Tom Delay,hypocrite with no bounds......

Sysbuilder05

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld...0,5710023.story?coll=la-home-headlines

"There were also these similarities: Both stricken patients(Schiavo,DeLay) were severely brain-damaged. Both were incapable of surviving without medical assistance. Both were said to have expressed a desire to be spared from being kept alive by artificial means. And neither of them had a living will."

"Then, infections complicated the senior DeLay's fight for life. Finally, his organs began to fail. His family and physicians confronted the dreaded choice so many other Americans have faced: to make heroic efforts or to let the end come. Daddy did not want to be a vegetable," said Skogen, one of his daughters-in-law at the time. "There was no decision for the family to make. He made it for them. The preliminary decision to withhold dialysis and other treatments fell to Maxine along with Randall and her daughter Tena ? and "Tom went along." He raised no objection, said the congressman's mother."

And then the Delay lawsuit on behalf of his father:

"The case thrust Rep. DeLay into unfamiliar territory ? the front page of a civil complaint as a plaintiff. He is an outspoken defender of business against what he calls the crippling effects of "predatory, self-serving litigation."


Read the entire LA times story,its hypocrisy and its finest.......
 

sandorski

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Wow, what a tangled web. 4 weeks vs 15 years, beneficiary of Legal action vs trying to Legislate the same Actions out of existance, and Aceptance vs Outright Rejection. As if anyone needs anymore proof that DeLay is scum along comes this.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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What's particularly damning is the whole GOP has become culpable for DeLay's depravity. Their attempts to "protect" him from ethics charges was deplorable. "Party of Lincoln" my arse.
 

arsbanned

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It's his right to make the decision he did. What I do fault him for is pandering to the religious right wingers with the Schiavo case. I'm glad it backfired on him.
 

phillyTIM

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yes - tom delay - posterboy for everything that is wrong in the republican/conservative junta in today's America.

someone who can have laws changed when it comes time to save his #ss from jail, or can propogandize information to duress a vote.

tom delay, george w. bush's good buddy...someone in a powerful enough position to cause America's fall from grace in a single Regime (Bush's).
 

mugs

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"The only thing keeping her alive is the food and water we all need to survive. His father was on a ventilator and other machines to sustain him," said Dan Allen, DeLay's press aide.

We don't all need air to survive? :confused:
 

Rainsford

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I'm sure if Delay's father was on the news 24/7, Tommy might suddenly care about him too. Not saying Shiavo is a cheap publicity stunt for the GOP, but...
 

smc13

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I am not sure this is hypocracy. In the case of his father, his mom made the decision based on what she said his dad wanted. I assume he trusts his mom. It seems in the Schiavo case, he doesn't believe the husband and is thus acting in what he thinks is the best interest of Schiavo.

I still think he is wrong.

Btw, why are you guys just blaming Republicans? The Senate Democrats are as much to blame. They agreed to the voice vote and it appears that it was unanimous.
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: smc13
Btw, why are you guys just blaming Republicans? The Senate Democrats are as much to blame. They agreed to the voice vote and it appears that it was unanimous.
The Republicans were the prime movers behind this, but I do blame the Dems for being spineless as usual in going along with it.
 

0roo0roo

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yup u beat me to it:) might as well post the chicago trib too

THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE IN TEXAS
DeLay's family let father die in 1988
Accident left him badly brain-damaged

By Walter F. Roche Jr. and Sam Howe Verhovek, Tribune Newspapers: Los Angeles Times
Published March 27, 2005

CANYON LAKE, Texas -- A family tragedy unfolding in a Texas hospital during the fall of 1988 was a private ordeal--without judges, emergency sessions of Congress or the debate outside Terri Schiavo's Florida hospice.

The patient then was a 65-year-old drilling contractor, badly injured in an accident at his home. Among the family standing vigil at Brooke Army Medical Center was a grieving junior congressman: Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas).

More than 16 years ago, far from the political passions of the Schiavo controversy, the DeLay family endured its own wrenching end-of-life crisis. The man in a coma, kept alive by intravenous lines and a ventilator, was DeLay's father, Charles Ray DeLay.

The third-term congressman waited all but helpless for the verdict of doctors.

Today, House Majority Leader DeLay has teamed with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) to champion political intervention in the Schiavo case. And he is among the strongest advocates of keeping Schiavo connected to a feeding tube.

In 1988, DeLay quietly joined the sad family consensus to let his father die.

"There was no point to even really talking about it," Maxine DeLay, 81, the congressman's mother, recalled in an interview last week. "There was no way he [Charles] wanted to live like that. Tom knew, we all knew, his father wouldn't have wanted to live that way."

On Nov. 17, 1988, Charles DeLay and his brother, Jerry, had just finished work on a new back-yard tram at Charles' home, set on a limestone bluff above Turkey Cove.

The elevatorlike device was to carry passengers from the house down a 200-foot slope to the blue-green waters of Canyon Lake.

But on the tram's maiden run that day, with the DeLay brothers and their wives on board, something went wrong. Soon the tram was freewheeling, according to accident investigators.

Moments later, it jumped the track, and Charles DeLay was hurled headfirst into a tree.

Doctors advised that he would "basically be a vegetable," said the congressman's aunt, JoAnne DeLay.

When the man's kidneys failed, the DeLay family decided against connecting him to a dialysis machine.

"Extraordinary measures to prolong life were not initiated," said his medical report, citing "agreement with the family's wishes."

On Dec. 14, 1988, the senior DeLay "expired with his family in attendance."

"The situation faced by the congressman's family was entirely different than Terri Schiavo's," said a spokesman for DeLay, who declined requests for an interview.

"The only thing keeping her alive is the food and water we all need to survive. His father was on a ventilator and other machines to sustain him," said Dan Allen, DeLay's news aide.

There were also these similarities: Both patients were severely brain-damaged. Both were incapable of surviving without continuing medical assistance. Both were said to have expressed a desire to be spared life sustained by machine. And neither left a living will.

In 1990 the DeLay family filed a wrongful-death lawsuit against Lovejoy Inc., the Illinois-based maker of a coupling they said failed on the tram, and Midcap Bearing Corp., a distributor in San Antonio.

The case was resolved in 1993 with payment of an undisclosed sum of about $250,000, according to sources familiar with the settlement.



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so his mamma is a murderer..:p wee!!
 

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So, if I understand this thread correctly, Delay is a hypocrite because he has things in his personal life that conflict with what he does and says as a member of congress?

I am pretty damn sure that Delay is, as a member of congress, speaking for the people that he represents, with the voice that they expect.

The way some of you feel about Delay is rather humorous...

 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
So, if I understand this thread correctly, Delay is a hypocrite because he has things in his personal life that conflict with what he does and says as a member of congress?

I am pretty damn sure that Delay is, as a member of congress, speaking for the people that he represents, with the voice that they expect.

The way some of you feel about Delay is rather humorous...
You're sure about that, huh? I take it you haven't seen the polls?

 

Jhhnn

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Dems need to pick their fights, and this wasn't it. The chances of the court system upholding the repubs initiative were less than zero, anyway, as both sides knew full well. It's not about Schiavo, at all, it's about an attack on the independence of the judiciary. She's just a strawman, a lightning rod, a rallying point chosen on the basis of convenience, much as terrar was wrt the invasion of Iraq.

And, when Dem politicians see the opposition, the guys who define bipartisanship as date rape, hell bent on embarassing themselves, getting their noses rubbed in their own crap, do those Dems get in the way? Obviously not...
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
So, if I understand this thread correctly, Delay is a hypocrite because he has things in his personal life that conflict with what he does and says as a member of congress?

I am pretty damn sure that Delay is, as a member of congress, speaking for the people that he represents, with the voice that they expect.

The way some of you feel about Delay is rather humorous...

"No one is blinder, than he who will not see"

Somehow your post is an explanation of how DeLay is not being a hypocrite. At least that's how you "see" it.
 

conjur

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No wonder DeLay suddenly was brushed aside from the headlines. Rove is slipping in that he didn't catch this.
 

drewshin

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
So, if I understand this thread correctly, Delay is a hypocrite because he has things in his personal life that conflict with what he does and says as a member of congress?

I am pretty damn sure that Delay is, as a member of congress, speaking for the people that he represents, with the voice that they expect.

The way some of you feel about Delay is rather humorous...


LOL are you saying that tom delay listens to his constituents and doesn't have any personal agenda as a member of congress? he never voices his own opinions, he speaks with the one voice of his constituents, no matter how much he disagrees.

delay has called removing the feeding tube an "act of barbarism". it must pain him to say that about his family, because he can't control himself, he's talking with the voice of his people! of course, has he taken any polls on this...does he really know what his people are saying? does he take a 50% majority on issues, and uses that voice?
or maybe he uses the voice of where the majority of his money comes in from :laugh:
 

shira

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Originally posted by: smc13
Btw, why are you guys just blaming Republicans? The Senate Democrats are as much to blame. They agreed to the voice vote and it appears that it was unanimous.

My recollection is that the House vote among Dems was 51 to 43 against. I don't recall the Senate vote one way or the other.

I think only 4 or 5 Republican House members were opposed (with more than 200 for).

So I guess his means that although Dems are slimey, they're less slimey than Repubs.