Tool songs in weird meter (time signature)

Saint Nick

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Does anyone know what time signature the intro to "The Pot" is in? I'm trying to count 4/4, but it isn't working. Also, any idea what "Intension" is in?

HELP.
 

Platypus

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Danny changes the timing multiple times.

Vicarious sounds like 5/4 in places but not everywhere.
 

edro

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Who are you to wave your finger...you must have been out of your head!
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: Platypus
Danny changes the timing multiple times.

Vicarious sounds like 5/4 in places but not everywhere.

compound signatures can be a bitch.

 

VashHT

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For some reason I think the pot is 7/8, I can't check here at work though. btw you playing guitar or bass?
 

MyThirdEye

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isn't that the song where Danny plays in 5/4 and the guitar is in 4/4 and they meet up every 20 meters?
 

Saint Nick

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Originally posted by: MyThirdEye
isn't that the song where Danny plays in 5/4 and the guitar is in 4/4 and they meet up every 20 meters?

Dude are you sure? I was listening to the drums and it sounds like a measure of 6/8 and then a measure of 5/8...11/8 I guess? The drums don't sound really like they are "out of time" or anything.

Originally posted by: VashHT
For some reason I think the pot is 7/8, I can't check here at work though. btw you playing guitar or bass?

Um, I play both but I'm at work and just listening to the songs trying to count them out :)

I'm working on a cover of Lateralus someone on AT should help me with. I have the drums and the guitar covered. Need a bass player and a vocalist :)
 

Ns1

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the time signature in jambi + rosetta stoned is ridiculous

 

Saint Nick

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Rosetta Stoned is super ridiculous. Its in 4/4 for a while...then there is some part in 5/4, then it goes to 11/8 somewhere. LOL.

They are probably on mad amounts of LSD when they write this stuff.
 

Platypus

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I can do guitar or bass for your project NightDarker.

Consider using it in the AT Band thread! Contact rbv5 too.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: NightDarker
Me?

The chosen one.

They chose me.

And I didn't even graduate from fuckin' high school.

you believe me don't you? please believe what I just said...
 

Saint Nick

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God damn. Shit the bed.

Also, I think Rosetta Stoned might actually have more poly rhythms than Lateralus did, easily. WOW, this song is really fucking crazy.

Ns1, you will love this song live. Bring drugs.
 

Kev

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shit the bed again


Does anyone know of a site that can explain time signatures in a language a 5 year old could understand. I am a complete noob who has no musical background
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: NightDarker
God damn. Shit the bed.

8 days until my show.

can't wait.

have to move the day after. get wasted or not. LOL
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: NightDarker
God damn. Shit the bed.

Also, I think Rosetta Stoned might actually have more poly rhythms than Lateralus did, easily. WOW, this song is really fucking crazy.

Ns1, you will love this song live. Bring drugs.

heh, I've seen it 3 times already lol

Lateralus live > *

 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: Kev
shit the bed again


Does anyone know of a site that can explain time signatures in a language a 5 year old could understand. I am a complete noob who has no musical background

Yea, take for example a meter of 5/4

The top part (5) is easy. It just tells you how many beats in each measure.

So a time of 5/4 would be counted like

1-2-3-4-5

For instance, a waltz, is 3/4

1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3

Going back to the 5/4 count. If you have 4 measures of that, the total count equals 20.

1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5

So you can do 5x4=20

A compound meter might have the guitarist playing in 5/4 and the drummer playing in 4/4

If you play the guitar part (5/4) 4 times, the total beat count is 20. If you play the drum part (4/4) 5 times, the total beat count is 20.

While both guitar and drums have their own downbeat (1)-2-3-4-5 (the 1 is the downbeat usually), they also resolve back to a shared downbeat on the 20th beat (when they both fall back to 1 on the same beat)