Tonight's Dr. Who & Battlestar Galactica Episodes [11-10-2006]...

OrganizedChaos

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Originally posted by: Shawn
That was a disappointment! I wanted the cylons to get infected!

i wanted to see the mean cylon chick figure out baltar was learning to project and then be like omgwtfbbq!
 

OutHouse

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wow that was awesome!

im still waiting to learn who the last 5 skin jobs are. Is that worm Baltar one of the 5?
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: Citrix
wow that was awesome!

im still waiting to learn who the last 5 skin jobs are. Is that worm Baltar one of the 5?

no. baltar is human.
 

ViRGE

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I don't like the immunity thing, it reeks of deus ex machina.
 

Aimster

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since this show follows the first show in some ways..

is galactica going to find Earth?

Ive seen some old episodes and it seemed as if they were fighting the cylons with the help of the earthlings.

I hope if that happens none of them have special powers like the old ones. That would ruin it.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: Aimster
since this show follows the first show in some ways..

is galactica going to find Earth?

Ive seen some old episodes and it seemed as if they were fighting the cylons with the help of the earthlings.

I hope if that happens none of them have special powers like the old ones. That would ruin it.
Ugg, the super scouts. The less said the better.
 

illusion88

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It was pretty obvious that the virus wouldn't be released, it would make terrible television to kill off the bad guys (unless a new cylon fleet showed up :eek:)
We are yet to get a real answer on what number 6 is doing in Baltars head. She claims to be an Angel, but I doubt that. Also, what happened to Baltar beign in Capricas head? Did I miss something or.....

Needless to say I am pretty excited about the up coming episodes.
 

nageov3t

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just a random thought, but was it ever revealed where the cylons were in between the end of the first war and the start of the series?
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
I don't like the immunity thing, it reeks of deus ex machina.

That's not really deus ex machina.

Sample populations do indeed develop immunities to all hosts of diseases, and as such it is not over-whelming unreasonable to think that this particular population of humans developed some immunity to a disease hundreds of years ago.

For all intents and purposes the cylons and the humans can be thought of as different species, or at least most definitely a different cline. Therefore it is not improbable or unreasonable that a certain population or cline would have an immunity.

A deus ex machina scenario would imply that something is so unreasonable, so improbable that one would never expect it to happen and the solution wondrously and conveniently fixes the problem. A deus ex machina situation would be if Baltar woke up one day and realized that everything was just a dream. Not that some specific population has some disease immunity.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: ViRGE
I don't like the immunity thing, it reeks of deus ex machina.

That's not really deus ex machina.

Sample populations do indeed develop immunities to all hosts of diseases, and as such it is not over-whelming unreasonable to think that this particular population of humans developed some immunity to a disease hundreds of years ago.

For all intents and purposes the cylons and the humans can be thought of as different species, or at least most definitely a different cline. Therefore it is not improbable or unreasonable that a certain population or cline would have an immunity.

A deus ex machina scenario would imply that something is so unreasonable, so improbable that one would never expect it to happen and the solution wondrously and conveniently fixes the problem. A deus ex machina situation would be if Baltar woke up one day and realized that everything was just a dream. Not that some specific population has some disease immunity.
I meant Athena.
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: ViRGE
I don't like the immunity thing, it reeks of deus ex machina.

That's not really deus ex machina.

Sample populations do indeed develop immunities to all hosts of diseases, and as such it is not over-whelming unreasonable to think that this particular population of humans developed some immunity to a disease hundreds of years ago.

For all intents and purposes the cylons and the humans can be thought of as different species, or at least most definitely a different cline. Therefore it is not improbable or unreasonable that a certain population or cline would have an immunity.

A deus ex machina scenario would imply that something is so unreasonable, so improbable that one would never expect it to happen and the solution wondrously and conveniently fixes the problem. A deus ex machina situation would be if Baltar woke up one day and realized that everything was just a dream. Not that some specific population has some disease immunity.
I meant Athena.

That is arguably even worse for your opinion of a deus ex machina situation. Simply because what happened in the show can happen in real life.

The placenta is not an impermeable barrier, in fact quite the opposite - things diffuse readily across it. It is more typical to hear of the maternal blood flowing into the developing fetus, which has been understood to cause issues when the mother is Rh positive and the fetus is Rh negative.
The diffusion of materials is not one-way, and as such fetal materials can diffuse into the mother. In fact there are instances of researchers finding fetal blood material in the mother years and years (I think some were 20+ years) after the birth of the child. Therefore in the realm of a science-fiction show it is more than plausible (and actually quite real) to state that antibodies may diffuse across the placenta and be found in the mother, i.e. Athena.

It is less deus ex machina and more homo homini ex machina.
 

lyssword

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
Originally posted by: Shawn
That was a disappointment! I wanted the cylons to get infected!

i wanted to see the mean cylon chick figure out baltar was learning to project and then be like omgwtfbbq!

What do u mean learn to project? Doesn't he already do that? or you mean to control when and where he has his "dreams", because most of the time the woman in his head just randomly appears :)

And whats up with that thing in the ear? Why did he close his eyes, did he die or just pass out?
 

Toonces

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Good episode, I've been really pleased by the direction the writing's going after the season-end last year.

On a not too unrelated note: living in Vancouver is fun. Especially when you meet CG-artists who work on BSG and have read the scripts up to episode 18 ;)

A spoiler here and there during our conversation: "yeah, like when.... oh wait that hasn't aired yet" Damn him! :evil:
 

neutralizer

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I was wondering how Athena would get out of the situation, but the immunity thing definitely sounds plausible.
 

DanTMWTMP

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i've never been sooo into a show, enough to scream @ helo for what he did and stomp around the living room going "Grr! why?!?!" :p
I know it's just a fictional show, but the characters seem so real, so appealing, and..well, so real!

I really like Baltar's character. It's a love-hate thing. I hate what his character does, but I like his character. It's far and beyond much more superior than the crap baltar in the original show that did not make any sense at all (what was his motives? why did he do what he did? etc? it was comic-book like).

This Baltar is real, believable, and the actor is doing a phenominal job.

Why this show isn't even recognized by the emmy's is beyond me. This show, is far and away much better than any of the shows nominated in the emmys (ok, well, the ones in the emmys are all really good, but BSG is better in overall content and quality)
 

kaymin

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It's a good show. The quality isn't quite up to par with the first 1 1/2 seasons though, and not nearly as good as the miniseries. But that's to be expected I guess. At least, it isn't as bad as the 2nd half of the 2nd season though which really caused me to lose faith in the show.

Actually, I thought Helo acted kind of out of character when he sided with the Cylons. And I'm kind of sick of Baltar's expression. It's like he always has that same 'Oh no!' expression on his face whenever you see him now. And he really needs a haircut. I find the scenes with him and 6 kind of just an excuse to show a scantily clad female along with some filler.

Still probably the best sci fi show on tv now though. It blows Stargate away which has degenerated to utter trash since teh 8th season.