Originally posted by: Intelia
Originally posted by: LT4CAMSS
And how are these circumstances any different? I understand the P4 is very complex. You're talking about how Intel is switching to shorter pipes and a less complicated architecture. Isn't that what AMD has consistently done in the past? I don't recall AMD ever passing 20-stages in their pipeline. If anyone can build a cpu to compete with Intel's next generation, it's AMD. They have the expertise and experience. I wouldn't call the Athlon 64 a lack of expertise. That design is just genius. And if they don't have the skills, how come they were the first to introduce 64-bit instructions in their cpus?
My point is not to argue who's better or worse. Like I said I like both companies. For your information, I am currently running a P3 Tualatin 1.4S w/ 512 L2 cache. Even after all this time...this thing still runs good. I also have a FX-55 San Diego sitting on my desk waiting to be paired w/ a 6800 Ultra and some ram so I can have some fun with this. My point is to express the fact that one should not rule either company out. AMD is not going to be knocked out by Intel, no matter how much experience they gained w/ the P4. Also, I don't want to burden Anandtech by ascribing every statement to them, but I'm pretty sure one of the writers alluded to AMD coming out with something similar to HyperThreading in the future.
Maybe you need to be a little like Anakin (even I'm falling prey to all the Star Wars allusions) and mess around with the dark side alil.
Man thats to bad that bad puppy is sitting on your desk Fx 57 in 2 weeks.
And again Iam stating my opion only on this subject based un research that I can neither prove or disprove but here's the facts as I understand them
Based of what a dothan clocked at 2.6 GHz which is faster and slower than Amd Fx 55 . Now this is very important to remeber thats a 30% overclock remeber 30%
Now yonah is 30% faster than dothan at the same clock. add SSE 3 and fusion engine and were talking really fast here . Now these numbers . I believe came from Xbit labs not sure and were they got them I don't have a clue.
Merom which is the moble chip is suppose to be 20% faster than yonah .
I don't remeber the name of the desktop cpu thats is a merom that opened up for more power and much much higher clocks I have read that it is 15% faster than merom
Now if these numbers are correct which i have not a clue as to weather they are or not but if they are thats 65% faster than dothan and dothan is on par with a AMD 64 at the same clock.
If this is correct information Intel people have a right to be excited hell everyone should be excited. As I said I don't know if this is correct information or not but if it is holy cows.
Now on to amd 64 invented by intel stolen by microsoft and given to AMD (talking about 64 bit thing here. Intel accused Amd of the theft but they share stuff anyway . FACT IS Intel didn't have the balls to say microsoft stoled it . But now that Apple is a player Intel might start slapping microsoft around. that be a good fight . Again I think every one is going to be a little surprized by the M2 and DDR2 as many now dothan really doesn't need a great deal more bandwith nor can it use much more it seems that AMD 64 has the same problem . This is as I read it. If you raise the bandwith of the Amd memory controller with out raising the cpu speed it would seem it offers little if any performance increase in fact as I understand it you can actually lose performance from runnin out of syn. Can anyone add to this again i believe I read this at Xbit labs not sure anyone know for sure. I am still not sure how much the ondie memory control adds to the overall performance of the AMD 64 Cpu . maybe the memory controller is getting to much credit here or maybe AMD 64 cpus are stilling some of the memory controllers credit .