[Tom's] Haswell uses "20nm" technology

[NTMBK]

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Rani-Borkar-Haswell-Intel-Core-Computex-Battery-Life,news-44156.html

No real news here, just... lol. Where the hell do they hire these guys? They can't even copy a press release correctly.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Maybe he meant 20 ish nm

 

[NTMBK]

Also:

"Haswell represents an update to Intel's instruction set architecture which it delivers every two years."

Oh dear, oh dear.

 

[Abwx]

For the uninformed general public it make sense , or at least
they could hardly dismiss anything...

 

[inf64]

Well Haswell adds AVX2 and FMA3 so it is an update on ISA support front too.

 

[NTMBK]

Well Haswell adds AVX2 and FMA3 so it is an update on ISA support front too.

But by that logic, Ivy Bridge also counts as it added the 16-bit float conversion instructions.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Also:

"Haswell represents an update to Intel's instruction set architecture which it delivers every two years."

Oh dear, oh dear.

He must have meant the tick/tock cycle. Every two years is a "tock" which includes new architecture and one would assume new instructions as well.

 

[inf64]

But by that logic, Ivy Bridge also counts as it added the 16-bit float conversion instructions.

Sure, but Haswell's ISA extensions are major updates that required some big changes in the design.

 

[Haserath]

Also:

"Haswell represents an update to Intel's instruction set architecture which it delivers every two years."

Oh dear, oh dear.

Haswell is the tock. Intel states that to be their uarch update, just like Nehalem and SB.

Ivy Bridge didn't receive any extensive changes, at least nothing compared to their tocks.

 

[NTMBK]

Haswell is the tock. Intel states that to be their uarch update, just like Nehalem and SB.

Ivy Bridge didn't receive any extensive changes, at least nothing compared to their tocks.

If he meant "tock", he should have said "tock". Instead he tried to make it sound more precise and technical, and in the process he got it wrong. Any chip with new instructions is an adjustment to Intel's ISA, not just their tocks.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Toms is just becoming a joke...

 

[Maximilian]

What happened to tom anyways?

 

[Idontcare]

What happened to tom anyways?

The standard cycle when a small journalism business is bought out by a big media conglomerate...the focus and corporate culture is centered on churning page views and driving ad revenue, quality of the articles and considerations for the reader fall way down the list of priorities.

 

[CakeMonster]

If I remember correctly, I think I read that Tom was doing something completely different already 10 years ago.

 

[Harabec]

The standard cycle when a small journalism business is bought out by a big media conglomerate...the focus and corporate culture is centered on churning page views and driving ad revenue, quality of the articles and considerations for the reader fall way down the list of priorities.

I see this happening all the time, yet find it funny that those big corps never wisen up and see the trend. Whatever they just bought ends up as garbage after a few years.
Perhaps that is the intention? they made the money, it can be left to rot.

 

[Ayah]

Well, the point of business is to make money.. not to contribute useful things.
The only thing you can do is to avoid the site altogether.

 

[Maximilian]

The standard cycle when a small journalism business is bought out by a big media conglomerate...the focus and corporate culture is centered on churning page views and driving ad revenue, quality of the articles and considerations for the reader fall way down the list of priorities.

Yeah, i mean the guy though, when i first went there ~2003 i remember there being a tom at toms hardware.

 

[Imouto]

Yeah, i mean the guy though, when i first went there ~2003 i remember there being a tom at toms hardware.

Like there was an Anand at Anandtech.

 

[Ayah]

Like there was an Anand at Anandtech.

but he's still there.

 

[Roland00Address]

Like there was an Anand at Anandtech.

Anand is still there but now he has colleagues / minions since the site has a lot more focuses than just motherboards, processors, and video cards.

 

[Idontcare]

Yeah, i mean the guy though, when i first went there ~2003 i remember there being a tom at toms hardware.

Tom Pabst was still there then, but he cashed his check and has long since moved on. (he was a medical doctor after all, before and during the time he had his hobby of hosting TomsHardwareGuide)

The site itself has been sold at least twice over now.

In a lot of ways it is the same sort of transition that private business undergoes when it does an IPO.

Like there was an Anand at Anandtech.

Anand is still very much firmly present and in control of Anandtech. He is not as present as say Kyle of [H] but he is very much one of the few remaining originals of the hardware-review era.

 

[Imouto]

Minions!

 

[schmuckley]

Tom's is tawded
I like to post there when I'm feeling ornery.
They banned me from Tom's for overclocking ..
arthurh has banned you (Section : all)

Reason of the sanction : This is the Overclocking section, not Extreme Overclocking. The info accepted is what the MFG lists in their products specs. Your OC'n is more than the regular users here at THGF do and they can not afford to waste CPUs.
still worth an LOL

 

[Markfw]

Tom's is tawded

Reason of the sanction : This is the Overclocking section, not Extreme Overclocking. The info accepted is what the MFG lists in their products specs. Your OC'n is more than the regular users here at THGF do and they can not afford to waste CPUs.
still worth an LOL

Wow. If that's a quote, you can be sure that will never happen here.

 

[Ajay]

Tom Pabst was still there then, but he cashed his check and has long since moved on. (he was a medical doctor after all, before and during the time he had his hobby of hosting TomsHardwareGuide)

The site itself has been sold at least twice over now.

In a lot of ways it is the same sort of transition that private business undergoes when it does an IPO.



Anand is still very much firmly present and in control of Anandtech. He is not as present as say Kyle of [H] but he is very much one of the few remaining originals of the hardware-review era.

Dang you have a good memory - that or some awesome google-fu skills