"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

[SP33Demon]

"No no guys, i was being IRONIC with my stupidity" - Sp33demon

I'm not deserving of [size] tags anymore? Aww, shucks. /snicker

 

[Phokus]

I'm not deserving of [size] tags anymore? Aww, shucks. /snicker

No, because you've proven yourself to be the biggest intellectual midget here since spidey07

 

[SP33Demon]

Marshall Faulk: Patriots cheated the Rams out of a Super Bowl

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 30, 2013, 10:02 AM EST
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&#8220;I&#8217;ll never be over being cheated out of the Super Bowl,&#8221; Faulk told Tom Curran of CSNNE.com.

Faulk says the Rams installed new plays for the game against the Patriots, and that the Patriots seemed to be so perfectly prepared for them that Faulk believes they must have used espionage.

&#8220;I understand Bill is a great coach,&#8221; Faulk said. &#8220;But No. 13 [Kurt Warner] will tell you. Mike Martz will tell you. We had some plays in the red zone that we hadn&#8217;t ever ran. . . . And a couple of plays on third down that we walked through also . . . And they created a check for it. It&#8217;s just little things like that. It&#8217;s either the best coaching in the world when you come up with situations that you had never seen before. Or you&#8217;d seen it and knew what to do.&#8221;

Faulk seems to believe Belichick and the Patriots got off easy for Spygate.

&#8220;Am I bitter about how the league handled them taping people? If Bountygate was that bad and Sean got suspended for a whole year? If we want to talk about some unfair assessment of how we&#8217;re assessing things? Man. If you lost a game and your brother cheated you, you&#8217;ll remember that.&#8221;

And 11 years later, Faulk still remembers a Super Bowl that he believes the Patriots stole.

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[purbeast0]

Look at the pissed off Pats fans. Why aren't you using size tags like our resident 10 year old phokus?

lol pats fan ... sorry not a chance in hell. never have liked them never will. i bleed burgundy and gold and they have sucked for over 2 decades.

i know you are a butt hurt ravens fan though. you're a typical ravens fan crying about everything.

 

[SP33Demon]

lol pats fan ... sorry not a chance in hell. never have liked them never will. i bleed burgundy and gold and they have sucked for over 2 decades.

i know you are a butt hurt ravens fan though. you're a typical ravens fan crying about everything.

Prove it. You are a Pats fan. Don't lie. You wouldn't have read this many posts in a thread if you weren't.

 

[Phokus]

Prove it. You are a Pats fan. Don't lie. You wouldn't have read this many posts in a thread if you weren't.

You should post in the r/nfl subreddit with your dumb 'theories', you'll get torn apart bit by bit by fans of all stripes. With people who don't know shit about football, you are safe, with people who actually are paying attention, you look stupid.

 

[KeithTalent]

Prove it. You are a Pats fan. Don't lie. You wouldn't have read this many posts in a thread if you weren't.

He's a Redskins fan, even I know that and I'm a moron.

I'm sort of a Pats fan because I love Belichick and The Gonk, but I'm also sort of a Seahawks fan because I love Wilson, yet I have still been reading through this thread because it's completely absurd and I enjoy when people make complete idiots of themselves.

KT

 

[SP33Demon]

Ray Lewis says Patriots should have an asterisk next to Super Bowl win

&#8220;Every time we talk about the Patriots, you have the Patriots fans &#8230; you get all the talk about the jealousy of them and all that," Lewis said. "I won two Super Bowls, I&#8217;ve been Defensive Player of the Year, I&#8217;ve been MVP of the Super Bowl, I&#8217;ve went to New England and won so I&#8217;m not jealous of them at all."

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...ots-ravens-murder-deflate-gate-balls-asterisk

This is after Jon Harbaugh already said to put an asterisk by all Pats titles in 2012.
"What happens, even the thing in New England, no matter whether those things had any impact on whether they won their championships or not, they got asterisks now. It's been stained. -Jon Harbaugh
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...s-new-england-patriots-titles-stained-spygate

So now we're up to Jerry Rice, Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Brian Dawkins, Ray Lewis, Jon Harbaugh... and more coming out of the woodwork every day claiming the Pats cheated to win their titles.

 

[SP33Demon]

You should post in the r/nfl subreddit with your dumb 'theories', you'll get torn apart bit by bit by fans of all stripes. With people who don't know shit about football, you are safe, with people who actually are paying attention, you look stupid.

So no comment on Marshall Faulk? How did the Pats know how to defend plays that the Rams never ran in the entire season? Once a cheater, always a cheater. Your mom should have taught you that.

 

[BeeBoop]

If you have to resort to using curse words, "fucking" in multiple posts, along with large kiddy letters, you are the very least upset that someone is calling your favorite team a bunch of cheaters. I'd be upset too if my team was called cheaters. Too bad it's not my team. heh

SEA has respect
Pats are cheaters

SEA isn't even my team and I respect them. Pats are just known cheaters. See the difference?

 

[dawheat]

You idiots do know that's scripted, right? And did you completely guys completely miss his mark about not being able to tell the difference at 32 seconds in? Holy shit you guys are gullible.

"Oh yeah, that's exactly 12.3 PSI, *FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART*"

I haven't seen/read anything that it was scripted. His quote at 32 seconds was that in the middle of a game, he won't notice the difference. But without the game pressure, it looked pretty clear that a top tier QB who's probably thrown tens of thousands of passes, can tell the difference.

Same thing - I'd totally believe it if Roger Federer picked up a tennis ball that was 15% underinflated and could tell the difference.

If you do find any comment that it was scripted, feel free to post.

 

[Phokus]

So no comment on Marshall Faulk? How did the Pats know how to defend plays that the Rams never ran in the entire season? Once a cheater, always a cheater. Your mom should have taught you that.

If you believe marshall faulk, then you believe the completely debunked allegation that the patriots filmed the Ram's practices. You are repeating comments from players that are jealous of the Patriots success and will say anything without any factual basis to back them up. You are a complete moron.

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/2007_New...ing_controversy#/The_Boston_Herald_apologizes

The Boston Herald apologizes
In their May 14, 2008, issue the Boston Herald published an apology to the Patriots and their fans for publishing the February 2, 2008, story that cited an unnamed source in alleging the Patriots had taped the Rams' walkthrough prior to Super Bowl XXXVI.[12] The newspaper said that while they believed their source to be credible, they never viewed a videotape of the walkthrough, or talked to anyone that had. Thus, they wrote, they should not have published the story, which they deemed to be false, "in the absence of firmer verification."[12] The next day, Boston Herald Editor-in-Chief Kevin Convey took full responsibility for the publication of the story, while standing behind the work of Tomase and the Herald's sports department.[63]

In an interview with CNBC the same day, Kraft said he was bothered that there would still be people throughout the country who would not see the retraction, and that he felt vindicated after the "damaging" story "put a cloud over [the team] for three-and-a-half months."[64] Kraft added that he believed there was no other team in sports history who had gone through such scrutiny as the Patriots did following the initial incident in September 2007, and that the Patriots had done a full audit of their organizational procedures, with lawyers now helping the team administer the NFL rulebook, which Kraft realized "was beyond the scope of a coaching staff, or personnel people, to administe[r] properly."[64]

Robert Kraft's son, Patriots president Jonathan Kraft, spoke to WEEI the next day about the apology, which he appreciated, but believed was "delayed in coming."[65] He said that the Herald called the team an hour before the paper went to press, and that despite the Patriots telling the Herald "adamantly, in the strongest terms possible, both through comments from [Belichick] and [the Patriots]' legal team, that it was not appropriate to run that story," the Herald published the article the next day.[65] In the ensuing three months, per Kraft, it was understood throughout the country that the Patriots had taped the walkthrough as a result of the article, and according to the Patriots public relations department, another 300,000 other newspaper articles referencing the Herald's report; Kraft said he did not know how the team could reach that group to take back that belief.[65] In the wake of the incident, Kraft also said the Patriots' lawyers and administrators now go over every rule change and clarification with the coaching staff and ask the staff to come to them first on any rule interpretation questions.[65] Kraft dismissed the allegations of the Patriots tampering with sideline communication systems or playclocks, as those were both operated by league, not team, officials.[65] Finally, Kraft said the Patriots looked to move on from the false report and to re-establish their prior relationship with the Herald.[65]

Tomase explained the lead-up to the publishing of the false report in the Boston Herald's May 16, 2008 edition.[66] Tomase said that he first heard of the rumor late in the 2006 season, but dismissed it until the rumor resurfaced from a "much stronger source" after the September 2007 incident.[66] Two days before the Super Bowl, once The New York Times and ESPN published stories about Matt Walsh, Toamse said Walsh's name "set off alarms," as "many believed he had filmed the walkthrough."[66] Tomase added that despite warnings from the Patriots and other reporters, he was "caught up in the moment" and "hadn't stepped back to consider the ramifications."[66] While the report cited one unnamed source, Tomase said that while he had multiple sources for the story, he relied on one more than any other, and refused to name that source.[66] Finally, Tomase believed that while he never felt he was being lied to by his source, he should not have written the story in the absence of seeing the tape or getting comments from members of the organization.[66]

 

[Anubis]

Drew Brees said it wasn't scripted. He just totally owned you Pat fans.

not exactly
he said you could tell just sitting there, but in the course of the game you would not be able to tell

 

[Anubis]

Ray Lewis says Patriots should have an asterisk next to Super Bowl win

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...ots-ravens-murder-deflate-gate-balls-asterisk

This is after Jon Harbaugh already said to put an asterisk by all Pats titles in 2012.
"What happens, even the thing in New England, no matter whether those things had any impact on whether they won their championships or not, they got asterisks now. It's been stained. -Jon Harbaugh
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...s-new-england-patriots-titles-stained-spygate

So now we're up to Jerry Rice, Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Brian Dawkins, Ray Lewis, Jon Harbaugh... and more coming out of the woodwork every day claiming the Pats cheated to win their titles.

can we asterisk Ray for helping someone get away with murder?

 

[KeithTalent]

can we asterisk Ray for helping someone get away with murder?

Yes we can. Fuck that guy.

KT

 

[SP33Demon]

If you believe marshall faulk, then you believe the completely debunked allegation that the patriots filmed the Ram's practices. You are repeating comments from players that are jealous of the Patriots success and will say anything without any factual basis to back them up. You are a complete moron.

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/2007_New...ing_controversy#/The_Boston_Herald_apologizes

It claims an "apology" but then ends with "Finally, Tomase believed that while he never felt he was being lied to by his source, he should not have written the story in the absence of seeing the tape or getting comments from members of the organization." Somehow you claim this means it was "completely debunked", while Tomase still says he thinks the main source was credible and didn't lie. Additionally, they had multiple sources, not just one.

The 2008 Robert Kraft interview is even more hilarious, this is same idiot who claims Putin stole his SB ring. That's like interviewing the wolf about who robbed the hen house. Of course they didn't want it published.

Marshall Faulk is an NFL legend, as are Kurt Warner and Jerry Rice and Don Shula and even Ray Lewis. If they say the Pats are cheaters, then I agree with them. Also, why would Marshall Faulk lie this many years later? What does he have to gain?

Faulk says the Rams installed new plays for the game against the Patriots, and that the Patriots seemed to be so perfectly prepared for them that Faulk believes they must have used espionage.

&#8220;I understand Bill is a great coach,&#8221; Faulk said. &#8220;But No. 13 [Kurt Warner] will tell you. Mike Martz will tell you. We had some plays in the red zone that we hadn&#8217;t ever ran. . . . And a couple of plays on third down that we walked through also . . . And they created a check for it. It&#8217;s just little things like that. It&#8217;s either the best coaching in the world when you come up with situations that you had never seen before. Or you&#8217;d seen it and knew what to do.&#8221;

How could the Pats have "perfectly prepared" for plays that the Rams had never run? This was also reported by the Eagles after SB XXXIX. Are all of these guys sore losers? I don't think so. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

 

[zinfamous]

He JUST SAID in the video he couldn't tell the difference. Again, that segment where he was comparing balls was SCRIPTED.

He said that he couldn't tell during the game, from snap to snap, running through your plays.

He also said that just sitting there, given a choice of several balls, without thinking about a game, he could tell instantly.

which he did.

Maybe you should rewatch?

either way--you vs Sp33demon is effing hilarious.

 

[zinfamous]

can we asterisk Ray for helping someone get away with murder?

2nd


er 3rded.

 

[zinfamous]

Prove it. You are a Pats fan. Don't lie. You wouldn't have read this many posts in a thread if you weren't.

purebeast is one of the 3-5 Redskins fans on this forum.

I should know, because we stick together (except for those times when eits says ridiculous dumb shit)

 

[SP33Demon]

Randall Cunningham says Patriots cheated to break his record

Randall Cunningham has more than enough reason to pay attention to the various scandals involving the New England Patriots and the NFL rule book.

Cunningham &#8212; the former Eagles, Minnesota Vikings, Dallas Cowboys and Baltimore Ravens quarterback &#8212; was at the helm of the 1998 Vikings offense that took the league by storm, led by a passing attack that included Hall of Famer Cris Carter, Randy Moss and Jake Reed at wide receiver.

The Vikings set the record for most points scored in a season &#8212; a mark that stood until 2007, when the Patriots, led by quarterback Tom Brady and Moss, broke the Vikings' record with 589 points. That record is clouded by the SpyGate scandal, and that doesn't sit will with Cunningham.

"If you look back to when they were scouting and all that stuff, that was back when I was with the Minnesota Vikings and we held the record for most points scored in the history of the league, 556 points," Cunningham said on ESPN Radio's His and Hers this week. "They broke our record. Now they've got that. There's kind of an uneasy feeling for me, knowing that someone had to manipulate or cheat or do something like that."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/01/patriots_cheating_scandal_makes_randall_cunningham.html

Most points scored in 2007 for the Pats. Wait, wasn't that the year when teams got to bring their own footballs to the game? Uhhh.

 

[Phokus]

It claims an "apology" but then ends with "Finally, Tomase believed that while he never felt he was being lied to by his source, he should not have written the story in the absence of seeing the tape or getting comments from members of the organization." Somehow you claim this means it was "completely debunked", while Tomase still says he thinks the main source was credible and didn't lie. Additionally, they had multiple sources, not just one.

The 2008 Robert Kraft interview is even more hilarious, this is same idiot who claims Putin stole his SB ring. That's like interviewing the wolf about who robbed the hen house. Of course they didn't want it published.

Marshall Faulk is an NFL legend, as are Kurt Warner and Jerry Rice and Don Shula and even Ray Lewis. If they say the Pats are cheaters, then I agree with them. Also, why would Marshall Faulk lie this many years later? What does he have to gain?


How could the Pats have "perfectly prepared" for plays that the Rams had never run? This was also reported by the Eagles after SB XXXIX. Are all of these guys sore losers? I don't think so. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

You do realize that the reason why Tomase had to backtrack was because the former video guy for the pats who spilled the beans to the world denied that the pats videotaped practices and there was never any proof, right? You can't get a better primary source than that. Oh yeah, i'm sure Don Shula, Jerry Rice, and the Rams would have intimate knoweldge about 'cheating' that goes on with the patriots. Again, you are grasping at straws from France.

 

[Ban Bot]

purebeast is one of the 3-5 Redskins fans on this forum.

On that tangent, I hope RGIII pays the $300 and attends the RW young QB camp and learns to slide. I want to like RGIII but it seems when the press isn't manufacturing stories RGIII is shooting himself in the foot. I still feel that Irvin's push in the wild card game contributed to RGIII's injury getting worse which is very unfortunate. I think the Redskins & Cowboys were screwed by the 30 other owners and NFLPA during the lockout and while Danny is his own worse nightmare DC fans are really loyal. RGIII cost them an arm&leg in terms of draft picks so I hope things really turn around. Sadly, while I think there could be a glimmer of hope for RGIII to bounce back under the right coach I absolutely do not believe that coach is Jay Gruden.

Best of luck to you guys. It is easy to root for you guys as fans because you are some of the best posters here. It doesn't hurt that the great Joe Gibbs left a legacy of classy success that is easy to appreciate. Those 80s and early 90s Washington teams were fantastic and often underappreciated. The Wilson/Lynch and Doug Williams/Riggins synergies don't hurt either.

 

[Ban Bot]

You do realize that the reason why Tomase had to backtrack was because the former video guy for the pats who spilled the beans to the world denied that the pats videotaped practices and there was never any proof, right?

Did Tomase's source recant, too? Story doesn't say so and says Tomase still stood by his source.

How convenient all those tapes were destroyed by the NFL...

 

[Phokus]

Did Tomase's source recant, too? Story doesn't say so and says Tomase still stood by his source.

How convenient all those tapes were destroyed by the NFL...

Jesus, read the article:

The NFL reached a deal with Walsh on April 23, 2008 and arranged a meeting between Goodell and Walsh.[9] Prior to the meeting, Walsh sent eight videotapes, containing opponents' coaches' signals from the 2000 through 2002 seasons, in accordance with the agreement.[10] Goodell and Walsh met on May 13, 2008, at which time Walsh told Goodell he and other Patriots employees were present at the Rams' walkthrough to set up video equipment for the game but that there was no tape of the walkthrough made; as a result, Goodell told the media no additional penalties would be brought against the Patriots.[11] Less than 24 hours later, the Herald issued an apology for the article about the alleged walkthrough tape.[12]

BTW, reporters were allowed to see the tapes.

 

[emperus]

Randall Cunningham says Patriots cheated to break his record


http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/01/patriots_cheating_scandal_makes_randall_cunningham.html

Most points scored in 2007 for the Pats. Wait, wasn't that the year when teams got to bring their own footballs to the game? Uhhh.

It's clear that you don't watch any football. Why do you keep commenting and making yourself look silly. I would tell you to look up the roster for that team, but you probably know any of the players.

But, that is the first year that Brady had 2 very talented receivers. (Moss and Welker).

This was also the first year I realized how nasty BRady was. Compared to other elite quarterbacks in history, Brady never had top flight talent at Receiver. But when he finally did get one (Moss), he broke all sorts of records.