do is that they drill off the entire inside of your tooth, use several sets off needles to scrape off the nerve and the root canal and clean it up with 99% ethanol (which smells nothing like any candy i have ever smelled), plug up the roots with some strange rubbery thingy and set a temporary filling which you'll have for a while, then the process starts over except this time you'll get your permanent filling.

Oh, and they usually seal off the rest of your mouth by attatching some rubber thingy around your tooth that they spread over your lips with some plastic when they clean it out

What you had sounds like a trip to the dental hygenist, not sure why she'd use lidocain before applying that "it tastes like banana" stuff to your teeth though.

You're right about implants, they are expensive if you have to pay for them yourself, from my experience they last a lot longer than a bridge or even a root canal though (my tooth became brittle after the root canal) and from what i have been told, around 97% of them cause no problems and are good even after 25 years. It might be worth the cash.

From what i am told, you should always check what nation the implant comes from though, or what brand and google it, if it's an asian version (Chinese or Japanese) it's not a good one, there have been a lot of problems with them.
 
JohnOfSheffield said:
That's not a root canal and you'd know if you had one.

What they do is that they drill off the entire inside of your tooth, use several sets off needles to scrape off the nerve and the root canal and clean it up with 99% ethanol (which smells nothing like any candy i have ever smelled), plug up the roots with some strange rubbery thingy and set a temporary filling which you'll have for a while, then the process starts over except this time you'll get your permanent filling.

Oh, and they usually seal off the rest of your mouth by attatching some rubber thingy around your tooth that they spread over your lips with some plastic when they clean it out

What you had sounds like a trip to the dental hygenist, not sure why she'd use lidocain before applying that "it tastes like banana" stuff to your teeth though.

You're right about implants, they are expensive if you have to pay for them yourself, from my experience they last a lot longer than a bridge or even a root canal though (my tooth became brittle after the root canal) and from what i have been told, around 97% of them cause no problems and are good even after 25 years. It might be worth the cash.

From what i am told, you should always check what nation the implant comes from though, or what brand and google it, if it's an asian version (Chinese or Japanese) it's not a good one, there have been a lot of problems with them.
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John, you aren't a dentist and it shows. 😛

They are files, not needles. They only drill out the root canal which houses the nerves/blood supply, not the "entire inside" of the tooth.

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The "candy" smelling thing he is referring to is topical anesthetic. That is rubbed on the gum with a wooden toothpick to numb the tissue prior to the injection. (I think he reversed the steps there) The topical anesthetic comes in different flavors. Which is why he smelled "candy". I think the pina colada flavor smells best myself.

That "rubbery thing" is called a rubber dam, and it's used to keep the field dry.

I understand you are recalling your observation from being the patient in the chair so you might not have it all figured out.


Lastly, you spelled Hygienist wrong. Kind of a pet peeve of mine. An easy way to remember it is Hygienists have two "i's" (eyes) just like everyone else does.
 
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moshquerade said:
John, you aren't a dentist and it shows. 😛

They are files, not needles. They only drill out the root canal which houses the nerves/blood supply, not the "entire inside" of the tooth.

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The "candy" smelling thing he is referring to is topical anesthetic. That is rubbed on the gum with a wooden toothpick to numb the tissue prior to the injection. (I think he reversed the steps there) The topical anesthetic comes in different flavors. Which is why he smelled "candy". I think the pina colada flavor smells best myself.

That "rubbery thing" is called a rubber dam, and it's used to keep the field dry.

I understand you are recalling your observation from being the patient in the chair so you might not have it all figured out.


Lastly, you spelled Hygienist wrong. Kind of a pet peeve of mine. An easy way to remember it is Hygienists have two "i's" (eyes) just like everyone else does.
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Heh, no i'm definently not a dentist and yes, it's my recollection as a patient, it hurt like bloody hell and i got an infection in it after he set the temp filling.

They numb your gums with topical lidocaine before the lidocaine injection? I thought they only did that with kids...

All hygeniest's i've met have two boobs, one is usually firmly planted in my face the whole time, perhaps if they stopped doing that i'd notice their eyes. 😛

Hygienists i mean. 😉
 
JohnOfSheffield said:
Heh, no i'm definently not a dentist and yes, it's my recollection as a patient, it hurt like bloody hell and i got an infection in it after he set the temp filling.

They numb your gums with topical lidocaine before the lidocaine injection? I thought they only did that with kids...

All hygeniest's i've met have two boobs, one is usually firmly planted in my face the whole time, perhaps if they stopped doing that i'd notice their eyes. 😛

Hygienists i mean. 😉
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Well, it's not supposed to hurt. It should be painless if done right. You had some bad luck or a shoddy dentist. 🙁

They numb your gum with a topical anesthetic before they put the needle in attempts to lessen the pain from the actual injection.

Yeh, the brushing of the boobs sometimes cannot be helped. Don't think it's done on purpose. :$
 
moshquerade said:
Well, it's not supposed to hurt. It should be painless if done right. You had some bad luck or a shoddy dentist. 🙁

They numb your gum with a topical anesthetic before they put the needle in attempts to lessen the pain from the actual injection.

Yeh, the brushing of the boobs sometimes cannot be helped. Don't think it's done on purpose. :$
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It does, even with one injection and washing the canal with lidocaine, if the nerves are not dead it hurts like hell, now, me being a real man and all that did not complain much until i bit down on one of those thingies he had in my tooth..

I like to flatter myself and believe she does it becuse i'm such a sexy man, it's probably the truth too because it's not just brushing, she actually plants it there and drags her cleavage over my face from time to time...

Don't worry, i'm not complaining though. 😉


EDIT: Just so you don't think so, i'm jesting, i in no way mean to put down your profession, a good dental hygeniest spares many a trips to the dentist.
 
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nice 😱

that tooth is like my worst nightmare for what might happen to my teeth

the sad thing is I'm terrible at taking care of them... I do go to the dentist once a year though and get any suggested fillings so, I hope I will avoid it getting that bad.
 
novasatori said:
nice 😱

that tooth is like my worst nightmare for what might happen to my teeth

the sad thing is I'm terrible at taking care of them... I do go to the dentist once a year though and get any suggested fillings so, I hope I will avoid it getting that bad.
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Ill admit it was my fault. I brushed every night before bed, but I ate lots of hard candy for the last couple of years. I had a cavity on that tooth and it was filled. A new cavity developed by the filling and resulted in the tooth you see above. Apparently the hard candy accumalted underneath the filling and wasnt completely removed with brushing alone. Ive only started using mouthwash as an extra precaution.

What they say about candy is true...watch it kiddos! D:

(Ive also been taking prednisone for years which made my teeth susceptible to this kind of thing)
 
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