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Tom is an A$$!

Check this out:

In this series of benches, Toms concludes, In Serious Sam 2, the GeForceFX 5800 Ultra is clearly superior to the Radeon 9700 PRO when the difference between the two cards is approx. 10-14 FPS.

When the Radeon 9700 PRO beats the FX by approx. 25 FPS in the first bench of this page, Tom concludes, Here, the Radeon 9700 PRO is a nose ahead, as was indicated in Sharkmark.

Urggg
 
Actually Tom is LAZY. Notice that he is NOT the author of the article.

Actually the article does state serious misgivings about the GF-Flop eXtreme but their bias is (more) evident (than usual).
 
Originally posted by: jeffrey
Remembers folks Toms Hardware was one of the first to display the Nvidia Certified Tester Logo!!
LOL!

You mean this? 🙂

Through its large cooler, the card weighs in at 610 grams/1.32 lbs - that's about three times the weight of a GeForce4 Ti4800 or a Radeon 9700 PRO (approx. 200 grams/0.49 lbs).
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: jeffrey
Remembers folks Toms Hardware was one of the first to display the Nvidia Certified Tester Logo!!
LOL!

You mean this? 🙂

Through its large cooler, the card weighs in at 610 grams/1.32 lbs - that's about three times the weight of a GeForce4 Ti4800 or a Radeon 9700 PRO (approx. 200 grams/0.49 lbs).

Haha, 1.32 POUNDS...Wow that's pretty heavy.
 
I am an Nvidia fan but I agree with GT, which is not something I do often.
Toms hardware's reviews are pathetic, glaring mistakes, odvious oversights, and a propensity to overstate things makes the time vested reading his articles = time WASTED

 
Look at the percentages involved.

The first one is a larger lead than the second.

He could have worded it better (the percentages are not THAT far apart), but it's not quite the glaring favoritism you would make it out to be.

In the end, it was probably done to avoid sounding repititous.

Viper GTS
 
OK, I agree Tom's reviews have growingly become sporadic and lack-luster, so my question is where would you all recommend one to go to review various Products?

not including our lovely domain - AnandTech - Please Moderator I beg forgiveness!

 
Originally posted by: Kinesis
OK, I agree Tom's reviews have growingly become sporadic and lack-luster, so my question is where would you all recommend one to go to review various Products?

not including our lovely domain - AnandTech - Please Moderator I beg forgiveness!

I also read: HardOCP, FiringSquad, and Beyond3D
 
Wow....actually that is REALLY biased


I never noticed that before

but I usually rely on Anandtech as my #1 resrouces with Hardocp, firingsquad, and others to round out the core


Thank god Anand got the review right. I'm not Nvidia hate/ATI Lover (I have a Geforce2 and a Raeon9000Pro 🙂 ) but I find it hard to praise the GFX especially considerings its size, price, and preformance when compared with ATI.

When I go looking for budget cards that will affect me as I choose between the G4 series and the Radeon9500 series
 
Guys, check this out

NVIDIA takes the crown! No question about it - the GeForceFX 5800 Ultra is faster than the competition from ATI's Radeon 9700 PRO in the majority of the benchmarks. However, its lead is only slight, especially compared to the distance that ATI put between its Radeon 9700 PRO and the Ti 4600. Still, when compared to its predecessor, the GeForce4 Ti, the FX represents a giant step forward.

The GeForceFX 5800 Ultra is irrefutably the fastest card in most of the tests - but at what price?


I'm replying to this in order of the bold statements


First statements - you have to be waring a Geforce FX hat to be saying that

Compared to its predecessor? I thought we were comparing it to the Radeon9700! In that case the R9700 smashes the 8500 more so!


The fastest card in most of the tests? Maybe with AF and AA turned off....but who plunk 400 dollars for a card and doesn't turn it on!
 
with that small difference (and for other test, radeon9700 pro is better) in "great" tom's review, a "cheap" price , "small" size and "light" weight made FX "worth" to buy.
I won't.
 
most of the time tom writes good articles, well he does, this article was the worst pos I have ever read on his site
 
I like most of Tom's articles... I don't think I've ever seen an article by Lars that I considered much beyond average and many distinctly below par.
Even the articles Tom himself writes arent nearly as good as they once were though.....
 
tomshardware = teh suck!

And it seems to me that they couldn't webdesign their way out of a wet paper-bag! Their website SUCK! Anandtech has nice and clean look (*brownnosing*).

I think Anand and Beyond3D have the best reviews (I'm talking about reviews in general, not just FX-reviews). Beyond3D is unmatched when it comes to 3D-experience IMO (several of their writers work for 3D-companies)
 
Originally posted by: Rand
I like most of Tom's articles... I don't think I've ever seen an article by Lars that I considered much beyond average and many distinctly below par.
Even the articles Tom himself writes arent nearly as good as they once were though.....

I have a slightly different viewpoint. I think the articles at Tom's have always been the same since they started many years ago (96?). It's just that every other site has improved itself since then except Toms Hardware. Well either improved or gone under. Toms Hardware is all about ad revenue. That's why he stopped catering to the few geeks and started preaching to the unwashed masses instead where the real money is. And to do that you need sensasionalism more than accuracy.
 
Tom's articles are OK, its just that they seem to over emphasize 'flair' instead of an objective writing style. But there is a reason behind this. Sensationalism sells. Its as simple as that.
 
just read it for what it's worth
it's just one person's perspective

that's why you don't rely soley on one article
he makes mistakes sometimes but he also does things that other reviewers never do and he is usually the first to really push things to their max or take certain perspectives

I like tomshardware
 
I agree, Tom's (p)reviews are biased and crap. Everyone else's preview were pretty much the same with nothing spectacular to say about the FX, but Tom's site claims it is now the NEW champ. Makes me laugh.
 
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