Shh... don't blow their cover. It was invented as a way for them to get drugs. But then stupid people thought it was real and now need non-druggie remedies for their fake syndrome.
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Cdubneeddeal
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TallBill
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While I cant speak about what others have experienced, I actually do suffer from RLS, and have pretty much my entire life. It has nothing to do with my diet, excersises, or anything. Sometimes my legs just go nuts.
There are no words to describe what I feel in my leg. Varely rarely will it cause spasms, but often I have to move my legs around to ease the "pain". What I feel isn't a cramp or soreness. It just drives me fucking insane. I used to call them "crazy legs".
So go ahead and call bullshit all you want, but my legs are fucking crazy sometimes.
TallBill
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It's a proven nuerological disorder...
http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disor...ess_legs.htm#106053237
I do personally think that some of these guys that are supposedly getting RLS from ecxersise are falsely mis-diagnosing themselves.
halik
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Every single personality/character trait is chemical imbalance - aggressive/illtempered guys tend to have higher level of testosterone,shitty diet leads to lower levels of seratonin which effects REM sleep and that in turn can turn in you in one of those not-a-morning-people.
And yea sometimes i get muscle spasm on random parts of my body... OH NOES! I think I caught the muscle-twichinitis or MTS. Please sell me some drugs now.
This is pretty much the same thing like U.S. doctors wanting to pull everyone's wisdom teeth out. My first visit to a U.S. dentist (~2000) the guy was trying to sell me on the procedure. Low and behold, 5 years later a study comes out that removing impacted wisdom teeth has virtually no health benefits over leaving 'em in.
Amused
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I hate to say it, but this is why it's best to run/exercise in the AM. Exercise in the PM will screw with your sleep.
Get out of bed earlier and run before work. It is better for you in SO many ways. You will sleep better, have more energy thoughout the day and your stress levels during the day will benefit as well. ALWAYS workout in the AM. It's easy, go to bed earlier and get up earlier.
You're probably right. But I've suffered the same thing from exercise and the symptoms are somewhat similar.
What he's more than likely suffering from is cramping, aches and pains. The aches and pains go away when he moves his legs. Therefore people confuse it with RLS. He feels the need to move his legs because they hurt. He's going from intense exercise to complete inactivity. This is why it's best to run in the AM and then use your legs all day. The cramping goes away because the chemical build up in the muscles is worked out.
http://www.peoplespharmacy.com...t_not_without_risk.asp
Tonic water is a CLASSIC cure for leg cramps. THIS is why it helps people who think they have RLS but really have cramps that ease when the legs are moved.
Google tonic water +cramps to find an endless number of references to this.
It's a pitty that simple exercise induced cramping is confused as "RLS" and now classified as a "disease" treated by expensive and dangerous drugs when simple timing of exercise and natural tonic water helps.
Get out of bed earlier and run before work. It is better for you in SO many ways. You will sleep better, have more energy thoughout the day and your stress levels during the day will benefit as well. ALWAYS workout in the AM. It's easy, go to bed earlier and get up earlier.
You're probably right. But I've suffered the same thing from exercise and the symptoms are somewhat similar.
What he's more than likely suffering from is cramping, aches and pains. The aches and pains go away when he moves his legs. Therefore people confuse it with RLS. He feels the need to move his legs because they hurt. He's going from intense exercise to complete inactivity. This is why it's best to run in the AM and then use your legs all day. The cramping goes away because the chemical build up in the muscles is worked out.
http://www.peoplespharmacy.com...t_not_without_risk.asp
Tonic water is a CLASSIC cure for leg cramps. THIS is why it helps people who think they have RLS but really have cramps that ease when the legs are moved.
Google tonic water +cramps to find an endless number of references to this.
It's a pitty that simple exercise induced cramping is confused as "RLS" and now classified as a "disease" treated by expensive and dangerous drugs when simple timing of exercise and natural tonic water helps.
Cdubneeddeal
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From what I read of that is RLS is caused by something else. I'm not a doctor but wouldn't it be better to cure whatever is causing the RLS rather than taking a pill to treat RLS?
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I wish I could, but I have to be at work at 7am, it takes me almost an hour to get here, and I work at least 10 hours every day. The only chance I get to work out during the week is in the evenings. And it did used to mess with my sleep really badly, but I've gotten past that. I'm so tired when I lay down that even the chihuahuas can't keep me from passing out.
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And out come the armchair skeptics. Now I'm as skeptical as the next guy, but I'm also skeptical of skeptics. Show me the data. Hell, I don't even need a link, just give me something more than a two line rant about fat people or the sinister cabal of pill-peddling doctors and pharmaceutical execs.
Heh, it's amazing what people do to solve common problems. Drug themselves up.
I guess I could say I have suffered from RLS my whole life, as I have had a deep leg ache off and on from childhood. It keeps me up all night sometimes. It only got worse after my 2nd knee surgery.
What do I do? Take a couple advil and try to get some rest.
As far as ADD/ADHD, I think it's bullshit. Why? Because kids have always acted up, especially during situations where they are constrained. Add to the fact that parents spoil kids quite a bit, the fact that the kids are subjected to a constant bombarding of video games and flashy TV, you get problems focusing. IMHO, it has more to do with how we are raising kids rather than how they are hardwired. Add to that the fact that our educational system really tries to fit square pegs into round holes, rather than being more practical for kids not really bound for college, you get a situation where they hate going to physics class when they will end up being trade-people (which isn't a bad thing and not saying they aren't smart), and acting up accordingly.
Overall, it's a societal issue, not a biological one.
I guess I could say I have suffered from RLS my whole life, as I have had a deep leg ache off and on from childhood. It keeps me up all night sometimes. It only got worse after my 2nd knee surgery.
What do I do? Take a couple advil and try to get some rest.
As far as ADD/ADHD, I think it's bullshit. Why? Because kids have always acted up, especially during situations where they are constrained. Add to the fact that parents spoil kids quite a bit, the fact that the kids are subjected to a constant bombarding of video games and flashy TV, you get problems focusing. IMHO, it has more to do with how we are raising kids rather than how they are hardwired. Add to that the fact that our educational system really tries to fit square pegs into round holes, rather than being more practical for kids not really bound for college, you get a situation where they hate going to physics class when they will end up being trade-people (which isn't a bad thing and not saying they aren't smart), and acting up accordingly.
Overall, it's a societal issue, not a biological one.
Amused
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Originally posted by: Megatomic
I'm not a morning person, getting up at 5 is hard enough.
What time it is, is irrelevant. If you can spend an hour exercising in the evening you can just go to bed earlier, and get up earlier to exercise.
It may be hard at first, but you'll feel MUCH better in the long run.
This is RLS. I never talked to my doctor about it because how do you tell someone about something you can't explain. Your legs just gradually feel like they need to move and it gets worse and worse until you actually move them, then it subsides for about half a second and starts over. I don't know that pain is the word I would use to describe it, it's just annoying.
SphinxnihpS
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ADHD is another way of saying, 'bored to death child that needs more time outside doing stuff', but let's drug them instead, to make them easier to deal with. You honestly think we went through recorded history with all these kids having ADHD and no Ritalin, and survived? It's kids being kids in a world where adults can no longer deal with them, period!
RLS is something wrong with your lifestyle. The only people I have ever known to have this are seriously overweight. Has it spread to normal people now, too?
RLS is something wrong with your lifestyle. The only people I have ever known to have this are seriously overweight. Has it spread to normal people now, too?
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