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Tom's Hardware Northwood Review

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THG has thier NW review up.
It's not linked on their main page as yet, so you'll have to follow the link above to get to it.

Easily the best review thus far IMHO, the gaming benchmarks were quite lacking and there was only one synthetic office application benchmark suite but besides that it was very good.

Still... I find myself wishing they'd done a few more benchmarks. Hopefully AT will fill in what's missing.
 
bwahahaha, havent had time to read it yet, but i love the picture of the guys in the suits 🙂 (i know it's old, but gets me every time)
 
One of Tom's better articles for sure. Just as I suspected.

Btw, what's up with Tom not including any overclocking results? That's supposed to be one of NW's high points.

EDIT: I liked this part of Tom's article too:

However, the manufacturer is working under considerable pressure to produce a 0.13 micron version of the Palomino core, which will probably make its debut as the "Thoroughbred" Core at this year's CeBIT.

CeBIT starts March 20th if you didn't already know. 🙂

EDIT#2: How can Tom come to this conclusion, how do they know?:

Some final thoughts on investment safety: in a few months, Intel will introduce the P4 with 133 MHz FSB. In addition, there will be 533 MHz Rambus memory. It is impossible to upgrade a current system that is built on the Pentium 4 Northwood with 133 MHz. Current motherboards only support 100 MHz FSB, even though the BIOS might indicate the contrary.

Btw, like I predicted before, PC1066 RDRAM is going to be expensive. Like so:

Furthermore, 533 MHz RDRAM modules are expected to be twice the price of conventional PC800 modules. In this case, it might well be better to wait a while, or to choose a P4-chipset with DDR SDRAM support in the first place.
 
this is my favorite quote:

"Still, only a very small minority of people is actually using content creation software, while almost every PC-owner is running office applications such as Word and Excel."

ummm..yeah. like it's real important how fast you can open a word or excel document. 😛


anyway, looking at the benchmarks it appears that the athlon is faster only at opening office documents and compiling linux. the speed of processing office apps is incredibly insignificant, and what percentage of users actually gives a crap about linux compiling?

if you were to own a northwood, you'd use other apps (like ejay or musicmatch for audio and ulead or videowave for video). that would only extend the speed difference between the northwood and athlon.

with pricing so similar, i don't see the point of buying an athlon over a northwood (in the high--end pc range). unless you are real concerned about how fast your powerpoint presentation opens. 😉
 
I think this nut runs the crappiest reviews...period!!

Though I already expected the 2.2ghz to take the crown, I always come off dazed and confused by this morons tests he uses...

1) he only runs quake 3 demo and no other games...very thorough...NOT!!!

2)Hey lets run 3dmark2000 not 2001

3)INteresting how in lame the 2.0gig p4 beats the athlon though in early test reported here today from another site the xp was still the fastest...that was only comparing to 2.0ghz northwood so I don't find it difficult that the 2.2 would eventually over take the xp...

4)Interesting how the 2.0ghz northwood is only 1.5percent faster then the 2.0ghz willamette at the mp3 lame decoder...

5)lightwave??? Why not bench real programs like 3dsmax...


 
Some final thoughts on investment safety: in a few months, Intel will introduce the P4 with 133 MHz FSB. In addition, there will be 533 MHz Rambus memory. It is impossible to upgrade a current system that is built on the Pentium 4 Northwood with 133 MHz. Current motherboards only support 100 MHz FSB, even though the BIOS might indicate the contrary.

I think thats very strange he would come to this assumption,when no official news has been really released on this issue. There have been claims that the Asus P4T-E will support the 533FSB and the Asus P4B266 can already run at 133FSB according to the xbit review. Maybe he means in general boards now will not officially support the 533FSB. Some can already overclock to those speeds. The only thing I can see stopping the compatibilty of the 533FSB northwood is a PCI divider. I mean if they could add support for northwoods through a BIOS update, couldn't they update this?
 
ummm..yeah. like it's real important how fast you can open a word or excel document.

have you tried copying a lot of web content to word? takes a long time😛
 


<< 3)INteresting how in lame the 2.0gig p4 beats the athlon though in early test reported here today from another site the xp was still the fastest...that was only comparing to 2.0ghz northwood so I don't find it difficult that the 2.2 would eventually over take the xp... >>



There are new builds and compiles of LAME released daily so there's no telling what build version THG and GamePC used.
 
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